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Is it part of human nature to have a hierarchy?

This question was mainly inspired by my history class. We were going over some Russian Marxists, and I thought it was interesting that even a communist regime will have a leader. This brought up the question, "Is it natural for humans to have a leader?" I thought about any organization and realized they all have a decently-defined hierarchy. I also thought about our cavemen ancestors and the sort of familial hierarchy with the father as the provider of food and safety (I haven't really studied anthropology, so tell me if I'm incorrect).

Feel free to ask clarifying questions, and I am looking forward to your responses!


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    Oct 16 2013: Side note:
    - A society can only function, if the values of that society support its operation. In a society, where self gain and competition are rewarded virtues, the ruling ideology will tend to uphold it as "A part of human nature". Just like in a slave owning society, the general world view would be that slavery is inevitable and a part of life.

    Our society is built on self-interest and competition, and one of the consequences of this is of course social hierarchy (class division), among many others.
    • Oct 16 2013: Hello Huey,
      Don't you think our society still supports the interest of the group? We do still have schools, rules of the road, free emergency care for the poor, although tea partiers want a new order that seems only to value self-interest and competition in certain areas. They do not want to compete for votes.
      Even Gerrymandering is a group and not a self-interest, but the group is using it to manipulate other citizens for the benefit of that limited group.
      People are fighting for societal benefits, such as Obamacare and Social Security, which we all agreed to pay for so we could later benefit from them, but since that's where the easy money is for raiders, they're being targeted. Like leveraged buy-outs being legally permitted to steal people's earned pensions and worked and contracted for health insurance.
      Unfortunately the self-interested are very loud and stupid right now, and cannot seem to see that gutting the social contracts we have fought for for generations would impoverish American business and destroy our safety nets, thereby destroying our real safety. Creating a whole generation of desperate poor is a very dangerous thing, but there are a lot of childish and ill educated congressional boobs who have been allowed to control things they don't understand.
      Anyway, people in general know that self-interest quickly destroys social cohesion and then everything heads towards chaos.
      We have systematically allowed competition to dry up in business. There are only two real operating systems for computers, for example. And only a few airlines, a few oil companies, a few huge pharmaceutical giants, and the rules limiting media ownership have been trashed.
      What are we going to do about it?
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        Oct 16 2013: You have to start small, and start, at least partially, within the current system. Use the system to give you the power to make the changes you want to make.
        • Oct 25 2013: And as you are gathering the money and power necessary, hope success doesn't change you enough to make you stop wanting to change things for the better for others.
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        Oct 16 2013: ill give you simple example:
        The United states offers healthcare, but you have to have money in order to obtain medical insurance, and hence have the qualities of good health, but remember, it is not free, why? because the insurance companies need to make a profit, and if you don't have any money, well then too bad for you, you can go die because your not worth any value in the "economy". - This is the true nature of society where competition and self-interest is the foundational incentive.

        You can talk all day about the great things the market system can offer like schools, transportation, "rules" or law (which is a tangent i don't even want to get into right now), but at the end of the day, the only thing allowing those institutions exist, is the potential profits that can be earned, and profit will always come before a persons well being. Tell me why majority of students coming out of university are drowning huge amounts of debt? oh yea, because the companies that loaned the money to them in the first place doesn't give a shit about their education, their looking forward to the interest payment/profit they earn from the student, or i should say millions of students.

        So yea, our society does not consider the actual well being of people, in fact the well being of people will always be secondary, if not even in the equation of making a profit, that's just nature of business, and hence what is rewarded. .
        • Oct 17 2013: We're messed up, but we're on a financial pendulum shifting back and forth between the good of people and unearned profits for business.

          Right now it’s cranked all the way over to give banks and schools every benefit versus students.

          A brief history of the Student loan debacle:
          1) Banks got Fed to insure all student loans.
          2) Banks got deregulated so they could loan more to lousy schools & students who might never finish or repay loans. (And home buyers who were never able to repay mortgages). Schools that were flooded with loaned up students raised tuitions. (Home prices skyrocketed)
          3) Bush got bankruptcy law changed so student loans could never be voided. This should have taken a constitutional amendment, but no one’s challenged it that I know of.
          Bankruptcy is a constitutional right and also in the bible but most people don’t know the student loan restrictions are anti-biblical and anti-constitutional. And pro-business = anti-person here.
          4) Great and lousy schools pushed more students into higher debt, driving tuition ever higher.
          5) Students became poverty stricken forever.

          This piecemeal revamp of the student loan programs didn’t raise any pirate flags that would surely have flown high if all these changes took place at once.

          Student loans should again be voidable in bankruptcy and students whose educations were substandard should be able to sue shareholders, officers and directors of their schools, which shouldn’t be able to declare bankruptcy to avoid liability. That’s a pendulum swing I’d like to see.
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        Oct 19 2013: "We're messed up, but we're on a financial pendulum shifting back and forth"

        This is the definition of insanity- doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
        Look back at every decade. This is the final rope we are on here with this. Technology has become too advanced to keep up with.
        • Oct 25 2013: Certainly technology seems to be moving too fast for humans to keep up with, although kids growing up with it may be all right.
          It's massive disruptions like climate change that seem most pressing. We can see from the mega storms and flooding and droughts what we're doing, but so far we don't know how many volcanic eruptions are being hurried along by higher world temps and what other disasters are in store. I think Russian and US companies want to melt enough to open the northern passage by water and to access any oil, nat gas and minerals under the glaciers.
          Hopefully technology is aiming at the right problems, even if a lot of Americans are playing ostrich.

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