Mike Colera

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Why should I care?

Anthropologists say there are five different races, I am not an anthropologist, why should I care. Besides, nobody gets to choose their ancestors.
Ben and Jerry want to get married. Are they going to keep making vanilla cherry ice cream? Then why should I care.

Every day we are faced with questions and situations that are or seemlingly are of great concerns to all of society. Now some people are truly conflicted and I am not sure why. I can do nothing about your race. And I wasn't invited to the nuptuals.

There are wars going on all over the world. Nobody called and asked if I thought an invasion was a good idea.
Now, I see many people gather into demonstrations, parade up and down the streets and carry banners for causes that they have no influence. I have been told it makess them feel good, but why should I care. Should I be bothered about things over which I have no control?

What is more mystifying is that people acost me...I am not all in knots over their cause. Then, I ask them "why should I care". They go apoplexic, but don't really have an answer. I say that I have only so much real concern to express and I don't want to waste it on things I can't control or effect.
So why should I care?

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    Feb 20 2014: Why care about things you cannot control or affect.

    1) Because maintaining an inquisitive and active mind is essential to an individual's overall health

    2) Because people in groups can affect change which an individual cannot

    3) Because people with opposing ideas are also working in groups to affect change, and "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to remain silent."
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      Feb 21 2014: Lawren,

      Good points, but...

      1. I agree, you have to keep interested but does that mean emotional involvement.

      2. Groups? Usually groups slip to the lowest emotional level. Bad things have been done in groups.

      3. True. Evil does triumph when good men are silent. But, why should I care, get emotionally involved.
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        Feb 21 2014: Hmm? Here is a thought;

        How far you allow yourself to get emotionally involved, depends on how much control you how over your emotions.

        *If local news causes you to fear going outside, stop watching local news.
        *BUT if local news causes you to want to do something proactive to help the community, go ahead and watch local news.
        *If sport news bores you, change the channel or better yet get-up and do something.
        *If you see groups usually doing bad things, then find new groups to view. For despite what the media tells us, the good groups far outnumber the bad.
        *Learn Buddhist ways so you control how you view the world and evil does con you into doing nothing.
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          Feb 21 2014: Good point Don,
          But why would I want to get emotionally involved... aka care?
          I mean there are practical reasons to take action in matters but, is weeping and gnashing of teeth a requirement? .
  • Feb 21 2014: Anthropologists do not say there are 5 races. Anthropologists consider race to be a purely social construction with no fixed boundaries or definition.

    As for why you should care? Don't know, don't care. Your choice. I'm not pointing guns and demanding anyone care.
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      Feb 21 2014: Yeah, that's what they say now, but back in the day.... when they came up with the shades of color....
      they were sure... and now you bring in the 2nd amendment?
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    Feb 21 2014: Mike, Great conversation. As you, I spend little time in tilting at windmills. As I understand the term it means attacking imaginary enemies.

    Most arguments are emotional ... seldom are fact based. Most religions came for the same book .. the Bible. They base their thought on a specific chapter, verse, etc ... I solved this years ago and say that I am happy for you that you find comfort in your beliefs. I find no need to convert their thought or practices .... nor do I have to agree.

    I often work or on a committee with people I do not like. The aim is to achieve a specific goal and to work together in the effort. Having a drink after or inviting them to my house has nothing to do with the task at hand. I am at peace with this also. Life is to short to associate with those I do not like.

    I discuss many issues on this site ... I try hard to not be emotional ... "care" has many definations .... one being the suffering of mind ... This I refuse to do ... and consider this to be your point. That I care for my loved ones and what happens to them .... I accept this and do "care".

    So here is my summary: A journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step.

    So what is the first step? It could be a combination. Know who you are and accept that. Do your own homework. Never argue with a fool because it is hard for observers to tell which is which. Discuss from facts and not from emotion. Following a pied pipper just makes you one of the rats.

    And finally .... understand what Mike means when he says "Why should I care".

    Is he heartless or unwilling to blindly follow and be a sheeple?

    Mike once again I doff my chapeau to you sir.

    Be well my friend .... Bob.
  • Feb 21 2014: Why should I care if you should or should not care?
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      Feb 21 2014: Absolutely.
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      Feb 22 2014: Good point Entropy! There are too many people in our world who want to tell others what they/we "should" and "should not" care about!

      I personally care about certain things because I am inquisitive, curious, and love to learn. I am also aware that each of us has the ability to be involved in many different ways, and I like to be aware of where I may, or may not make a difference.

      I like being aware of our world, and the last time I checked, I did not have any influence with world leaders, so I do not spend time and energy worrying about things I cannot control. I do not think "weeping and gnashing of teeth is a requirement" with caring, as you asked in another comment Mike:>) .

      I believe most people care about something or someone on many different levels, and I believe contributing to caring in our world is more beneficial and enjoyable than the alternative. Each person will, or will not decide who, what, why, when and in what way s/he chooses to care:>)
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    Feb 21 2014: for me it doesn't take much energy to care--a little bit--about many issues all over the world. The real energy is in trying to do something about an issue, there I would say I'm pretty choosy.

