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Is full-time, full employment a realistic aim in Europe?

The processes of offshoring and automation seem to be consuming more and more jobs in Europe (I imagine this will soon be true of most of the world), especially in the industrial sector. I often hear that 'new types of employment will appear' but never what those jobs will be. Does anyone have any more concrete predictions?

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    Oct 7 2013: Not that long ago Full-time employment meant 60+ hours of work time per week, then it was discover 40 hours made for better more productive employees.
    So I predict full employment will be redefined, from work hours to fully productive. And that Europe and the world will always need “all” people to be a productive as possible. The current problems comes from too many people not being productive, not from too many being productive.
  • Oct 7 2013: A general point first: I'm not sure it's necessary to define 'full employment', since different people have their own ideas. I'm happy to accept any definition (I understand they usually range from 0-13% at any given time). My own feeling is that we passed 'peak employment' years ago, and it's all downhill from here. Am I wrong? If so, where are those jobs going to come from?
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      Oct 9 2013: As long as there are things to be done, new items to be gotten there will need for full employment.
      Deep sea mining for rare metals, floating ocean cities, holistic management ranching has only start to reclaim the deserts, and more needs to be done before people can stop working at their peak.
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    Oct 7 2013: Wikipedia has an excellent article on "full employment" - it's not a simple concept. See I think the key issue here is what to do with people who would like to be employed but can not find a good job. Economies are cyclical and structural unemployment ensures that there will be people without jobs, The only solution I know of that has worked (multiple times) is that government should guarantee a job to anyone who otherwise can not find a job. For example, public works projects can put people to work. There is significant economic theory behind this, but the bottom line is that it seems better to put people to real work rather than to have them live on the welfare dole.
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    Oct 6 2013: For years we had "Full Time Employment" in the USA. I was considered to be a 40 hour work week with benefits that would be defined in your contract. Along came Obamacare who redefined the work week to 30 hours and everything changed.

    If you have a defined "full employment" stop your government from interfering and be glad for the work. If you break the contract for any reason I can assure you that the path to regaining anything is long and hard. Even the unions who supported the administration are now finding out how much has been lost and the workers are not happy. This has mostly been caused by our leaders not reading and understanding a law they passed in the blind. The lack of transparency is not just isolated to the USA.

    My advice to you is to get involved .... don't drink any koolade that you have not evaluated independent of political claims.

    Don't buy into the blame game ... it is not always the other guy ... automation ... etc .... do your own thinking.

    Good luck. Bob.
    • Oct 7 2013: Thanks but I don't need good luck; I still have a job. I'm thinking about those who don't but are being forced to look for one by cuts in unemployment and punishments for long term unemployment. Is that not an unnecessary cruelty at the moment?
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    Oct 6 2013: Along with Krisztian, I think defining your terms will be useful, as people use these terms differently. What do you mean by "full employment?" Also, when you ask about full-time employment, are you asking whether Europe should aim for everyone who works to be working full-time (is that 40 hours per week in Europe?), so that, for example, there would not be any people who are engaged in non-paying activities (going to school, child-rearing, artistic endeavors...) part-time and also working part time?
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    Oct 6 2013: i would challenge you to define the term "full employment". i mean, a deep definition, that is, defining any terms that come up in the definition and are not obvious.
  • Oct 6 2013: If its not then how will anyone ever be able to get a bank loan for a house?