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Shubham Mittal

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Do you really think school kills creativity ..???

Everyone always wants to say that, but I think creativity rests within the person. School doesn't make up all of a child's day, so whether they want to expand they're creativity is solely up to them. In most schools, art Is a mandatory class. So to blame the schools for a lack of creativity is more of a way to push of the responsibility of generations of people who weren't interested in helping themselves and they're children become more creative.

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  • Oct 14 2013: Creativity is something that can not be killed by any institute and any other thing if someone is interested in something. On contrary if you are getting education in good school then it will draw out really good thing from your insid.
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    Oct 14 2013: I think it's too harsh to say that "school kills creativity".

    In some way, there are some learning methods in school that could kills creativity in their student. For example : The image that teacher always right, and if a student has a different view from the teacher, the student is wrong.

    But it didn't literally kills creativity. It is up to the students whether they decide to practice it in their daily life or not.
  • Oct 4 2013: I think,
    of what most kills creativity, is the mechanics concepts of the binary answers, the "yes or no".
    You are wrong or right, correct or incorrect, better or worst.

    In a example:
    In a need to know if the children is learning, the schools makes questions
    to the students to see if they hold that knowledge.
    It reveals the students who learned more.
    Of course, when you are correct,
    you are better than the other who answered it wrong.

    Well, is that really obviously?
    The way that each one learn is a little different to the others, maybe much different in some cases.
    The concept that the correct answer is better, is the real deal.
    It could be, or could not. And why not the two things at the same time?

    (Imagine a school)
    if I had make a question of "What color is the sun?"
    This class(with 3 kids) is teaching 3 colors this day; blue, yellow and green.
    The answers was:
    Bryan: "Yellow"
    John: "Green-Green"
    Robin: "I dunno."
    ...
    Should be easy to us make the judgment that just Bryan got it right. Right?

    Surprises...Robin remember a remarcable trip with her dad,
    they saw a beatiful sunset and the sun was red(diferent from the yellow).

    And Jonh?
    Green is kind a strange, most of the teachers(also you and me) would say he's wrong and that is it.
    Think if Jonh is daltonic? Still makes no sense, because daltonic only confuses red with green.
    Neither that do not explain "green-green", but Jhon uses to play with his father's oil ink and he remember
    the orange color made by using red + green, and he thinks the sun is orange.

    Who knows? Who is better?
    Who is more creativity?

    This short story i've made is to explain that, the creativity is there, and we can
    kill it in the moment we create the ideia of someone as he has to be, not what he is.
    It do not happens just in schools.

    Each one of us is a lot creativity, in different ways.
    What happens is that we forget it when we start the concept of better.

    There is no better, just different.

    Thanks.
    xD
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      Oct 8 2013: Great point.

      School, like everything in the past decades had been suffer from the contamination of the industry era and the needing for production scale up. Like everything, schools and even universities had turned out to be a knowledge factory, and like every factory they were concerned about the production.

      In this way, schools were tracing their way to improve the quantity of the students they can support. In a time when mostly people didn't had even the choice to study or not, it was quite reasonable. But now, it is not.

      What you see in the old ages can be the opposition of that. Teachers were called mentors, and they usually have a few or just one student. Otherwise, only a few people had this choice in their options, maybe only the royalty or something like that. When the teaching starts to follow up another rules where everybody could (or should) have the opportunity to study, things became to change. The professor that could do well with his pupil, now have to teach for a class with, sometimes, a hundred or more students. See how this is really similar about the industry revolution and how the handcraft turned into the standard industrial craft?

      Actually, what happened is quite the same about the production model and the teaching model. Students that were handcraft, now are crafted into lots with a standardization.

      What today schools really kill is the unique and personal creativity of the individual. Now, they produce creativity in lots too.

      Exploring the diversity of life is a key-factor that we were missing for a long time, but now humanity is back to this subject. And it's not about the diversity of species, ecosystems and so on. It's mostly about the diversity of the human being itself and how we challenge life.