    Are there issues you actually try to do something about? What are they?
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      Feb 21 2014: There are issues that on an intellectual basis seem redundant, wasteful of resources, and a few that are down right without any sane foundation. For example, why all the emotion expressed because of "race"
      As I said, no one chooses their ancestors. Some people have expressed hatred for other races, Others embrace races not really their own and seem to relish the victimization. Or, some people bond with their own gender. Why has it caused all this commotion? I see no rational for opposition to people expressing themselves as they wish.

      Are there issues that I contemplate, most I have no control. In fact, there are very few things that I can control. Then there is the question; are my values more moral or righteous then other peoples values?
      There are those who will say I am right and others that say I am wrong.
      But, the question is why should I care?
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        Feb 21 2014: well, I do think it's good to be honest. If you don't care about something, you shouldn't pretend to. But you could be open to changing your mind, to starting out as not caring and then deciding you should care?

        Well, let's say a u.s. soldier is killed in afghanistan. I feel some empathy for the parents of the soldier. I think it's good to feel empathy because it keeps me doing my little part in working toward peace. It's motivation, or inspiration?

        but I'm sure you do care about some issues, correct, Mike? What are they? I would say individuals can make a difference. I have an impression that two women got concerned about landmines blowing up on innocent people all around the world, so they started an org that eventually won Nobel Peace Prize. Or Martin Luther King, started out as an ordinary preacher, eventually led a movement that really changed America? Course sad that he payed with his life.
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    Feb 27 2014: Are you at times...
    1. able to care for yourself without considering worldly events
    2. able to care for yourself with considering worldly events
    3. able to consider worldly events without caring for yourself
    4. able to consider worldly events with caring for yourself
    5. able to avoid being accosted in a nice way
    6. able to avoid being accosted in a not nice way

    Globalization seems to accept any individual into marketing mayhem.
    Do you care enough not to mindlessly market and promote things you cannot control?
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    Feb 27 2014: As this conversation draws to a close, I believe I should address this question of

    Why should I care.... about things that are none of my business. Your race, your intimacy, your religion. A hundred things more about you that are.... just none of my business. If I can define one character flaw in modern society that seems pervasive around the world is the "need" to be in everybody else's business. Gossip and tabloid magazines, bars, restaurants, facebook, tweeter, all venues to talk about others.
    It's all none of my business.
  • Feb 25 2014: It will give you something to do in your spare time. It is boring at the top of the food chain.
  • Feb 23 2014: You should only care for the things you consider important.
  • Feb 22 2014: Here's something to chew on from "Cloud Atlas". "Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness we birth our future."
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    Feb 22 2014: I care as long as I deal with a PERSON - not someone who represents a "special" racial or tribal group. In this case I cannot see a Responsible for his/her action and mentality individual. I think this is the only way to get rid of racists and antiracists wars - everyone has to learn how to become his/her own Responsible Individual - and Behaive socially and politely.
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      Feb 22 2014: Vera,
      A good point. There was comment made in my youth about how the milk of human kindness in some had turned to limburger cheese. I have come to enjoy limburger cheese, and now I resent the reference to evil people who exploit human foibles.
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    Feb 21 2014: Bob,
    You called my bluff.
    Too many of the conversations on this site as well in life are based on emotion and not on fact.
    In conversations, I have even seen fact presented and completely misrepresented in an emotional response. I am sometimes so amazed.
    Where I am really... baffled... is the intense emotional response to matters that are completely beyond anyone's control or effect.
    There are so many issues.
    Religion for one, some believe and some don't. Why should I care if you do believe or don't believe. I am most positive that my emotional response to your beliefs will mean nothing and that is rightly so.
    What is worse is when a person is belittled in his beliefs. Why should a person be called an idiot if he believes in some religion? Why should someone be cursed if he doesn't.
    Then there are matters of race, sexual preference. wealth, governance, The list is long. And so my question.
    Why should I care?
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      Feb 21 2014: Carolyn,
      I understand. And don't get me wrong, there are very personal things I care about. Things and situations over which I have influence or control. People I am very indebted too. But, what I am asking is "should we invest our emotions into situations far away that we have no influence or control?
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    Feb 21 2014: I should care only if I have a call of heart. If I have a call of heart I don't ask why I had it. I am made that way. I am born with a mind that asks questions. questions that are not my business, but questions that unsettle me, intrigue me and challenge my ascetic peace.
    I care why we have to be born into races when underneath the skin we are the same pile of flesh and bones. I care why we are so intelligent to seek and solve so many challenges yet are so silly not to sustain them.
    I care because I am nosy, involved, failing, troubled, lonely, confused and I do not know why I am that way. I care because I just can't stop caring. I don't care if you care or not.
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      Feb 21 2014: Pabitra,
      So, am I to understand that you possess some personality.... thing.... you're nosy, involved, etc. and you can't stop caring. OK. I can live with the fact you don't care if I don't care. Most will agree with you.

