- Basil Tarasov
- Lutsk
- Ukraine

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## How to become a mathematician?

I live in Ukraine (Eastern Europe) and I want to became a mathematician so I have some problems. I don't know what I have to do. I'm in 11 grade( It's mean I will study in uni in 2014). I don't know, many people say we don't have a good education in uni. I understand I have to study math by myself.

Problems:

I don't know about math society. All we need to talk with people about hobbies, but I never meet people who like math.

I guess Ukraine bachelor+master+phd(some university in Ukraine don't use USSR system since 2006) in it's not enough to be a really good mathematician

What should I do?

"According to Frances Cairncross (in April 2010) "Ukrainian education is too inward-looking, too corrupt and too poor to do a good job".[14] According to Anders Åslund (in October 2012) the best parts of the Ukrainian education system are basic education in mathematics and science; but the quality of doctoral education is bad, particularly in management training, economics, law and languages.[15] He also signaled that the greatest problem in the Ukrainian education system is corruption"

You may read about this http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/why-ukraine-keeps-falling-behind-educationally-economically-313833.html

P.S. I'm sorry. I guess many people ask this question this, but I really don't know.

## Krisztián Pintér 200+

## wayne uejio 30+

1. realize what you are learning in High School is mostly based on what the ancient Greeks knew up to Newton

2. realize what you learn in undergraduate ( apply to a reasonable school for math) was developed in the 19th century.

3. Graduate school is when you specialize and really start moving into the modern era.

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## Robert Winner 100+

Sometimes we have to accept the options we have. So here is my non-math input. You quoted what others have said and it may or may not be true. In Lutsk there must be professions that require higher math ... like engineers, architects, CPA, etc ... ask their opinions as to the correct path and how their experiences have helped or hurt them and learn from their experiences. Is your goal to teach or to enter a field that requires higher math?

There are options to assist you .... I personally like the Khanacademy.org. Their lesson plans guide and assist you through all of the steps from 1 + 1 to calculus.

In Lutsk there is a organization called: Organization for Educational Resources and Technological Training (ORT). I found it at: http://ort.ru/en/projects/current/proekt-ort-keshernet/

I once read that there are circles that meet ... you may want to seek a science or math circle .... as the professionals in your area for help locating these and the meeting places.

Sorry I cannot offer better advice. I wish you well. Bob.

## Jimmy Strobl 50+

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo19Y4tw0l8

## bart hsi 10+

The first stage is easier to prepare and, for some people, could learn most of these topics by themselves without going through formal school work. You could go through these by taking instructions from internet courses. Even though it is hard to believe, I myself self studied all the courses from Trig. to Differential Equations without the help of internet (because there was no internet whatsoever 60 years ago). If one is good in mathematical reasoning, one could understand the formulas and keep and derive them from 3 or 4 basic theorems without memorization. Similarly, one could derive the derivatives of many expressions from the basic idea of the derivative. There was a talk about this in last year's TED Talk about the differential calculus.

However, most of the second stage must involve couple of experts in any sub-field, as well as some hands-on experience is necessary. For business management sciences, the U. S. universities are perhaps the best, For engineering, Germany will be more appropriate. And if you are more or less interested in pure mathematical theory, the the Russian institutions are eminently qualified.

## Abdul Rahman

1) Learn or memorize all the basic equations(trigonometric, etc.).

2) Practise more & more questions.

3) Don't be afraid of solving any kind mathematical question when you are asked to do so.

4) Depend less on calculator & internet but more on your brain.

If you follow these steps, I am damn sure you would be a good mathematician.

## Jimmy Strobl 50+

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## Robert Galway 50+

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/

http://www.ams.org/home/page

http://www.mathnet.ru/?option_lang=eng

## Jimmy Strobl 50+

And Nuberphile on Youtube is really great! https://www.youtube.com/user/numberphile

Also Vihart is also really great, if you can keep track https://www.youtube.com/user/Vihart

Edit: And the biggest community for math interested people that I know of is http://www.reddit.com/r/math It has just above 100'000 subscribers and there's usually around 200 people there at any given time.

## Fritzie - 200+

If you cannot get a decent university education where you live and cannot move, I would look into online options. But I honestly think you will do far better by taking university level courses than trying to self teach yourself what it takes to become a mathematician.

As you are a high school student, you might look at EPGY, which is Stanford's online program for high school students and CTY which is the equivalent, but with lower admissions requirements, from Johns Hopkins University.

You will be unlikely to become a mathematician by taking courses from Coursera.

## Basil Tarasov

## Fritzie - 200+

If you are in eleventh grade, you may well not have done any math yet that resembles what mathematicians actually do. Art of Problem Solving can help supplement you in this respect.

You might also look up whether any math circles meet in your area. The idea of a math circle hails from Russia. Most mathematicians from that part of the world start in math circles when they are younger than you and are brought along by professional mathematicians who give their time to bringing along the next generations.

Math circles have existed in other parts of the world for only about ten years, I think. The opportunities for recreational mathematical activities have really boomed in the last twenty years, because so many young people are interested in doing more than classroom work.