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Is Emotional Intelligence as important or more important as IQ or not at all?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence
offers a snapshot of this exciting new measurement and how it might better facilitate human understanding and interaction.

One only needs to witness an "adult" exhibiting an adolescent fit of rage, or temper tantrum to know that age has nothing to do with emotional maturity or awareness.

What are your feelings regarding this subject?

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    Apr 6 2014: William, Emotional intelligence (EI) is the ability to identify, assess, and control the emotions of oneself, of others, and of groups. It can be divided into ability EI and trait EI.

    Criticisms have centered on whether EI is a real intelligence and whether it has incremental validity over IQ and the Big Five personality traits.

    Each has it values and uses and the measurements can be use to advantage and as a measuring stick for the assignment of tasks and duties.

    Since they measure different areas and are designed for specific assessments ... why concern ourselves with pitting one against the other. That would be the equivalent of apples versus oranges.

    Your question and your explanation are vastly different. One asks the importance of one to another ... The explanation stresses the usefulness of the EI.

    Be well. Bob.
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      Apr 8 2014: I think not Bob. A sufficiently emotional intelligent person would understand that the emotional harm they impose upon those around then is almost as detrimental to their own blood pressure as it is to the emotional stability of those who have to endure the tantrums. They would also most likely possess healthier and far more functional forms of expressions than simply raging.

      Not is there any attempt to "pit one against the other" when they can simply be compared for personal preference of importance. I know I would much rather interact with a person who expresses a level of emotionality higher than simply throwing tantrums or condescending authority for example no matter how well informed or skilled they might be.

      Conversely, if a person possesses the IQ characteristics of being sufficiently self-aware, logical and understanding, then there is a very good chance that they also possess an equally sufficient emotional EQ to have little need for tantrums and raging. Unfortunately this is not always the case. Hence my preference of EQ over IQ.
  • Apr 8 2014: What is it that 'makes' us do what we do?

    I've been taught that we humans have a will and an understanding. We are (and do) what we love but control and shape that with our understanding / intelligence.

    Our emotions are connected to our loves. Our IQ is connected to what we know. So in total, it seems to me that no matter how much we know, we can still act stupidly :)

    Love is the substance, truth is its shape or form.
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      Apr 9 2014: For me "ignorant" simply means lacking sufficient or proper knowledge and understanding while "stupid" means we know better but refuse to operate on that knowledge.

      In that context "love" can most definitely make us stupid :)
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    Apr 7 2014: i would tend to think that having a good iq helps you to conduct yourself more intelligently emotionally as well? I hope we don't have to choose?
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      Apr 8 2014: Well, as I pointed out to Bob, I tend to choose an emotionally intelligent person over condescending authorities and tantrum throwing individuals to interact with. And if I don't have that choice than I tend to simply walk away from them and seek another source.

      And having spent decades both studying and working in the academic community I can assure you that there are plenty of high IQ's that do not possess an equal level of emotional maturity. .
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        Apr 8 2014: yeah, william, but a person who was only emotionally intelligent wouldn't be too interesting, either, don't we kind of want both?

        But are you saying a person with high IQ is more likely to be emotionally immature than a person with an average IQ? Why would that be?
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          Apr 9 2014: I was simply stating my preference for the emotionally mature over those who are knowledgeable but lacking that emotional maturity.

          And I laugh at the idea that an emotionally intelligent person would not be interesting )
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        Apr 9 2014: well, to each his own. For me, I would probably prefer the intelligent person with low e.q. because i think they have a better chance of moving toward better e.q., where the person with high e.q. might not move toward high i.q. But it sure seems like one would want a quotient of both.
  • Apr 5 2014: "...women tend to score higher levels than men."
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence
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      Apr 5 2014: That does not surprise me Rodrigo! If we look at the "ability model" in the link you provide, the main elements include perceiving, using and understanding emotions.

      Traditionally, girls/women have been taught and encouraged to use and understand emotions, while boys/men have been taught and encouraged NOT to show emotions....yes?

      I believe men have an equal ability to perceive, use and understand emotions, and now that our societies are encouraging men to do so, the "score" may equalize? What do you think?
      • Apr 5 2014: We cannot efficiently kill other beings if we are emotionally acquainted with them. Do you think that, traditionally, women were just as bad as men for discouraging emotional intelligence in males?
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          Apr 5 2014: OH....right.....we cannot efficiently kill other beings if we are emotionally acquainted. Perhaps we need to stop killing others?

