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Keith W Henline

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If corporations are people, as the Supreme Court has declared, can they run for President or perhaps Senator?

How long will it be before the President nominates a corporation to the Supreme court? Ex-CEO's already hold many high offices in the government and when they retire they are almost assured a position back with the corporation usually on the Board of Directors or better yet as a lobbyist.
I only thing that I find more absurd than this ruling is that the American people did not immediately start proceedings to remove every justice that voted for it.
Tillman Act of 1907:
"All contributions by corporations to any political committee or for any political purpose should be forbidden by law; directors should not be permitted to use stockholders' money for such purposes; and, moreover, a prohibition of this kind would be, as far as it went, an effective method of stopping the evils aimed at in corrupt practices acts. Not only should both the National and the several State Legislatures forbid any officer of a corporation from using the money of the corporation in or about any election, but they should also forbid such use of money in connection with any legislation save by the employment of counsel in public manner for distinctly legal services."

My, how things have changed!!!

America, are you getting Fed. Up? Me to- here is a short 3min. video I made that demonstrates the problem and offers a solution:
http://youtu.be/I2KR0bPa92M

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If corporations are people, as the Supreme Court has declared, can they run for President or perhaps Senator?
The Answer is: YES, if the government changes the rules and they are changing the rules in their favor all the time. Who is "their"? the government once belonged to the people but ownership has been hijacked by the corporations for many years now. "We the People" Allowed our Government to be sold to the highest bidder and along with it our land, water and the air and all our natural resources and along with it our children's money and future.

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Closing Statement from Keith W Henline

Our government once belonged to the people but ownership has been hijacked by the corporations for many years now. "We the People" Allowed our Government to be sold to the highest bidder and along with it our land, water and the air and all our natural resources and along with it our children's money and future.

At the present time corporations cannot run for office but to change that congress who is visibly controlled by corporations can simply change that law also as they already have so many other laws that used to inhibit corporations.

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    Dec 8 2013: I'm afraid the only thing that's absurd, Keith, is your understanding of the law.

    Corporations are equivalent to people only to the extent that they can enter into legal contracts, own property, sue and be sued in the civil court, and be taxed. Corporations cannot vote, cannot hold office, and have no civil rights, just to start. Only people, not corporations, can be charged in the criminal court, because it takes the action of a person to break the law.

    I looks like you've put a great deal of unguided thought into this without bothering to do a little research on the Internet, and it's lead you to make a reactionary and foolish post on TED.
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      Dec 8 2013: TY for your reply Lawren.
      "Man’s law is not just, it is just law"- Keith W Henline
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      Dec 8 2013: it is absurd. just like the concept of a "legal person" is. presidency or contract, the only difference is that you get accustomed to the latter.
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        Dec 10 2013: I thought some of the Presidents actions of the past were scary but The Supreme Court even considering this scared the hell out of me but I thought No way on earth can this even have a remote possibility of passing. Then the City of Los Angeles unanimously passed a amendment against it and I thought well someone has some sense in this country. Then BAM it hit like a dagger into my heart, the Supreme Court declared that corporations are in fact "people". The corporations have finally purchased the "Supreme Court" to go along with their other trophies: congress & the White house. I should have saw it coming when the Attorney General was held in Contempt of Congress and still just thumbed his nose at them!
        Pretty hard to beat that hand I would call that a "Royal Flush".

        There is only one way to beat a royal flush, do you know what it is??????
        I'll give you a hint: do you remember the movie "War Games"?
        What is the only way to win a war game??
        The Answer: DON'T PLAY WAR GAMES
        You cannot win a war games, both sides always lose.
        You also cannot beat a game where the other side gets to make up the rules in their favor(like government does).
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        Dec 10 2013: Do you see that little flag in the lower right hand corner.. If you feel that way use it and they will evaluate it, I am sure. The only thing even resembling a name is George W Crazy which as we are all pretty much aware of "does not exist" at least to my knowledge. A TED member no way. However if you would like to have it, it is available...
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        Dec 10 2013: Um, what member? I don't see it...
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        Dec 10 2013: I don't see any "personal" attacks in this post, although it is amazingly political and is written in such a way that it most definitely could stir up a lot of aggressive posting. I would say that I am surprised that the TED staff allowed it to be posted, but I am not considering the left leaning bias of this site.
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          Dec 10 2013: Yep, we're mostly lefties... And non-believers... And smart... Mostly...
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          Dec 12 2013: @Jim S....Are you positive that smart belongs in that string ?
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      Dec 10 2013: By the way Lawren, you may be a little surprised about how much I know about the law. I have hired 8 lawyers in my lifetime and fired 6 of them, then represented myself. I have never lost a case and in fact turned every case into my favor. I am not a lawyer although I have studied corporate law in college where I was on the dean's list and when representing myself I go well prepared. I am also not a doctor but I know more about my own body than any doctor does.
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        Dec 10 2013: What surprised me was that you misunderstood a Supreme Court decision made in 1819, and spoke as if it was a new development.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood

        I'm also highly disappointed at haw much you've edited your original post since my first answer.
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          Dec 10 2013: Well Lawren it got your attention didn't it, that was the purpose, I don't fault you for jumping in with both feet, in fact I admire that. I read all the wikipedia stuff long ago but I still believe they had it right in 1907 with the Tillman act. I love wikipedia also and finally sent them a donation after using them for years. I am just as much against politics from a religious pulpit as I believe in separation of church and state. I edited the post because after it got a little attention I didn't want to dilute the focus of the conversation and I figured rightly that the people who were really interested like you would hang around to watch were it goes anyway. Following my logic is not always easy as I like to blow it wide open for all possibilities and then narrow it back down to a simple solution if there is one. Good work Lawren I hope to see more of you.

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