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For beta testers for TED 2.0, let's have a conversation about what's good and not with the new website.

I'd like to get in touch with other beta testers so that we may talk it out among ourselves.

Here's a previous Conversation about it that Fritzie reccomended.

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    Jan 18 2014: There was a thread on this in November, I think, started by the TED staff. That thread was launched immediately when the TED 2.0 was unveiled. You might want to link above to that thread.

    What I wrote then in comment was that I couldn't evaluate the modifications made for mobile devices, because I do not view TED on mobile devices. I wrote also that Conversations is more cumbersome in the new version. As an example, at that time, at least, when you went to a person's profile, one could see the person's comments but not the threads to which they responded.

    As I do not use a mobile device and do participate in Conversations, I continue to use the old version, which has better functionality for my specific patterns of use.

    I do not know whether there have been modifications since that time.
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      Jan 18 2014: Thanks Fritzie, this was really helpful!

      I don't use mobile much when surfing either so I have no opinion about that.
  • Feb 17 2014: I just switched over to the New TED and NO Conversations were found.
    I had sent my daughter a link to this Old TED and so I followed it to here.

    Being an old person, I find no comfort in new ideas that go nowhere.
    I received for Christmas a new Gateway computer with Windows8 that quickly was
    replaced with Windows8.1. It turned out to be an App Sales Store for Microsoft.
    I long for XP

    The world is being pulled out from underneath us old folks. What the hell happened?
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      Feb 17 2014: Frank, to find TED Conversations in the new version of the site, you have to go to the link that says Participate and then within that to Discuss. That is where Conversations is.

      I think the old version of the site is much more convenient for those who engage in Conversations, so I use only the old version.

      If you want to switch back to the old, I don't think you can do it from the conversations page, but if you go to the Talks page, which is a recent rebuild, at the bottom of that page there is an option to return to the old
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    Feb 6 2014: I think that the old website is already conveniently Familiar - it does not force you to do extra "thinking" looking for some new navigation, and punching new links

    Dealing with these new arrangements might be disturbing for a very busy person like me. I like only subtle changes.
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    Jan 23 2014: While I love the entire TED site the conversations (you might call them forums) are my favorite part along with the comment threads on talks. That seems to be a major point of TED, the discussions that follow talks or just discussions on ideas, suggestions, debates, etc.

    Maybe more formal live discussions!
  • Jan 20 2014: It tries too hard to be "friendly". Just the facts for me. I want text-based navigation, no bells or whistles. "Friendly" layouts invariably get in the way of use.
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    Jan 18 2014: What I'm really wondering about is what direction (if any) TED Conversations is going in. I'm not even sure that they're going to keep it since they seem to have issues on how to handle it.

    I've asked TED about this many times and I've just received a standard answer like "It's still undecided" or "We are working on it" nothing more. When I've made further inquiries I've been left without a response.

    Also, doesn't have a single reference to TED Conversations...

    So, are they going to close Conversations because they don't know what to do?
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      Jan 18 2014: I assume the answer you got that the matter is still under consideration is correct. Organizations often choose to focus on what they see as their strength. I expect TED is most pleased with its offerings and curation of talks, of bringing its physical audiences together, and its broad offering of food for thought at no charge to anyone with a computer.

      if you look at, say, Apple, they make some products and not others. This wouldn't mean they think other products are not valuable to potential consumers but only that they want to focus on doing the best they can with their specialty.

      Many people at certain points in life try their hands at many subjects and trades but then focus on on a set of areas they choose to develop fully and expertly.

      There is a principle in organization called economies of scale and scope. Economies of scale captures how big an enterprise should be. Bigger is not always better. There is a reason one doesn't typically find a single restaurant or barber covering an entire city block.

      Economies of scope captures the question of what portfolio of related offerings an enterprise should include. Should the publishing house, because it uses lots of paper, also run its own paper mill or is it better off to rely on others to make the paper, others with whom it may have temporary contracts or less formal connection?

      I could see TEDs deciding to retain a forum, as many sites maintain a forum to connect their customers. And yet when you look at TED's audience there is a giant audience for talks and very few are also involved in Conversations, because they have so many avenues for the kind of conversation they prefer , not only online through communities of which they are part but also in the workplace and professional communities. The lion's share of their customer base is conversing privately, I should think.

      So without any knowledge of what deliberations are taking place, I can imagine some of the considerations.
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        Jan 18 2014: "So without any knowledge of what deliberations are taking place, I can imagine some of the considerations."

        So can I and I think that they might be off track of what's really needed...

        You also said "Organizations often choose to focus on what they see as their great strength"

        I think that you are right on all the things you said Fritzie, but I also think that the general sentiment that most companies have is wrong and unfulfilling for them. TED should of course focus on Talks much, but they should also focus on the Web a lot more then they are doing...

        Instead of trying to make their greatest strengths even stronger, they should focus on fixing some of their greatest weaknesses.
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          Jan 18 2014: It is typically difficult to judge well what may be most fulfilling for others. Many participants in TED Conversations lament having been pushed and prodded toward things others thought would be fulfilling for them rather than allowing them to be true to their own passions and visions.

          Whether to focus on strengths or on greatest weaknesses is, indeed, a choice. I am glad Einstein and Feynman focused on their strengths, as our world is better for their having made that choice.