      What I am trying to say is, I have a finite amount of emotion to invest. I want to invest my emotion in those situations where it will be well received and well used. So, for example, should I care about race.... a lot of people are for and against in highly agitated states on matters of race. But, I don't care. I can't do anything about someone's race or my own. Yet, There is an entire business model in the USA in race. People are living well going around and talking up race.
      But, my pragmatic side says that to agitate a great number of people in caring one way or another in matters that are without plausible solutions or change is counter productive and wasteful. Do I care, am I emotional? No. Would I take actions to end such practices... Yes, because I am practical and appreciate order not waste. Maybe, I would get some emotional satisfaction... a little.
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    Feb 20 2014: Firstly there is only one race it is called Human!
    (Asian, African, European and even Neanderthal or nationalities NOT different races.)

    So way care about things you can't control or effect?
    For the same reason we learn history, so we can make wiser decisions of thing we can control.
    Think of it as improving convergent thinking, the more you know the more connections you can make.
    Plus it can be a divergent thinking training, via getting you to question the premise of new information.

    Always question the so called experts, LOL I wish I had a dime for every time a doctor had been wrong about my health.
    I’ll give you example of something I just discovered yesterday watching a video on Viking history, I have been doing my ancestry and being about 25% Scandinavian learn their history has been helpful.
    To my point: They have found bent sword in Viking graves, general thinking is that they did it so the dead could not use them and come back from the dead and harm the living.
    But yesterday watching a different video on Germanic tribes they say the dead were cremated and put in urns and their sword where bent and placed into the urns.
    So what the true reasoning, I’m not sure but I do know the expert are only guessing.
    And I have found many other such false assumptions, (I could write a book) effecting my ancestry and how I see myself.
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      Feb 21 2014: Hi Don,

      Anthropologists are supposed to be the experts, they came up with the 5 race thing. There is a story about how a anthropologist professor gave the races the color reference to help students keep them straight. Who knew.

      But, we can learn history or any subject without emotional involvement.

      I would bet money that the doctors who misdiagnosed you were much less emotional about it then you.

      Your new found knowledge of historical burial practices of your ancestors, interesting! It may have satisfied some curiosity but do you really care how Vikings were buried? Does knowing this bring some deep emotional relief? Ok.
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        Feb 21 2014: Here is an article you may find interesting. "Biological differences among races do not exist, WU research shows"
        By Tony Fitzpatrick
        From the article: "Race doesn't matter.
        In fact, it doesn't even exist in humans.
        While that may sound like the idealistic decree of a minister or rabbi, it's actually the conclusion of an evolutionary and population biologist at Washington University.
        Alan R. Templeton, Ph.D., professor of biology in Arts and Sciences, has analyzed DNA from global human populations.
        Using the latest molecular biology techniques, Templeton has analyzed millions of genetic sequences found in three distinct types of human DNA and concludes that, in the scientific sense, there is no such thing as race.
        In fact, genetically, you can tell from sample DNA whether the subject is male or female but NOT whether they are of a particular "race."
        Templeton's paper, "Human Races: A Genetic and Evolutionary Perspective," is published in American Anthropologist, an issue devoted to "race".
        Robert W. Sussman, Ph.D., professor of anthropology in Arts & Sciences, "The folk concept of race in America is so ingrained as being biologically based and scientific that it is difficult to make people see otherwise," said Sussman, a biological anthropologist. "We live on the one-drop racial division --if you have one drop of black or Native American blood, you are considered black or Native American"
        The irony& reality is that this "one drop of blood" can tell you nothing about the individual's race.
        But hey, I thought you didn't care anyway... ;)
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          Feb 21 2014: Laura,
          Don't misunderstand what I am saying, Anthropologists are as I understand it, are the scientists that divided humans into different categories for whatever purpose it served them. Today, too many people get emotionally involved over this race and that race. I don't believe there are any real differences in people either and I am getting bored by people who seem to be fixated on these differences. That is why I don't care.
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        Feb 21 2014: I have several areas that I’m passionate/enthusiastic about, good health, puzzles, gardening spiritual growth, and more. And research my ancestry has been one great multifaceted puzzle, that is entertaining and great for mental health at the same time.
        Before my ancestry hunt I spent many years looking inward seeking The meaning of life type puzzles, and grown past feeling emotional stress and thus feeling deep emotional relief is no longer part of my life.
        I guess I feel pride in making connections other miss, I’m doing something good for my long term mental health, and I believe DNA carries more than physical traits also emotional and mental traits. For example my quirky since of humor matches that seen of newscancook shows, despite my ancestors came to America long ago. (1633-1820s) plus I love gardening, foraging, carpentry, etc. just like many of my ancestor I’m just not learning about.

        Personally I have no interest in pop culture, so I understand where you are coming from.
        So I suggest looking for connections, it is not only fun the search is mentally healthy. (Helping to prevent several old age memory issues and even physical disabilities.)
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        Feb 23 2014: Mike,
        " I am getting bored by people who seem to be fixated on these differences. That is why I don't care."

        If you truuulllyy "didn't care" you wouldn't have brought up the "fact"(?) that you don't care because then you wouldn't care enough to even comment about "not caring." *chuckle* =+} ;)
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          Feb 23 2014: You think that way deep inside, I care a little bit? Am I so shallow?
          You probably are right on both counts