Poch Peralta

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Can Laser Beam Control Human Behavior? It was done with housefly.

Laser Beam Makes Flies Flirt
Can it also make people with the IQ of flies flirt too? If that's possible, the implication would be revolutionary: mind control with laser beam. It would be illegal to test that with people of course but I suggest a solution. Offer someone payment for a 'secret test' with a promise and a contract that said test would not be harmful and I bet someone would take the deal

'A flipped mental switch is all it takes to make a fly fall in love — even if its object of desire is a ball of wax. A technique called thermogenetics allows researchers to control fly behaviour by activating specific neurons with heat. Combining the system with techniques that use light to trigger neurons could help to elucidate how different neural circuits work together to control complex behaviours such as courtship...'
http://www.nature.com/news/laser-beam-makes-flies-flirt-1.14794

  • Mar 10 2014: I am just wondering about the side effects of the Laser Beam Technology to deal with a behavior .

    There are some organization who claim to De-addict people from their drug addiction problems. And they claim to do so by Laser Technology. They are using the half baked scientific researches that people get addicted to drugs because dopamine is released . And if the production of dopamine is muted through laser technology then that the person will not take the drugs.

    Now, the question is Dopamine is also released when a person falls in love . So, what would be the side effect when production of dopamine is permanentally muted through laser technology.
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      Mar 10 2014: '...what would be the side effect when production of dopamine is permanentally muted through laser technology?'

      Very intriguing question Smile. Since muting of dopamine does not eradicate our emotion of happiness, I don't thing permanentally muting dopamine production will matter much. Dopamine-suppressing drugs might even help cure bad habits that make us feel good.

      Your reply also reminded me that every good tech tool could also be used maliciously.
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    5 hours ago: Lookee! I have a stalker. I must be somebody, now--at least I'm so extremely important so some poor loony to be stalked by him.

    Hi Bryan

    Thank you so much for your unexpected and most welcome response to my post, which is IMO quite obviously libelous in two instances; to the degree of their being on an international scale, relative to the world-wide participants accessing TED Talks “well done!”

    Quite clearly a response on my part is warranted, and called for.

    However as the sun is out, and I have the far more important task of sanding down a book case, prior to re - painting it, to complete, and another conversation to respond to; this will have to wait.

    But please be reassured, that given the great intellectual import of your missive, I will be getting back to you in due course.

    Cheers Carl

    Previous Reference Conversation: That the Ancient Sumerian Geometers 3 to 1 ratio, of a circles circumferential length to its diameter length, was and is correct.
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      Mar 11 2014: Both my answers below seems to answer yours too Jonathan
      to Ariel:
      '...'sound waves' built into soldiers' helmets can activate aggressive behavior.'
      I seem to remember that too Ariel. What I'm sure of is that sound waves could now be pointed at a target and used for aggression. Since laser beam could also be pointed at a target, imagine combining those two as a weapon!!
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      '...what would be the side effect when production of dopamine is permanentally muted through laser technology?'

      Very intriguing question Smile. Since muting of dopamine does not eradicate our emotion of happiness, I don't thing permanentally muting dopamine production will matter much. Dopamine-suppressing drugs might even help cure bad habits that make us feel good.

      Your reply also reminded me that every good tech tool could also be used maliciously.
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          Mar 11 2014: 'So if there is a way to end wars peacefully without permanent damage you can bet it is being developed.'
          Great prediction Jonathan. I sure hope that's accomplished though I still believe the last world war will annihilate the earth.
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    Mar 10 2014: Absolutely! If it couldn't, any laser pointer on this planet was literally pointless!

    :o)
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      Mar 11 2014: The certainty of your answer scares me I wish it's false Lejan! %-x
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        Lejan .

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        Mar 11 2014: Your eyes never followed a laser-pointer when used in a presentation? Because if they did, a laser beam then has controlled your behavior!

        Nothing to be scared of, as long as the pointer is used appropriately.

        On neural stimulation, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work on humans and this regardless of their IQ, as any of our neurons are simple on/off switches and if someone switches the 'right' ones, the result would be accordingly, including emotions.

        This is why in brain surgery any patient remains conscious, to have a direct feedback loop for the surgeon which areas better not to touch.
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          Mar 11 2014: 'Your eyes never followed a laser-pointer when used in a presentation? Because if they did, a laser beam then has controlled your behavior!'
          The simplest and best illustration so far! You've convinced and scared me further thanks!
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        Mar 11 2014: There is no need to be scared of laser-light, Poch, as long as you read and stick to the safety regulations.

        On neural stimulation you can relax too, as the bone structure of our skulls is light-proof on modest, natural energy levels and visual wave length.

        We also know, that we don't experience any behavioral change when our head is x-rayed, which actually does nothing else but to flood a lot of light through our neurons.

        Coherent light only helps to intensify its energy level and as long laser weapons are still bulky as they are today, our general behavior remains unaffected by them most of the time until that changes.

