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chad manderscheid

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Can we now ban brutal and abusive porn that demeans women by way of a class action suit to file for damages to women and society in general

Since virtually everyone agrees with Child porn and snuff films being illegal and these are fairly successfully being interdicted then why shouldn't the A.C.L.U. and the religious right now work together, with support from the majority of the rest of us, to stop the victimization of "18" year old women and the generation of young men who are addicted to ever grosser fixes of porn on the internet. If we can justify requiring healthy foods for the body and safer vehicles on the roads and fairer practices from banks why not stop the exploitation of our youth for profit.Yes many sites require that the person entering a site declare that they are 18. So? Any 16 yr old who is so honest that that protects them probably does not need protection. I do not know of an age, in any case, at which accustoming oneself to watching gang bangs is guaranteed to be harmless, do you? We make it difficult for minors to buy cigarettes because they are addicting and bad for your health and put strong warnings on the packages for the adults. Is there really any question that porn tends to addict and that porn that exploits women and sends the justifying message to rapists that all women really like it rough and no means yes, as the Ivy League frat boys recently chanted, is damaging to us all? I hope that brain science and psychology have advanced far enough to be able to give convincing evidence in court and start curbing the casual acceptance of treating women as objects with no right to object to anything.


Closing Statement from chad manderscheid

This has been a challenging exercise and I must admit I have apparently failed to convey my proposal to discourage abusive porn clearly enough. For some any form of porn is degrading and trying to clearly delineate boundaries rapidly becomes a sticky tar pit I get the impression that while many people have an opinion few have thought about the many facets of the topic in depth. Perhaps this is partly because porn as free speech is both controversial and repulsive to many of us. This makes it unusually difficult to convey more than small bits of the whole elephant-like concept. I had hoped to discuss dimensions that involve much more than cultural-religious mores, which I would as soon avoid as they are are basically opinion based and do not tend to lead to any agreement. Recent research for instance into advertising psychology or the self programing plasticity of the brain or observable human behaviors would have been enough to make for an interesting discussion. My reasoning was not that degrading porn absolutely tends to create more dangerous deviants, although this may be somewhat true, my point is that I believe it has already negatively affected the general attitudes of society to women and human relations in general and that this trend is not healthy. Racism and gender bigotry and hate speech are discouraged at least in public. Why is it so difficult to see that dehumanizing porn belongs in the same category of harmful expression. Myrthe Hilkens, a Dutch author, recently published "McSex" about the pornification of society. She makes a cogent case but most people can't read Dutch. I am reminded of the reaction when the Freud first published his theory that most neuroses in women were caused by sexual abuse when they were very young. The firestorm of official Victorian denial caused him to back down and restate his thesis to say that women imagined that they had been abused. Now we seem to admit that abuse is rampant but our attitude is "So What"

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    May 17 2011: Your intention is good but eventually each person must come to their own path of what is mindful free speech and what is right action in ones work and personal life. It is a personal choice to be of good character not a right or a law. One must learn to grow from within not just obey laws. It must be that way or society will never truly change - you will only be managing what you cannot control.
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      May 18 2011: Brandt I admire your ethics and agree that in the end it must be so. I am not trying to control the morals of individuals but can we not at least avoid unnecessary negative influences? We now limit advertising for alcohol and cigarettes and discourage movies which glorify hard drug use. Is this so different? We try hard to stop bullying in school. Young girls now often feel great pressure to perform acts that their grandmothers never heard of. Do you really believe that the internet is not a major source of this?
      I truly believe that the parameters of human behaviors are hard wired in our beings. Read Desmond Morris's comments on the ten stages of human bonding common to 60 different human cultures. He supports the obvious fact that a "one night stand" (VERY appropriate name) is the surest way to damage the chances of a long and stable relationship. I have literally searched for 37 years for ONE case where a successful partnership began with a roll in the hay on the first date. "Porn" is the sugar frosted empty calories that substitutes for real human interaction.Addictive but no lasting nutrition. Increasingly better research supports that the plasticity of our brains allows gradual remodeling with strong effects. And the fact that the two professions that pay the most attention to advances in psychology are Advertising and Politics underscores this fact. No one likes to discuss this topic in depth, it is uncomfortable and even claiming enough experience to know something about it admits that one has gone wading and felt the undertow.

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