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Extinction of human being in past history of earth and Evolution theory

according to Koran and Hadith the current generation of human has history of maximum 7000 years . some of them are famous and are mentioned in Koran like Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad (peace on them) and the oldest human of current generation is Adam mentioned living near 6500 to max. 7000 years ago and detailed history of his life by near 1000 years old at death is said.

Imam Sadiq (peace ion him) said that all current humans are children of Adam and Eve and before current generation 7 generation of humans lived on earth and all extincted before Adam and Eve.

1- does Evolution theory consider any possible extinction of human during history of earth?
if no why?

2- if human had any Extinction during history of earth then can this solve the conflict of Evolution theory and believing God?

3- why some Evolution scientists have problem with God?

4- is it possible in future (for example 500 years later) that scientists understand that Evolution theory has no conflict with believing God?

5- is it possible they understand that God selected the Evolution among other possible ways of creation for creating spices?

6- can Extinction be considered as a hypothesis in the Evolution theory?

(Imam Sadiq was teacher of many big scientists of world and with his father established the first large university of history and thousands of scientists from all over the world came to his classes and had great academic contributions.

the number if scientists in his classes was so much that some people repeated his speech loud in distances to all hear.
Imam Sadiq learned 1000 page of chemistry on buckskin to Geber and Geber made them 500 book about Chemistry that one of them is method purifying Gold.
http://goo.gl/g96dg

He was a polymath: an astronomer, alchemist, Imam, Islamic scholar, Islamic theologian, writer, philosopher, physician, physicist and scientist. He was also the teacher of the famous chemist Geber
http://goo.gl/P0JMq
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  • May 10 2011: is it possible they understand that God selected the Evolution among other possible ways of creation for creating species?

    I'll tell you S.R., I usually like to say that there is no conflict, but usually because religious people need to hear that to at least consider the reality of the situation.
    I'll save that here, it is clear that evolution and the monotheistic religions are surely in conflict with one another, your religion asserts the idea that man is some how special. This by any scientific standard is of course not true whether you consider the sheer vastness of the universe in cosmology or the fact that we can genetically engineer bacteria to produce human insulin.

    Here is the real conflict for most scientists and religion ( at least the traditional religions with personal god type myths). When you are a scientist you are constantly asking questions and questioning authority. The very motto of the Royal Society was " Take nobody's word for it".
    In fact on page 320 of Isaac Newton's "The Principia:Mathematical Principals Of Natural Philosophy" , On the fist page of book three he puts forth 4 Rules for reasoning.
    Rule 1 states
    "We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearance"
    The majority of scientists and especially the good ones tend to be atheistic because they are looking at the evidence objectively.
    If a scientist wrote in a publication that let's say String Theory was fact because he "felt" it, that HE knew it because a magic man speaks to him. That this Magic man is behind all things.
    What do you think the readers of the article would think?
    It is a matter of mindset, some people are easier to believe in things, especially if they are raised that way. And others insistently ask questions. It is clear that the scientist absolutely MUST be the latter.
    • Jun 4 2011: Dear Deaven Morris,
      "your religion asserts the idea that man is some how special"
      yes and it is Wisdom: (only wise accept advice)
      http://www.ted.com/conversations/2353/what_is_wisdom_and_can_wisdom.html

      "This by any scientific standard is of course not true"
      is by any scientific standard false?
      science is not complete and is developing.

      "Here is the real conflict for most scientists and religion ( at least the traditional religions with personal god type myths)"
      by religion I mean Islam. other religions are human made or deviated.

      "" Take nobody's word for it". "
      yes this is needed for science. agree.

      "4 Rules for reasoning."
      agree. but only for science. human uses science for technology and welfare. but still there is after death risk. also human is not animal and has wisdom. so better to separate science and believes until they have no proven conflict. if a religion has conflict with proven science that religion is not real religion. there are many other religions and a real human should search for truth and true religion.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religions_and_spiritual_traditions
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager

      "What do you think the readers of the article would think?"
      I think he is not a scientist.

      "It is a matter of mindset, some people are easier to believe in things, especially if they are raised that way. And others insistently ask questions. It is clear that the scientist absolutely MUST be the latter."
      yes but none of them prove there is no creator and no Hell. even people made fictions and lies about real God in during history.

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