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Marco Masi

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Why was Franz Hörman banned by Ted Talks?

Here is the banned video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm_70QwBI60
Any idea what there was so wrong that needed censorship?

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    Now... consider the context of Franz's talk. Or... look into registering for TEDGlobal2014 what I'm trying to convey should be more apparent.

    More to maybe consider..
    "RICHARD SAUL WURMAN THE KING OF ACCESS Q: WHAT DO BILL GATES, DANIEL BOORSTIN, MARVIN MINSKY, HORACE DEETS, HERBIE HANCOCK, NICHOLAS NEGROPONTE, EDWARD DE BONO, AND A SLEW OF OTHER ELITE DOERS AND THINKERS HAVE IN COMMON? A: THEY'RE ALL FRIENDS OF TED."
    http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1997/06/23/228090/
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    Mar 9 2014: Another banned TED talk, by Nick Hanauer, you can find here, which also questions the current economic mantra:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCvf8E7V1g
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    Mar 9 2014: Because Franz Hörman questioned the very foundation of the ruling capitalistic system, which isn't tolerated or widely supported by many media today.

    Unfortunately for some, his talk can not be labeled as 'conspiracy theory', because he states verifiable facts, so one way to deal with it is to 'ignore' it, which for TED would mean not to 'publish' it on their site.

    TED is naturally authorized to do so, as they can choose freely what goes under their name.
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      Mar 10 2014: I didn't know of Nick Hanauer's talk too. That is interesting. I once liked TED for its interesting talks. But it seems that it has been absorbed by the usual intolerant mainstream and prefers to side with big corporations and standing against the people. How sad... :( ... I will no longer recommend it.
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        Mar 10 2014: I understand what you mean and was somewhat thinking the same way as you do, Marco, when I first learned about TED's choice on certain topics, especially on the 'educational' side of economics.

        Nevertheless, there are so many good speeches of beautiful minds concentrated on one spot here, that to me this site is still recommendable in general.

        Those who have glimpsed behind several 'political curtains' may not find additional informations in large numbers here, but there are plenty of other, more independent sources on the Internet to fill this gap.

        Technology and Design are usually apolitical by definition and so are many 'educational' topics here too. And as many of those speakers earned my respect, I do not connect their ideas with the publishing framework TED is offering to them.

        The good thing of search engines today is, that it takes a blink of an eye to find 'censored TED talks', which rounds up ones own personal picture how to classify this site and how to take it.

        From there, everything is just fine, as no one should ever expect to find a single, unbiased source of information anyway, because as soon as you do, you've been honey-traped already... :o)
  • Mar 1 2014: Cuz his mama dress him funny?
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      Mar 9 2014: Why is it that you defend a proper understanding of 'FREE MARKET CAPITALISM' so spirited and elaborately here:

      http://www.ted.com/conversations/23241/march_14th_12_30_to_3_30_pm_w.html

      yet get so uninspired, even childish, here, where it gets down to its very basics?
      • Mar 9 2014: I contradict myself? Very well, then, I contradict myself. And why not? For do I not contain multitudes?
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          Mar 9 2014: So consistency is no necessity in your world-views and believes, because you contain multitudes?

          The inversion of this argument would mean, that consistency in thought and statement was monotonous?

          At least I never experienced this in me nor in others so far. On the contrary. Its the foundation of reliability.
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    Feb 28 2014: @Fritzie: Ahh... yes thanks that's interesting, and I'm wondering which guideline Hörmann violated? For me none. But TEDx content guidelines are so many and so articulated that virtually EVERY talk could then be suspect of violating one or the other rule according to someone's point of view. Such kind of enumeration of precepts and protocols seems to be tailored in such a way that in principle everything and everyone could be censored arbitrarily.
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      Feb 28 2014: I think your quickest way to find out what the curation issue was with this talk is to contact the TED staff using the contact link at the bottom of the page.
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    Feb 28 2014: It looks from your link as if he DID give a TEDx talk and that it is available on Youtube.

    I am guessing by "banned" you mean it is not available on the TEDx Youtube channel. If you want to check on the criteria for that, which also are guidelines TEDx organizers are supposed to discuss with speakers before their presentations, here they are: http://www.ted.com/pages/tedx_curating_speakers
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    Feb 28 2014: I don't represent TED nor am I familiar with all of its policies, but I think it may have something to do with the talk being combative, or 'rebellious'. I believe TED would like to avoid such issues especially with an existing and legal entity such as banks, and posting a video of such nature could indicate that TED is against such an institution or at least is taking sides. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the talk because it IS true that banks do have the right to lend money it did not own, (therefore the money out of thin air) and sir Horman is only pointing out the pitfalls of such a policy. I've seen Al Gore and many other political activists advertise their cause on TED, and I believe sir Horman's talk could be considered to be of similar nature. I apologize for not being able to spell his name accurately.