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Gerald O'brian


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If the cure for mortality is found within your lifetime, would you go for it and become immortal?

On the one hand, we're not made for eternal youth. And one could argue that knowing life is short (or just limited) is what makes it worth living. And perhaps death is a major spiritual part of life, whether you believe in a soul or in a metaphorical one.
On the other hand, how is aging yet not another disease? Dying at age 80 is no more a "natural" death than being eaten alive by a bear or killed by malaria. In fact, "old age" is probably the most unnatural cause of death, statistically. So all that's probably just a cultural habit : diseases are evil but aging is good. Another point is that, well, things have changed. Perhaps our new environment makes it suitable for immortal youths.
And of course, becoming immortal only means that you die when YOU chose to die.

So would you go for the injection or not, and how do you rationalize your decision?



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    Oct 28 2013: Gerald... no human being can ever become immortal physically. Immortality as detailed in Bhagavad Gita of Hinduism always belonged to our true inner self... our soul atman, the spirit within! Belief or not... we were primarily a cosmic traveler that in its lifetime manifested a chain of 8.4 million bodies to cleanse self of dross impurities within.

    Human form is the highest manifest stage in cosmic life cycle. It was only in human form one reached stage of enlightenment... kaivalya jnana in Hinduism! Becoming an enlightened one means gaining immortality forever. The moment an enlightened one left mortal frame... one gained moksha salvation forever to enter kingdom of God (Vaikuntha in Hinduism).

    The present human form could at best be lived for a maximum of 250 years... theoretically 300! A normal human being as per scriptures of Hinduism was destined to live for hundred years. If we reduced our heart beat from 72 to 25 when we were only a kid, one to 2 years of age... we could increase our average age from hundred to 275 years at the most!

    Many yogis in India lived a life exceeding 200 years. Workings of spiritual world were not in hands of mankind. One can establish control over life only by travelling path of pure spirituality detailed in BhagavadGita. As a human being our goal of life must always be reaching cosmic end of life, 8.4 millionth manifestation at the earliest! Only then one could gain immortality forever. Mahavira (24th Tirthankara of Jainism) did that and so did Gautama Buddha. Followed Jesus Christ and Prophet Mohammed! More on Bhagavad Gita - http://www.bhagavadgitasummary.com
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      Oct 28 2013: "Many yogis in India lived a life exceeding 200 years"

      What for, though?
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        Oct 28 2013: The only purpose for a true Yogi living beyond stipulated hundred years of life was to reach God in present life. Living life of a recluse in deep dense forests of Himalayas... such yogis (travelers of spiritual path) all the time contemplated on God Almighty. Their indulgence in abstract truths of life resulted in reduced pace of their heartbeats.

        The goal of a true Yogi never was prolonging life but reaching cosmic end of life, 8.4 millionth manifestation... stage of enlightenment (kaivalya jnana) and finally salvation moksha.
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          Oct 28 2013: Some claim to reach God in a sip of beer in the summer, on the cheek of laughing baby, and eating roast pork with your bare fingers while taking a bath.
          Others say it's easier to live as a recluse than to man up and deal with a wife and kids. Where's the "I'm-a-responsable-parent-and-citizen" Yogi? I mean, if you really want to impress God...
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        Oct 29 2013: Yogis who abandoned their family midway never truly achieved anything on spiritual path! Srimad Bhagavad Gita advocates pursuing path of yoga (meditation) to reach God while living in family. Such a Yogi as per Lord Sri Krishna was a spiritual aspirant of the highest order. King Janaka (father of Sita in Ramayana) did exactly that. Even while taking care of his family and kingdom... he as a King indulged in affairs of his kingdom nishkama karma way, never attaching self to fruits of karma performed at all stages of life.

        Siddhartha Gautama in his pursuit for abstract truths of life left his family midway. Neither living in the family nor living as a recluse did Gautama Buddha reach stage of enlightenment, prime reason why he finally advocated precept of middle path. As per scriptures of Hinduism karma could not be burnt that way. The dross impurities within a soul atman, the spirit within can only be negated by following path of nishkama karma yoga. In the present Kali yoga, to reach God... one must never abandon one's responsibilities of physical manifest world... no matter what!
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      Oct 28 2013: Vijay,
      Who are the yogis who lived a life exceeding 200 years? Just the names would be fine.....I'm not interested in the promotion of your religious beliefs.....thanks:>)
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        Oct 28 2013: Colleen... In Hinduism there was not one but many cases of yogis living beyond stipulated age of hundred. In Hinduism scriptures... everything rotates around reaching end goal of life. The methodology, path carried absolutely no meaning. I have yet to find a single person in whole Western world who could understand the true meaning of enlightenment as stipulated in Bhagavad Gita. Everything in Hinduism scriptures was based on absolute faith, not literary proofs that were never forthcoming in field of pure spirituality, prime reason why none other than Jesus Christ gained enlightenment in West. Contrary to this, not hundreds but thousands reached stage of enlightenment in erstwhile Bharatvarsha (now India).

        Knowing names was meaningless in Hinduism scriptures. Our scriptures, historical documents were full of such details. One had to believe in teachings of BhagavadGita and God to realize abstract truths of life. On path of pure spirituality... we had no other alternative!
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          Oct 28 2013: Like I said Vijay, with all due respect, I am not interested in information which promotes your religious belief.

          Apparently there are no names....no record.....no proof that anyone lived beyond 200 years.....thanks.
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        Oct 29 2013: Immortality relates to spirituality... not religion! For a traveler of spiritual path, proofs of people living beyond 200 years of age carried no meaning. I personally do not indulge in religious dogma. If I ever come across religious people (ritualistic in nature) who believed in the fact that a guru was essential for spiritual journey and may carry with them requisite proofs of age of their masters... then I shall let you know.
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          Oct 29 2013: Vijay,
          Immortality relates to spirituality and/or religion FOR SOME PEOPLE. You relate immortality to a spiritual path, and that is your personal belief. Many people DO NOT relate mortality/immortality with spirituality or religion.

          In a previous comment, you wrote..."The present human form could at best be lived for a maximum of 250 years... theoretically 300"..."If we reduced our heart beat from 72 to 25 when we were only a kid, one to 2 years of age... we could increase our average age from hundred to 275 years at the most"..."Many yogis in India lived a life exceeding 200 years".

          When you make those kinds of statements, it would be helpful to have some kind of proof, rather than speculating, based on your religious or spiritual beliefs.

          I believe scientific research tells us that the human body has the potential to live to about 120 years, and I think there are recorded cases of people who have lived to that age or close.

          It looks like 122 years, 164 days is the longest recorded life span.

          With all due respect for you and your beliefs, there is a theory "out there" that says the human body may have the potential to live 1000 years. It seems to be a theory that is not well supported.

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