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Kamran Ali

Project Internee, Atlas Honda Limited

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How you will define Corruption? Any strong strategy for elimination of Corruption?

Corruption can be define in many ways, in simple it vary from person to person. I have thought lot about it and have found almost every one (including myself) a corrupt one in any stage. People only define this in a way that they neglect their own corruption and include the corruption done by all other people.

(I am not criticizing any one, but I just want to know your opinion )

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    Mar 16 2014: Hello Kamran:>)

    I use the accepted dictionary definition for corruption..."impairment of integrity, virtue, or moral principle; depravity; decay, decomposition; inducement to wrong by bribery or other unlawful or improper means".

    Most of us seem to know what corruption is, and I do not agree that almost everyone is corrupt. If we do not question and evaluate our life practices, we have the ability to be corrupt in some ways. If we do not recognize that taking from others to benefit ourselves, is an impairment to our integrity, we can become "corrupt" in various ways.

    You ask the question about a strategy for elimination of corruption.....

    One strategy we can use as individuals, is to evaluate ourselves, our thoughts, feelings and behaviors. Why do we practice certain corrupt behaviors? My personal belief, is that we are all interconnected, so when we practice corruption, we are hurting ourselves AND the whole. Why do that to ourselves?

    On another level, an effective strategy is transparency. Corruption, generally thrives better in isolation. If nobody knows about corruption, it continues.....right? Corruption has been accepted in our societies for a very long time, and people have supported it by looking the other way...don't make waves...that sometimes seems more "safe" for some people.

    We went through a stage when whistle blowers were considered the bad guys...we were stirring the pot..causing people to face corruption, and lots of people didn't like that at all, so the whistleblowers were blamed rather than the corruption we were unraveling.

    Now, it seems that whistleblowers are becoming a little more accepted and appreciated for what they/we are doing, and more people are realizing that in order to eliminate corruption, it first has to be uncovered. We cannot eliminate something that we are not aware of...right?

    I believe our improving awareness and advanced communication systems are facilitating some elimination of corruption......what do you think?
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      Mar 17 2014: Dear Colleen, I appreciate your points and strategies. I also believe that if every individual start realizing that why he is doing such wrong to himself, his family and with society similarly the effects of corruption will be multiple as well.

      But it is natural that when a person will see money (bribe) his/her mind will be focused on evil doings (here I am talking about majority).

      Every coin has two sides, some where these advance communication systems are ruining us and some where they are helping us.
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        Mar 17 2014: Kamran,
        I respect your points as well, and I do not agree that corruption is a natural focus with the majority of people in our world. I agree....every coin has two sides....every issue probably has many perspectives. I suspect that in different areas of our world, circumstances are very different?
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          Mar 17 2014: Colleen,
          I have used natural word for money only,,, and it is true.. and money is the major player in corruption.
          I agree that circumstances are vary in different corner of the world, but some things are certain and corruption is one of them.
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        Mar 17 2014: I do not understand, Kamran,whether you are saying that it is natural for people today to be inclined to be corrupt (with which I do not agree) or to be very concerned about corruption when they see it. I think there is plenty of research to support the latter- that being disturbed at things that are not fair is deeply ingrained and demonstrated even in infants and toddlers, according to research I have read recently.

        I think the proportion of people attracted to corruption is a *small* minority in most places. I think corruption is normalized in some settings and in those people may consider it part of doing business rather than a problem, whereas in places where corruption is not normalized, the majority of people will find it highly disturbing.

        Here is another pertinent link about perception of corruption by country. http://www.transparency.org/research/cpi/overview

        It is important to note that these are the perceptions of people who actually live and work in those countries- including whether bribes are part of doing business and so forth. This does not attempt to capture things like what people who do *not* live there assume, based on what they learn from media and so forth.
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          Mar 17 2014: I do not agree with your point that only small proportion of people is attracted towards corruption... Let me tell you my experience.. I live in Pakistan with neighbor countries like India, China, Iran and Afghanistan... I have learned from teachers who had lived many years in different countries like USA,KSA,UK,Australia,China,Malaysia etc..
          They all say and I also say that in all mentioned countries corruption is in majority.
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          Mar 19 2014: I agree Fritzie, that corruption is normalized in some places more than in other places. The more it is accepted (normalized) the more possibility that people will take advantage of the acceptance of corruption.

          When I was a whistleblower for a toxic business locally, many people protested my action with arguments like.....this is how it's always been done.....these are "normal" business practices.

          It appeared that I was the bad guy for bringing the issue to light! And so it was with many other situations in this region. That was about 14-15 years ago, and I am happy to say that with persistence, and continually reminding people about conflict of interest (corruption) things have changed in this area:>)

          Part of the strategy I used, was to become part of the system, because I believe that things change more effectively from within a system rather than complaining and criticizing from the outside. Many times, people do not have all the information, which might contribute to transparency, so it helps to provide accurate, informed information.
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        Mar 17 2014: I would ask only that you regard even what your teachers say as more their specific impressions than verified fact and that you remain open to the alternative.

        It may be very common to be suspicious of others in this regard and in particular to have a negative view of what "the masses" are like. This does not mean that it is, in fact, what "the masses" are like.

        You may be able to assess for your own country but I would be cautious of drawing these conclusions for other countries.
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          Mar 18 2014: Corruption is every where my dear, the speaker who give talks they give their opinions because they have live there, I have also heard from such people (My Respectable Teachers) who have lived in countries for study.

          Well yes, I know my country best, but in this global world we can easily keep an eye on other countries specially who are in surrounding or famous one.

          In every corner of the world and in every country there are "Good and Bad People"
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        Mar 18 2014: I understand this. But, for example, if you look at the data linked above collected by Transparency International and you look at corruption indices, you will see there are differences among countries. It is not about whether people are good or bad but rather what the business climate and so forth are like that provides the context for people's behaviors.

        You will see there that the corruption indices for different countries are quite different. Here are some, where high scores mean less corruption and low scores suggest more corruption. Australia has a score of 81. Germany has a score of 78. The UK is at 76. The USA is at 73. Pakistan is at 28.

        So what you see around you in Pakistan does not necessarily reflect the culture surrounding corruption worldwide.

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