      But things are gonna change soon. We just need more believers and change-makers to put the plan into work. Actually, we already now that something is wrong. This need to be just the start of something great.
  • Sep 22 2013: I think the risk is that often students do not see the bigger picture and contain themselves in an educational box where the goal is to get an A or later to get a job. Universities still are trying to train students how to think not what to think. Even in the face of a professor's lecture which is presented in a "This is the only way to think," one stays stuck in the box only if they accept that they must accept only that person's ideas. This is not about blaming some side on this issue. Some students get it and use what they learn in application while others learn in an effort of replication.
    We go to school to learn what other people who thought outside the box came up with so that one day students will learn how I applied what I learned to come up with something new, smarter, more valuable to the world. Some shrink away from this opportunity and their creativity isn't killed it is (in their belief) not required. Of course there may be some truth in these cases, "Use it or lose it."
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      Sep 23 2013: I agree with your statement that universities often train students "what to think". I have worked at a university which, in course papers preparing first year students for a biology exam, ridiculed those who held a differing opinion to that being taught as fact in the papers. It would have taken a brave youngster to have spoken out against the tide, and it wouldn't have been one who had only the educational curriculum as a teacher. He or she would most likely fail to pass the paper under such conditions. I listened to the TED talk by the young man with Aspergers who this question seems to be related to, and what he said about the reasons why men such as Einstein formulated their theories makes a great deal of sense. They were forced to stop learning and were able to think.
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    Sep 22 2013: I think it depends on the schools and teachers.
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      Sep 22 2013: Yes. A friend of mine learned by itself a better way to solve math at high school, and in a test the teacher gave him an F because he didn't use what he learned in class to solve the test.
      Too bad for high schoolers. :(
      Luckily in the university teachers appreciate if one is more intelligent or capable than the norm. ;D
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    Sep 22 2013: I wouldn't say school kills creativity--but from my experience--it doesn't 'encourage' it. I have so many examples--I helped out at a daycare facility through college--kids were coloring pictures and a girl colored her sky pink. The teacher told her that was the wrong color. She looked crestfallen. I said that I'd seen pick skies, and purple, and orange. But the power of the teacher was great and the little girl picked up the blue crayon.

    I went to 18 different schools by the time I graduated high school, so I became really good at being the new girl. And my grades suffered, especially math. Only thing I was good at was English. I was a fair artist and drew pictures with my reports. My classmates and I thought it was funny that I usually got a C on picture report with my name on it--yet, when I drew for their reports--they got A's and B's.

    I wrote feelings down since I was was 8 years old...later realizing they were poems. In high school I wrote a poem and my teacher refused to believe it was mine. She kept asking me who wrote it.

    In college I was so busy cramming facts in--and regurgitating them out--that I had little time to be creative--and it takes time. Later I worked for the University of Maryland overseas and took an art history class and we toured Cambridge. In St. John's college in Cambridge--there was a tree in the back that was supposed to be a relative of the apple tree Newton sat under while discovering gravity. You see, in the United Kingdom, time to contemplate is scheduled into their curriculum--I doubt Newton would have discovered gravity in the USA.

    None of this killed my creativity--but it made me doubt it. Doubt me--and made me very self-conscious about showing my work to anyone. Other than reports, I didn't show my writing to anyone until 20 years later. Now I'm published, and wonder if it might have happened sooner--if my creativity had been celebrated, championed, and encouraged.
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      Sep 22 2013: I think it's entirely dependent on the teachers you end up with; luck of the draw unfortunately.

      P.s. Did you ever watch the Simpsons episode where Bart brings a snowflake into school for 'show and tell'? His conclusion was that this completely unique and fascinating crystal, becomes a boring droplet of water just like any other when you bring it into the classroom.
  • Sep 22 2013: No.

    I agree with you, schools in general and education in general does not kill creativity.

    However, there are some solid arguments that being led in one direction for learning prevents a level of self-educating through personal discovery, and looking at things differently than how they are being taught in school. In public educations, there is some resource balancing and time management balancing done to get the best effect for all students. Ideally, there would be more tailoring of education to permit individual discovery, research, and answering the questions they want answered.

    There are other players in education that can add more creativity. Parents enriching a child's overall educational experience with supplemental experiences and training opportunities. The child can take the initiative and learn on their own the things they want to learn. They can also learn form each other, and pretty much all they observe. So creativity, might be reduced by some facets of the current education process, but overall what is being done has evolved as the best blend of material, methods, resources and opportunities for the next generation. Creativity is just one of the trade-offs.

    Perhaps professional educators will continue to study the mew ideas, methods, and technologies and continue to evolve the education provided children into a continuously improving product.
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      Sep 22 2013: Public school does. Public schools are where sheeple are trained to think alike, look alike and act alike.
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        Sep 22 2013: I am guessing you do not/did not go to public school, then?
  • Oct 21 2013: I believe that this world that we live in can be very confusing. We are all different. Teacher can see this in our beggining years and they teach all as one and teach us what they think we need to be taught. At one time we were all untaught and ignorant. We had nobody to teach us. This world we have created we created wth ignorance and built up ideals to fite our needs. And the teach us there knowledge. They dont teach us to make up our using our technichs, They teach us theres. WE need to form our own opinions based on our own intellect
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    Oct 18 2013: What is needed is a pedagogy that promotes creativity, innovation and problem solving in our schools. Right now our education system focuses on producing "machine parts" that will easily fit into the "machine" (structures of the society). Our education system teaches us about the world like it were a well oiled machine that is running perfectly and we just need to know the facts about it so that we can easily fit in. It doesn't make us thinkers who will innovate new technology and ways of doing things that will make this world a better place. This is of course an overgeneralization but I don't think I am very far off. Those who have taken the ownership of their own education have prospered in this system (as they would in any system) but the majority of the students suffer the consequences.
  • Oct 15 2013: There are some great videos from Sir Ken Robinson, in which he speaks on this issue. Take a look at them and maybe his talks will lead you in the direction in which you want to go.
  • Oct 8 2013: Think it depends upon the teacher and the principal. Good teachers allow the child to grow and express themselves. I have seen teachers berate and humiliate a student in front of a class, this can be especially a problem during middle school where the influence of the peer group is growing. It might take years for the parents and other teachers to get the student to open up and try again. sometime it is never.
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    Sep 25 2013: It varies on school to school and child to child... if school has its oven framework to suppress the curiosity of children then it will kill the creativity of kids for sure! if school is like this life (experience it to learn it) then its not ! But you'll be agree that many kids learn when taught in a way (within framework).

