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  • MR T
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Are there any human behaviours that can't be logically derived from selfish gene promotion?

We do it with animals in biology all the time, we study animals and realise that the more closely related they are, the more likely they are to help each other. So why, if humans arose under the same conditions (evolution) should we treat ourselves any differently in study?. Arrogance?

Take sharing between friends, one friend shares with another in a time of excess, so that in a time of inexcess the other might reciprocate. This way both fair better than they would alone. Could this be a 'selfish' act?.


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    Nov 18 2013: I'm afraid that the profound answers can be found if we pay good attention at the environment, and surroundings.

    Animals are way more "real" than we humans in terms of reacting within manmade artificial conditions. Animals in captivity may look "stupid" not responding to artificial, unknown setups/ "tasks", they often get easily ill. We may not be sure at all about the correctness of our research or experiments regarding animals that we keep and watch in cages, depriving them of natural resources in wilderness.

    Our manmade contemporary environment of colossal crowds triggers our naturally built-in "defense mechanism" (not the same meaning as the term , defense mechanism, suggested in psychology). When we become too many, pushing one an other - this mechanism begins to work aggressively, even against our morals. Lets not forget the power of environmental conditions that change our behavior and eventually our genes.
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      Nov 18 2013: I get your first point, that animals are clever in that they are suited well to their environment. We often study animals with bias, by measuring their performance in tasks suited to survival in our society.

      Your second point lost me a bit, you suggest that its recent, rapid change in human society that is the cause for immoral actions? Chimps kill each other, as have we, for as long as human history has been documented.
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        Nov 18 2013:  What I mean is that our human kind when compared to animals, can kill, torture, easily deprive others of what does not belong to them with no need for it, but just for the sake of some made-up "idea" or "belief", or abnormal desire. Unlike animals we, humans, devour way more than we truly need…

        However, Separated from natural environment and its vitality, living in dense crowds of the cities, in concrete cubicles of "homes", we deprive ourselves of natural emotional exchange that keeps us healthily alert and in touch with reality. We have difficulty to recharge ourselves, starving emotionally, and even while consuming a lot of processed food our bodies are suffering malnutrition. Therefore, the majority is needy to play artificial games, behaving irrationally spending endless money on artificial intertwinement of all sorts, developing sickly habits. (We intuitively feel better when we bring a living plant or an aquarium with playful fish to our workplace, to compensate for that emotional starvation in concrete jungle.)

        We become very selfish within cruel environment of our social and industrial systems, which are designed to treat everyone as a non-existing collective prototype. Our systems are violating our unique charachters - a gift given by nature to every living creature. I trust that our "defense mechanism" reacting aggressively and way more aggressively that if we lived in wilderness. Our society is very poorly "designed" and needs major change.

        I'm sure, there is some truth in what you are seeing in "selfish" genes. In my modest opinion Our environment that we create for the sake of our very questionable "safety" and "comfort" plays a grand role in shaping up our characters and behavior.

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