Javier Alexandre Hierro Pardos

Dir. Communication and Projects, REAIR - Reaching Horizons

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What about the Spanish Revolution?

eople have become increasingly frustrated by the many problems in Spain: Over 20% unemployment rate and over 30% youth unemployment rate, incompetent politicians unable to deal with the effects of the crisis, extremely high housing prices both for rental and purchase, a mortgage system that ties mortgage holders for life to the bank if the real estate is sold for under the loan amount, and a general discontent with the status of the political landscape (especially the effective two-party system of the center-right People's Party and the center-left Spanish Socialist Workers' Party).

  • May 26 2011: Hi Javier,

    I'm really impressed by what's happening in Spain and as an half spanish guy really proud too :)

    I've been thinking in how to change this frustrating system for 4 years now. I've read a lot even to know if it wasn't more dangerous to give the power to people by using real representative democracy.

    And finally, my conclusion is the same as Socrates :
    if the knowlegde and the wisdom of the people is sufficient, real democracy is possible and more or equally efficient as elitists systems like oligarchy, aristocracy or others.

    May be I'm wrong but I think Spanish people are looking for a solution but they are frustrated because they don't see a clear.solution.
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      May 26 2011: Thanks David,

      The point is that everything what happens here and is related to politicians is just a joke. Their benefits are unfair and the justice demonstrate that most of them are under corruption. So why they are not in jail? Why they still free and getting paid? Our country is a shame in these terms.

      Thanks a lot!
      • May 26 2011: I'm really sorry to say that, but it's the same everywhere in the rich countries.
        I live in France and we have two big partys, PS and UMP.
        I've been living in London last year and it's also the same, 2 big partys: Tories and Labour.
        Even their symbolic colours are the same (Red, Blue) and if you are lucky there's a third one in Orange :)

        Do you think this political party system is define somewhere ?
        Try to find a constitution talking about it.

        So, as usual the Ego inside Man resulted in creating an elite (after they decided to use this system) and when you have an elite you have corruption.
        Few people are easier to corrupt than many.

        But are democracia ya trying to find a kind of solution ?
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    May 27 2011: Thanks for all your answers.

    I think even most of rich countries have this kind of problems with their corrupt politicians this is not a reason to give up. The young people will protest against this fascist politicians and their non logic privileges.

    They are our employers, not our bosses.
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    May 26 2011: The problems you are facing are the problems of the entire developed world.

    Recent changes in technology and globalization coupled with the indoctrination of the masses that laissez-fair capitalism is the way to go has enabled a concentration of wealth and power. Until we return to a more equitable system of taxation the trend will continue.
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    May 26 2011: Even all you said is true I don't think that politicians must have the kind of economical and social privileges the actually have in Spain. This is something impossible to understand for anyone. Their salaries and conditions are not reasonable in any sense. I think we should change this at least...

    Democracia Real Ya is an independent movement supported by most of spanish young people and that because they don't belong to any establishment. In my opinion the problems are their structures... but anyways... Most of us want to normalize the politicians privileges.
    • May 26 2011: I agree with you on the injustice of all these privileges.

      The problem is :
      if you do that, they are going to be more corruptable by the rest of the elite (financial elite in particular).

      What can you do to stop that ?
      Take also the privileges of the others ? Difficult without violence.

      I heard that in Brasil Lula has put all financial transactions in control by a software.
      Companies used to hide wealth by not paying tax and putting a lot in offshore banks.
      With this system it was difficult to hide transactions to Bermudes, Caiman, Switzerland or others.

      In my point of vue, it' a great way to keep wealth in your country.
      More you have, more you can share.

      I've read that Switzerland has 25% of all the World savings.

      In the other hand, if you don't do it everywhere your companies are going to be less competitive compare to others.

      It has to be a global change.

      What do you think ?