- AbdelRahman Siddig
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The real evolution happened to our awareness not our bodies
The ability to create modern tools existed since we exist
What real evolved over time is our awareness of the
Law of physics and chemistry which was installed and configured for us before we arrive and ready to be discovered
why we are able to make modern tools only now?
what was missing before
The raw materials
or the deep relations between these materials (physics &chemistry)
or our awareness of that fact this materials are reshapable into different form of tools which helps us to save our time and efforts
but claiming man was ape this just pure theory which will never be proven
because man was created by GOD
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Davie Webb
why is it not in the hands of the religious groups to prove god to us?
atleast science attempts to discover and prove where we came from. you ignore science with your narrow mind, then complain about the lack of evidence? you need to think questions through before you post them.
AbdelRahman Siddig
for the same reason you reject to believe in GOD and claimed there is no evidence while the evidences are over over welcoming but if you choose to close your eyes you can always argue there is no light
so why you want me to accept man was ape before you prove it first
the burden of proof is on the affirmative
People used to believe GOD created man now you came with contradictory idea
so burden of proof is on the NEW affirmative
jonathan lynch
To break it down for you, you are my ape. There is an evolution and it does not contradict creation or God. Yet, if you cannot see this simple fact you are inherently an ape as compared to the mind which does. Thus, you are both idiots.
Back to topic, you (Abdelrahman) asked why we are able to make modern tools only now?
Can you (both Davie and Abdelrahman) create glass, wine/beer, art, a hiking stick, or "anything"?
Do you think everyone creates? I believe there are those with the spark to learn and discover; while, others are programed to follow. There is also a healthy mix of programing. Yet, most don't apply an open mind to their own flaws and lack of knowledge. This is a critical notion/talent!
Therefore, the proof of God is belief in God. A being known as God is all it needs to be. (you can speculate on his or her involvement in the world.) The proof of evolution is the child in a parents arms. If you don't get it you won't. As such, you are the ape to my human. The idiot is the missing link between pond scum and genius!
Thank you for reading and I hope you understood; moreover, with fond respect,
Jonathan
AbdelRahman Siddig
you are so arrogant and did not
added any vlaue to the topic expect of being proud of your self and disregarding other
wish you can evolve from within to next level and become a real human
Thomas Pisarchick 10+
This answer is inevitably that faith is required, that's what makes it spiritual. Or the "look around all this sophisticated life living in harmony" line.
AbdelRahman Siddig
jonathan lynch
@Kris Ho:
I am unsure if the below is to include me. “think both of you have your 'proof'…” I am still
waiting for a clear explanation of the argument. I do not deny God or science. Therefore, the explanation of the other peoples' argument is pending.
In the end, I love your post; however, prove to me it was not God! :)
I really wanted the debate to be about the evolution of the mind to the current level whereas, other great apes apply tool use skills. Thus, we are not confined to on species when we discuss “modern” things/tools. Moreover, it does not mean all birds are blue jays.
So, what makes the blue jay different from other birds… and all birds who think they are blue jays may not in fact be blue jays…. Thank you birds big and small! PS:To clarify I am not sure if I am a blue jay or just a bird. Yet, I know there is a difference.
kris ho
Perhaps this is proof that we are only evolving in our minds, not yet evolved, if grown men can argue the toss with 'prove it, no you prove it' and then go lah lah lah, I'm not listening' like a 5 year old when the other says somthing the other finds distasteful.
Once upon a time, perhaps when we were furrier and lived in caves, if a man clipped to stones together and made fire, the fire was proof of his ability and a technological breakthrough- yet if we follow the authors argument, it would be man makes fire, and his friend says that was all god's work- prove to me you had a hand in making it.
I thought the idea of conversations, adn in deed of TED were to bring together brilliant minds from all around the world- a unification of ideas- not me vs you slamming of others.
Thomas Pisarchick 10+