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Vera Nova

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DO WE REALLY FALL IN LOVE WITH A REAL PERSON, OR WITH A "THING IN ITSELF" THAT WE WILL NEVER KNOW?

No one can reflect any thing or any living creature in mind as it is. All people are "things in themselves".

What is it we perceive and sense in our minds that so magnetically attracts our sensations and feelings?

Sometimes individuals sacrifice their life for someone who they idealize, fantasizing who this person is, but knowing so little about him/her, prefering to be blinded by their own fantasies.

Are we in love with our own fantasies?

One is loving something that is pleasing one's physical sense-perceptions: looks, sounds, taste, shapes even when those "things" or individuals are artificially "fixed"?

What is the difference between loving those feelings delivered through our physical bodies and brains ---- and loving non-physical dreams, ideas, or god, when our love becomes a bliss empowered within our deep subconsciousness?

Why a person we so like at fisrt often becomes an object of our bitter disappointment as soon as we know this person closer?

After all Do we really love our images and ideas?

Why is that often the words we exchange do not match our imaginative charachters we love in our minds, and eventually break our love relationship with a real person?

Are we all those "things-in-themselves"?

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    Mar 20 2014: Cannot agree more with you and could not put it better than you do:

    For instance in a two person mix there are at least six personas. 1) the person I really am 2) the person I think I am 3) the person the other person thinks I am and then there is 4) the other person as they are 5) the other person as they think they are 6) the other person as I think they are

    I'd like to add to it - you also act as all those characters in your own mind just in order to see what might be happening among characters. But they're Not Real people.

    I guess I might have an answer to " So my question is, in the morning when I wake up next to you, hypothetically of course, who am I going be and who am I going to meet?"

    You have to Create an image of a person next to you, in your mind. We cannot see others there're "things-in-themselves". We may never visit other's playhouses of minds, for real.

    Then What is my body doing here or there? Does it show/express my mind, my Self, my real character?

    I think the body is just a vehicle that we may drive around like we driving a car. It's appearance can deceive many people, it may look attractive or ugly, has a powerful engine or broken parts, but the mind, or Self, is the driver no one can see.

    When we look at one another we commonly believe that we look at someone as he/she is. Our perceiving of others and our environment, tiny particles under the microscope or the grand universe - is a very complicated process.

    This might be some answer to some point - the process of perceiving is not for reflect anything as it is. Therefore, we have to make up something of what we may sense from our constant interactions with our environment and beyond..

    Why do we have to internally act as very many characters not just one?

    In order to sense or understand we have to constantly Compare many of our sensation, images, sounds, ideas.
    We need to keep comparing sensations awake/asleep, or we cannot sense a thing.

    Super thinking, Keith
    • Mar 21 2014: "But they're Not Real people."
      There is only one you at a time and that one, at that moment, is always right. However are brain is the greatest multi-tasker in the world. It can switch characters, language and perception almost instantly at will. I am sure you have watched comedians do it for fun and entertainment. Actors call it getting into character. They study and imitate the character until their own mind believes they "are" the character and if they are really good they make us believe that they are the character.
      The thing that makes it real or not real is "belief", plus it is time and space sensitive as all things are.
      Back to "always right", all minds cannot function any other way. Even crazy people are subject to that law. When a crazy person sees stuff that you do not see it is what they believe and that is what makes it real to them. Just like waking up from a nightmare where you believed you were in some kind of danger, you could be sweating and horrified when you wake up and even though it was simply thoughts in your head, it was very real at the time. Again the only difference between real and not real is your belief. Your mind makes it so.
      "Nothing exists outside the mind for it is the mind that makes it so"- Keith W Henline

      "Why do we have to internally act as very many characters not just one?"
      Our minds love to exercise and is very capable of playing out several scenarios in any given situation. I think it does it because it is bored to death of the same old routine or you asking it the same old questions over and over again. It's the kid in us that loves to play, it the adult that loves to be challenged, it's the artist that wants to create. After all it is the most advanced thinking machine in the world sitting on top of the most advanced powerhouse of a body, don't you think it wants to get out there on the freeway to the stars?
      I liked your analogy of the body is like a car, probably a Ferrari.
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        Mar 21 2014: I had that topic previously "Why we have to act as very many characters in our minds..."


        I guess it's expired. Sorry, we cannot proceed for more than 20 hours or so with this conversation. Would you like to publish some related to this coversation topic?


        No one really thought in this direction (natural ability to act) before - you're the fist person who feels what I'm taking about. We are all born with that superb primordial INTERNAL acting ability... without which no image, no thought or any communication activity is ever possible for any individual living form.

        My work is directly related to this pioneering observation on human perceptions... I have a lot to share
        • Mar 21 2014: I think you covered the topic pretty well by the way we have a mutual friend Dr, Marika who wanted me to work with you as I build her a website for her project. You can email me anytime from my profile or keithwhenline@gmail.com to talk about other stuff like that.
          It was very nice talking with you, I see you already met Colleen our blackbelt inspirational personality in here and probably the whole state of Vermont. By the way you know I only live a couple miles from you on Charleston and Rainbow. Sweet dreams I talk more tomorrow:)
          One last thing about love and your topic: http://youtu.be/GPGfebToOYg
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        Mar 21 2014: You're a poet+ Socrates, Keith.
        "It's the kid in us that loves to play, it the adult that loves to be challenged, it's the artist that wants to create. After all it is the most advanced thinking machine in the world sitting on top of the most advanced powerhouse of a body, don't you think it wants to get out there on the freeway to the stars?"

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