        So enjoy the sun, because her light does of a lot of 'switching' in our heads ... :o)
  • Mar 10 2014: But, I have already controlled many brains without using Laser Technology . Ha Ha Ha
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      Mar 10 2014: lol You're reply might be funny but come to think of it---if laser can alter human behavior, it could also probably control our minds!
  • Mar 8 2014: It only worked with house fly because housefly can't make tinfoil hat.
  • Mar 8 2014: Bryan Maloney

    Just love your intellectual comments, Quote

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    Feb 24 2014: You're a loony, did you know that?
    You also have no understanding of math.



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    6 days ago: Evidently, you don't know you're a loony. At least you're funny.

    o Bryan Maloney 20+


    Stop throwing verbal hand grenades

    Yeah, good luck with that. I watch my own tongue (not as well as I should) but good luck convincing any wife of this.

    Can Laser Beam Control Human Behavior? It was done with housefly.

    Given the very simple structure of the housefly and its extremely limited cognitive ability vs. humans, I would say that only those humans with the mind of a housefly would be subject to such control. So, yes for most humans.

    And I would say Bryan: that you should put your extreme hubris, where the sun does not shine; then look in the mirror and polish your own antenna.

    Cheers Carl

    Previous Reference Conversation: That the Ancient Sumerian Geometers 3 to 1 ratio, of a circles circumferential length to its diameter length, was and is correct.
    • Mar 10 2014: Lookee! I have a stalker. I must be somebody, now--at least I'm so extremely important so some poor loony to be stalked by him.
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        o Bryan Maloney 20+
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        5 hours ago: Lookee! I have a stalker. I must be somebody, now--at least I'm so extremely important so some poor loony to be stalked by him.

        Hi Bryan

        Thank you so much for your unexpected and most welcome response to my post, which is IMO quite obviously libelous in two instances; to the degree of their being on an international scale, relative to the world-wide participants accessing TED Talks “well done!”

        Quite clearly a response on my part is warranted, and called for.

        However as the sun is out, and I have the far more important task of sanding down a book case, prior to re - painting it, to complete, and another conversation to respond to; this will have to wait.

        But please be reassured, that given the great intellectual import of your missive, I will be getting back to you in due course.

        Cheers Carl

        Previous Reference Conversation: That the Ancient Sumerian Geometers 3 to 1 ratio, of a circles circumferential length to its diameter length, was and is correct.
  • Mar 7 2014: Given the very simple structure of the housefly and its extremely limited cognitive ability vs. humans, I would say that only those humans with the mind of a housefly would be subject to such control. So, yes for most humans.
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      Mar 7 2014: Yes Bryan. That's why I mentioned human IQ lol
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    Mar 7 2014: @rodrigo and ariel
    I assume you are both either Spanish or Latin American. My largest group follower on Twitter are either those 2 groups so I'm very close to them. If you are on Twitter, why don't we follow each other?
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    Mar 7 2014: I've heard somewhere that 'sound waves' built into soldiers' helmets can activate aggressive behavior. Fly and mice physiology are two very different things especially compared to humans. But I think theoretically it can be done. However, the mice and flies used in the experiments have genetically altered cells so until we find a way of getting those altered cells in the brain and some how light that up through the hair, skin, skull, and cranial fluid, then it would be a long shot.
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      Mar 7 2014: '...'sound waves' built into soldiers' helmets can activate aggressive behavior.'
      I seem to remember that too Ariel. What I'm sure of is that sound waves could now be pointed at a target and used for aggression. Since laser beam could also be pointed at a target, imagine combining those two as a weapon!!

      '...the mice and flies used in the experiments have genetically altered cells...'
      Altering cells genetically on various animals and creating mutants is now easy and commonplace. But as I said earlier, doing that to humans would be illegal too but I bet it would be done if it is legal!
    • Mar 10 2014: The trick with all these methods is that they might work with human subjects, but they are also too brutal to work with human subjects in any meaningful fashion. Enhancing "aggression" in soldiers in a purely mechanistic fashion might make them better soldiers, or it might make them turn on their commanders and tear them limb from limb for being so oppressive. We like to pretend that our "animal" parts and our "human" parts are distinct. They're not. Every person is a unified whole with the amazing capacity to imagine that we are made up of parts. It is a totalitarian's wet dream to be able to flip a switch and control minds, but it will never work because the part that is amenable to such control is merely force without direction. Turn it on and pray that your masses have been sufficiently indoctrinated. If anything exposes a lie, the force can lash back.
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    Mar 7 2014: Poch, where do you get all these unusual but interesting "things"?
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      Mar 7 2014: My niche in blogging is Technology and Alternative Media. I gather content for my blog posts by surfing a lot of websites and that's how I discover interesting 'things'. Most of my content about Alternative Media are about protests and activism but of course TED will most probably reject them so I avoid posting them here. Visit pochp.wordpress.com to get more ideas about my 'things'.