    Schools are to help children's creativity but since all children in a class have to follow the same rule (framework), it is fail to give a 100% result in terms of helping their creativity...

    In my opinion, school must be there to help children. I am not against schooling ,, but every after 3 years, a kid must be examine by experts to help him/her to choose a new school according to ability to creativity. :)
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    Sep 24 2013: School definitely kills curiosity in many children, as it imposes on them a framework to have to learn things they happen not to be currently interested in. This framework extends school hours and therefore influences the overall development of our children's curiosity.

    And as curiosity is key to creativity, school does damage it as well.

    Neither curiosity nor creativity can be taught, yet both depend on an encouraging an stimulating environment for them to strive. If half of the day keeps numbing this nurturing environment, the second half may not be enough to make up for this damage.
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    Sep 23 2013: Yes! Industry-age schools have been proven to kill creativity.
    http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_changing_education_paradigms.html

    Personally as a recovering victim of US public education, I feel all teachers should be place on trial for high crimes against humanity.
  • Sep 22 2013: Generally many teachers follow the lecture, homework, test with a minimum of dialog and questioning. Creativity occurs when students think, question and discuss. Think the educational system is designed to force students to give standard answers - Hence limiting creativity.

    Let me say something off topic I have seen a teacher berate/shame a student so much that she crawled into a corner and never said anything in class again. She begged her parents to never send her back to school. I am sure we have all heard stories like this, some less, some worse. I know some will say this is a rare occurrence but how much is one student's self worth, love of learning worth. One occurrence is too much.
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    Sep 22 2013: Actually that depends on the type of school that u study at and teaches as well. If you want to have a good education you must study in a private school but that will cost me a fortune. Even if you study at a public school, some teachers are really great. Teachers could inspire their students and instill in them confidence and creativity. It depends on the school and the teachers.
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    Sep 22 2013: Candidly speaking, it really doesn't depend on school or teachers, rather I believe that it depends upon the individual itself. If the individual has the craze to be creative, then he is going to innovate even from the cracks in the structure.
    I agree to the last part with a little amendment and that is: though individuals vary in different aspects but this difference itself fulfills the purpose of being running behind the same aim. They are different and yet this difference makes them similar. So, for a fraction of second, the generalized question like this is of little use but for the other half of the second, this generalized question can be used to draw out fruitful conclusions.
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    Sep 22 2013: Whenever there is something that "everyone always says," it is useful to apply some real critical thinking of your own to it rather than simply accepting an idea because it is popular. I appreciate your independent-mindedness, Shubham.
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      Sep 22 2013: Thank you for your appreciation , obliged :)
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    Sep 22 2013: To a larger extent, it doesn't. However, it do limit your creativity by bounding your thoughts to certain requirements of the structure that you are a part.
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      Sep 22 2013: That really depends on the school, the teachers, the patents, and on the individual.

      That question is often legitimate, and often an excuse for wanting to diddle around, rather thjan to try to learn how to live within a society.

      Humans vary so much as individuals, societies, and in time, that a generalized question like this is of little use.
  • Oct 18 2013: I think it depends on diffferent systems of education.At my school,sometimes teachers give us conclusions before we do any experiments.That is too bad.
  • Sep 30 2013: What if instead the center of our cities around the world was places where we traded ideas and experience? Giant work halls of education! Others of celebration! Festivals Music, Art..science Sharing ... and so on

    Now our cities are based around places to spend money, Our schools are created around this concept, That we will become consumers. We learn very little in schools compared to our true potential

    I think the way we have schools now should end and instead we will create great halls of innovation, if someone is curious about learning how to make a robot, she goes to this place, and if someone wants to learn math he goes to that place. And he will be able to chose a teacher that shows him how it is best way for him to be taught

    I dont think it is as simple as schools kills creativity, our parents , our cultures, our schools, our religions and our media and so on, the world around children does somehow force a halt of imagenation and freedom, thus creativity.
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      Sep 30 2013: Many cities do embrace the idea of a central place to trade ideas and share experiences, with cultural events at the center of it.
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    Sep 22 2013: "Our appalling education system does very little to encourage children to develop their own opinions - but, conversely, does a great deal of brainwashing to convince them to keep quiet about any opinions they do have, save those mantras of political-correctness they have been bullied into submitting to."
    So the answer is; Yes, it frequently does! Schools spend far too much time telling young people what thoughts are 'unacceptable' and 'inappropriate.' They judge children according to how well they conform to what is expected of them. It's a disgrace!
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      Sep 22 2013: This depends very much on where you go to school.