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How is it possible that God is 'Love'?

Everything in the natural world, or even the known universe, is competitive. Kill or be killed. Eat or be eaten. Human's most successful means of progress is competition. Win or lose. Succeed or get left behind. Do or die. Even stars and planets are created by violent fusion. Only the strong and competent - in any system - survive. Yet, we 'believe' that God is 'Love'. But where in the natural world is 'love'? Where in the universe is this love? Since we cannot 'see' it or identify it outside of human experience, and if it exists, where is it? Surely if God is Love, then His/Her creation should reflect it, shouldn't it? But all I see is violence. The wolf kills the deer. The bear kills the fish. The croc eats the human. The virus attacks the cell. The star explodes. Why have all of the major religions concluded that God is love? It seems obvious that God is not love, but God is 'Survival', or God is 'Violence', or God is 'Victory'. Because if God were love, then everything would be lovers, and the animals would commune, and the planets would 'birth', and our human problems would be centered around getting something done and getting out of bed because we'd be too busy loving each other - not killing each other. So, how is it possible that God is 'Love'?


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  • W T 100+

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    Oct 11 2013: No matter where man lives on this earth he finds beauty, whether it be in the great tropical forests or perhaps in the majestic snow-covered mountains in different areas on earth. Then there are the beautiful clear-blue waters and white-sand beaches of the tropics and subtropics, as well as the great plains covered by flowing golden grain. Or there are deep-blue lakes and beautiful green pine forests. Yes, even the barren deserts have their own peculiar beauty and charm. And we all delight in seeing the starry heavens on a clear night, do we not? Not only are the stars magnificent to behold, but they also provide guides for man in his travels. So they have a practical value too.

    All this is a reflection of God's love for us, his human creation. He made it for us.

    Humans have chosen to either accept that fact, or deny it. Some struggle their entire life trying to find convincing evidence to believe in God and to accept he is truly loving.

    A time will come when the Earth and all it's inhabitants will be at peace again. Will we live to see it in our life time? Perhaps?

    I sincerely hope you find an answer to your question that fills your heart with peace.
    Sometimes we ask ourselves questions that go unanswered for a really long time, and all the while we had the answer there, in plain sight, the entire time.

    Be Well RH.

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      Oct 12 2013: Thanks Mary for your well-wishes and for responding. I wish the same for you and all the other participants of TED -and everyone else for that matter. But I don't think you've answered the question. 'Beauty' is not love. What we find as 'magnificent' may evoke love within us, but does not necessarily define the fundamental plan of life, or 'God's' plan. Can you cite any example of love, as a fundamental motivation for survival and success in life, in any of creation outside of the human experience? Also, if God created everything 'for us', then we have the 'right' to decide what to kill or let live for our own benefit, per our interpretation of God's dictates. In that system, I would not want to be any other creature than human. Here's an example: Let's say it's not humans that God made creation for, but it's lions. Lions eat your children because they have interpreted this is God's will. The lions say this is the love of God, and God is love. How does that work for you? Lastly, why does this question infer that I need my heart 'filled with peace' (don't get me wrong, it's a wonderful sentiment and I'm grateful for your offer of it), or that I may not already have peace? I find peace in truth, and I asked this question to the TED audience for a rational explanation of it regarding this subject.
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        Oct 12 2013: Don't read too much into what I wrote.
        I just meant that I hope you find a satisfying answer to your question.

        I'm sure you will find it here on TED.

        {edited to add a line from a poem}

        I came across this line in an article I read last night.
        It is from a poem entitled 'Prodigal Son' by James Weldon Johnson

        Young man—
        Young man—
        Your arm’s too short to box with God.

        Thought I'd share it. :)
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          Oct 13 2013: Thnx.

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