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How does gender affect formulation of opinion based on perception?

I'd like to kick-start this debate by asking for each person responding, to please describe their personal opinion of their ideal; a) Husband/boyfriend b) Wife/girlfriend.

I'm adding onto this now...

How different do you perceive males and females to be?

Are these differences something that can be phased out through gender neutralizing environments or are they engrained in our nature as a permanent fixture?

If there's a possibility of phasing out the differences would you choose to?
If there's not how do we address our Politically Correct world where we avoid any recognition of differences between genders?

The focus here is on the mental, emotional, and developmental differences, not so much the physical.

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Overall it seems as though we are able to accept and recognize that there are differences between males and females. What we are not ready to accept and recognize is that there are differences in the way we learn that should be addressed in early childhood development.

This doesn't mean the end result has to change as far as career capabilities. It means that we need to cater to these developmental differences and teach our boys the way they learn best and teach our girls the way they learn best in order for them to have the opportunity to achieve their desired goals in life.

Right now our education system is failing both genders equally and that is unfortunate. We can say that it's because we don't spend enough money on schooling, or we don't address the specific needs of each individual child. But I think that a reasonable attempt at adapting a school curriculum which incorporates certain gender differences into the lesson plan has proven to be effective and ought to be adopted by more schools and made available to anyone who thinks that their child would benefit from it.

I DO NOT mean that girls should be taught Home Ec. and boys should be taught Shop Class. I'm implying that girls and boys learn subjects such as math and science easier in 2 very different ways. Why not structure a class that is designed to teach girls/boys math the way their brains understand it best? It's not harmful for our society to look at what science can teach us about the brain and use that information in the most effective way possible.

I'd like to take this time to advocate to any parent out there reading this to do some research and decide for yourself if gender specific lesson plans could be a benefit for your child.

Start with Leonard Sax's book "Why Gender Matters" and see if you find yourself agreeing with the statements and research he's done over the past 25 years.

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  • Apr 14 2014: My opinion about the perfect wife would be for her to be a loving and positively opinionated lady. That she expresses that love and opinion every opportunity of the day and that we more and more grow together, while having basically the same values and beliefs.

    Male and female are just as different on the physical level, every cell being different, as they are on the mental or spiritual level. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with being different! In fact the difference helps to attract one to the other. Some call the difference 'opposites' but that word I do not like in a relationship.

    The most important aspect of being husband and wife, i think, is to see the union as more important than each part. There is no machine, or company, or any kind of unit where any part of that unit is more important than the unit.

    Both have a will and an understanding, but men primarily use their understanding while women primarily use their will to interact with life.
    This expresses the origin of masculine and feminine.
    http://webhome.idirect.com/~abraam/studies/Origin_of_Masc-Fem.pdf
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      Apr 14 2014: Adriaan,
      Could you please explain how you perceive "men primarily use their understanding while women primarily use their will to interact with life."?

      Is this idea simply your religious teaching? Can you provide a personal example, or substantiated information other than your religious teachings, which might support this idea?
      • Apr 15 2014: Hi Colleen,

        Would you accept, or even expect, scientifically substantiated information regarding our spiritual side?

        The closest science comes is acknowledging the two sides of the brain. Joining the two cerebral hemispheres is the corpus callosum which is a huge mass of white matter containing about 300 million fibres, although somewhat more on average in women compared with men, which, maybe, explains their superior conversational abilities, or expression of their souls. The corpus callosum makes it possible for the right and left brains to communicate with each other. They enable the will (a function of the right brain) and understanding (a function of the left brain according to Swedenborg) to work as one.
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          Apr 15 2014: Adriaan,
          I consider all information, and I also consider the source. Science clearly acknowledges two sides of the Brain, and I am aware of the structure and function of the brain.

          The topic question is...
          "How does gender affect formulation of opinion based on perception?"

          If you feel there is a spiritual component to the formulation of opinion based on perception, that is understandable, and may be true for some people.

