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Should we let homeopathy be?

The biggest dilemma for me is that placebo is proven to work better if the physician also believes he's giving real medecine. In this view, homeopathy is the perfect placebo. Even the people making it, through laborious dilutions, have GOT to believe in it, or their high school knowledge about chemistry would make it tempting to skip the whole process and make more profit selling sugar.
It's even got quantum mechanics watching its back, losing the more curious ones in complexe explanations about just how complexe liquid water is.
And of course, the idea is fun. Like cures like. 1/1000000th of a molecule of ethanol to cure a hangover.
Sure it's tempting to ridicule the whole industry for the billion dollar quackery it is. But one might actually find that it's saving a lot of healthcare money, and that it WORKS! And it works because we let it, because we don't ask for double-blind tests...
So what's your view on this? Is homeopathy a cheap way to heall the credulous? Or has it gone too far and is part of what makes the transition to the age of reason so darn slow?

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  • Oct 22 2013: This is what the homeopathy skeptics are fighting to maintain:

    http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2013/06/19/study-70-percent-of-americans-on-prescription-drugs-one-fifth-take-5-or-more/

    This is what homeopaths and their patients are fighting to maintain:

    “The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston – The US department of alternative medicine followed the cases presented in Corfu with lab trials using Banerji’s homeopathic medicine on cancer cells at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center (MDACC) in Houston. Dr. Sen Pathak, Prof. of Cell Biology & Genetics, at the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, collaborated in this joint research between the PBHRF and the MDACC. The research work is now complete and published. An in vitro study with the medicines has shown brilliant results in killing brain cancer cells while activating the normal cells. The paper entitled “Ruta 6 selectively induces cell death in brain cancer cells but proliferation in normal peripheral blood lymphocytes: A novel treatment for human brain cancer” was jointly published with Pathak S, Multani AS, of the Department of Molecular Genetics, M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, USA., in the October 2003 issue of the International Journal of Oncology. (PBHRF and the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, USA conducted jointly an in vitro research study on the effectiveness of the medicines Ruta 6 and Calcarea Phosphorica 3X in destroying brain cancer cells while activating the normal cells. The research study was published in the form of a paper in the October 2003 issue of the International Journal of Oncology.)”

    http://www.ayudacancer.com/foro/viewtopic.php?id=7778
    The illusionist James Randi was challenged by a world renouned homeopath Dr. George Vithoulkas of Greece, but Mr. Randi backed out. James Randi Backs Out of Challenge with Homeopath George Vithoulkas

    http://www.naturalnews.com/025627.html
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      Oct 22 2013: Do you believe in a conspiracy against homeopathy, then?
      • Oct 22 2013: Will the Top Skeptic "Amazing Randi" Be Federally Indicted in Florida? By Tim Bolen
        Sunday, October 23rd, 2011

        “It's looking good for that. Hooray. I'll explain below. I have absolutely no use for the group that describes themselves as "Skeptics." The group, made up, I believe, of life's flotsam and jetsam, inhabits the internet after a minimal training at some skeptic conference teaching them how to be even nastier, sleazier, human beings than they were before they found the organized clutter based out of Amherst, New York. This group is reinforced by a five foot tall moron who calls himself ‘The Amazing Randi.’

        http://www.bolenreport.com/feature_articles/Doctor%27s-Data-v-Barrett/RandiArrested.htm
        • Oct 22 2013: Ad hominem, a common fallacy involving attacking the speaker instead of his spoken words.

          I'll readily describe myself as a skeptic, and all I want to see is some proper scientific evidence. You could attack my character all you wish, it has not logical implication on what I'm saying.

          Let me list a few other things I'm skeptical about, to show you that you too are probably skeptical, at least about something. I'm skeptical concerning the 9/11 truther movement. I don't think the global Jewish banker conspiracy is real. I don't think there was a great flood of biblical proportions where only a small family of humans and a pair of every animal survived in a wooden box.
          Skepticism isn't a dirty word. Its merely asking to see evidence rather than believing everything you're told without proof.
        • Oct 23 2013: Nadav --

          I recommend that if you want to see studies you do some research on your own. You will many of them at:

          www.homeopathycenter.org/research
          www.extraordinarymedicine.org
          www.hpathy.com

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