          I think society discouraged emotional intelligence in males, and we (males and females) are all part of society....right?
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          Apr 5 2014: Since you brought up killing, I just thought of something.....we seem to be seeing a lot more PTSD with returning soldiers. Do you think there IS more of it? Or could it be that we are recognizing it more? Could it be that soldiers (who are mostly male) are connecting more with emotions, and therefore "feeling" more?
      • Apr 5 2014: Society is becoming more emotionally intelligent because of Globalisation; women are growing, too, but men have got more catching-up to do. And if women were ever traditionally as bad as men for discouraging it then it was a social survival strategy. But I suspect that men were always worse than women because war sounds exciting and women keep themselves occupied by raising children.
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          Apr 5 2014: I agree with that Rodrigo.....society is becoming more emotionally intelligent because of globalization. When we interact with people from different cultures, we may realize that we are all more the same than different. Hopefully, it encourages more compassion and emotional intelligence.

          Another good point....we had our "roles".....men fought for rights, protection, freedom, etc., and women stayed home and raised the children, being the emotional supporters of the family, while man worked out of the home in a sometimes aggressive environment, including war!

          That is changing as more women are in the workforce, including war, while more and more men are stay at home dads. I believe this to be an opportunity for all of us to evaluate our emotional intelligence?
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          Apr 5 2014: Inclusiveness does seem to be another consequence of globalization. That is to say, prejudices have been falling by the wayside ever since women were given the vote and children were deemed to be human beings..

          It was not that long ago that long hair and the way we dressed were targets of small-mindedness and petty prejudices and let us not forget the long and troubled history of racial and religious prejudices.

          But today cross dressing is just another fashion statement, men's hair is as coiffed as any woman's while race and religious intolerance are finding it harder and harder to obtain a seat on the bus.
  • Apr 5 2014: Without emotional intelligence, maturity, and hopefully some level of wisdom, what good is intelligence? This speaks directly to a point I was trying to make in the TEDtalk about "the long reach of reason". Great topic sir.

    "Mar 17 2014: I can see the strength of their argument, but I would say that since none of us are solely logical creatures, emotion has a part to play. There is no reasonable argument for cruelty, but for the logical argument against it to even be considered one's empathy must be tapped. Compassion is the key that opens our minds to the logical argument of ever expanding spheres of empathy and gives us pause enough to consider its merit as an argument. Great talk!"

    http://www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_and_rebecca_newberger_goldstein_the_long_reach_of_reason
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      Apr 5 2014: Thanks Jacob, It was not that long about that North Americans would take the family and make a picnic of watching a convicted person being pillared, flogged and even hanged as a form of entertainment. Now we can get all that on TV and the internet. It seems barbarity is still a consumer product.

      I agree that emotional maturity provides a good balance to IQ and wonder if EQ will ever be part of our educational system.
      • Apr 5 2014: I'm not sure it will ever be a part of public education, but hopefully be a larger part of our society and cultural education.
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        Apr 5 2014: William and Jacob,
        Perhaps it will not be "officially" part of our education systems (taught in a class specifically for that reason), and perhaps as we realize it as an "idea worth spreading", it will be brought to our educational systems by modeling the behavior? Hopefully it could be brought into ALL systems by modeling the behavior.
    • Apr 7 2014: Jacob,

      I agree with you and those who have intelligence and maturity do great things. Unfortunately, there are many who the world calls genius but have the maturity level of a 5 year old. They are less productive than they should but they are productive.
      • Apr 7 2014: I posted this Calvin Coolidge quote in another talk, your mention of genius made me think of it.

        "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan Press On! has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.
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    Apr 5 2014: Good question William!

    I believe emotional intelligence is as important as IQ, and I believe that there are several layers of intelligence in the body/mind systems, which can work all together successfully....holistically. I also believe that emotional intelligence (ability to identify and assess emotions in our self and in others), may be connected to intuition/instinct. Well, I think/feel EVERYTHING is interconnected! On another level, we even have "muscle memory", which seems to indicate some kind of "intelligence" in all systems of the interconnected body/mind.

    I totally agree....age has nothing to do with emotional maturity or awareness, except it may give us more time to explore the body/mind interconnected systems:>)
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      Apr 5 2014: agreed Colleen, and that exploration is just one more reason for us to slow down on the human "doings" and, in stead, spend more time in the human "being" aspect of our lives :)
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        Apr 5 2014: Yes William, it appears that in some cultures (western in particular) people are so busy "doing", that sometimes HOW the life experience is lived is lost in the shuffle and busyness. It helps to slow down and smell the roses....so to speak.....practice awareness....mindfulness....
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    Apr 5 2014: If this is a new concept for anyone please check out the wiki link supplied above. I find it a refreshing perspective relative to virtually every human interaction.