          Your statement that I question is...
          "men primarily use their understanding while women primarily use their will to interact with life."

          You provided the answer....."according to Swedenborg". Everything Swedenborg wrote Adriaan, is not necessarily fact, and you present it as such. It is one person's religious belief and teaching, To present it as fact is inaccurate.
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      Apr 15 2014: That's funny Colleen I was going to ask the exact same question. :)

      I guess I'm just displaying my "will" to "understand" :)


      There's research out there that seems to prove that men and women house their language related information differently inside the brain.

      If a man has a stroke that damages the right hemisphere of the brain he may lose up to 80% of his language IQ.

      If a woman suffers a stroke that damages the right hemisphere of the brain often she loses between 9-11% of her language IQ.

      Female language is stored in many areas of the brain where as in men it is thought to be held in a centralized location.

      ---Amendment to my Post above
      I just wanted to change a statistic I posted here that was drastically incorrect the other day. Men don't lose up to 80% of their language IQ it was closer to 18%. and it wasn't the right side of the brain it was the left. I should have double checked that before I posted it.

      The point is still the same. Men don't house their language on both sides of the brain like women do.
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        Apr 15 2014: I realize that the male and female brain differs Ang. That does not explain the statement...."men primarily use their understanding while women primarily use their will to interact with life."

        In fact, it seems like a contradiction with fact, because women are generally thought to be more understanding.

        Well, the statement is from a religious teaching....what do we expect???
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          Apr 15 2014: My comment was in response to

          "The closest science comes is acknowledging the two sides of the brain. Joining the two cerebral hemispheres is the corpus callosum which is a huge mass of white matter containing about 300 million fibers, although somewhat more on average in women compared with men, which, maybe, explains their superior conversational abilities, or expression of their souls. The corpus callosum makes it possible for the right and left brains to communicate with each other"

          which was in Adriaan's reply :)
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      Apr 15 2014: What do you perceive would be the reasoning behind females committing murder in the 1st degree more often than the other degrees of murder??
      • Apr 15 2014: Hi Ang, this is one of the last paragraphs in the link in my first post. It says more or less the same I was saying.

        "The individual man or woman, it is true, is in the image and likeness of the Creator also, for God’s image is in every one of His works; that is, man and woman individually have will and understanding. However, the Writings say that with the man the understanding predominates and with the woman the will predominates and that which predominates gives the name. Each is complete, in a sense, in himself or herself (that is, the spinster or the bachelor) and can be prepared for the reception of conjugial love. They can, as it were, almost receive it immediately, that is, meet their conjugial partner immediately on entering the other world. Through the general masculine sphere or through the general feminine sphere, each can be prepared for conjugial love while on this earth so they can receive it in fullness after death. Thus we see that man[kind] is blessed in the creation of homo (vir and femina) or of Adam (ish and ishah)."

        One more thing, we very much believe that our brain is not us, but that it is the 'receiver' of the body, That our spirit corresponds with our body through the brain. Does that sound outrages to you?

        Your question about murder may need a long study involving motives and opportunities. I wouldn't even know what the difference is in the degrees of murder.
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          Apr 16 2014: 1st degree murder is premeditated. The person set up a plan and carried it out. I'm not asking for the studied answer. I'm asking what does your gut instinct tell you when you ponder why women would be committing 1st degree murder more than the others. It's a question that requires speculation on your part.

          Yes I know that was from your post because I copied and pasted it from there. :)
      • Apr 16 2014: My gut feeling is that if the will dominates and determines our actions it is more an existing 'condition' and less a 'spur of the moment' action.

        If the intellect predominates it becomes easier to do things we don't like. Change plans. But also be less connected to who and what we love, and take less time to express that.

        There is one source that I would consider a good answer to your post and general topic. It is one of Swedenborg's books dealing with gender issues. It is so explicit that at first, about 250 years ago, it could not be imported to Sweden. The title is Marriage Love and covers a large perspective of issues and ideals.
        http://www.swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swedenborg_foundation_conjugial_love.pdf

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