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Is our intelligence a continuous stream of connected photons and our human body just a focus point?

In that scenario the mind is real and most everything else is an illusion in which case anything that can be imaged is possible. So why not imagine a world with less destruction and violence from mankind.

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    Sep 15 2013: I believe that everything starts with a dream Raymond, and I have been imagining a world with less destruction and violence since I was a child. I think/feel for the concept to work well, we need enough people to imagine the same thing, and apply the idea in our everyday lives:>)
    "BE" what we want to "SEE" in our world.
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      Sep 16 2013: From what I have seen violence can produce a momentary high but leads to extreme dread for everyone involved. Why do it? Its time to stop playing cowboys and Indians.
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    Sep 26 2013: If that were the case, I would start imagining not being a human at all... far too imperfect.
    But this doesn't seem to work, and we are 'stuck' with what we call reality.
    A good way to get a better world seems to me to improve it in the best way you seem fit (while consulting other people when doing so &c &c).
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      Sep 27 2013: Anything we do must include everybody. That means no preferential treatment. Its funny deep down we all want the same things; love, freedom, to be involved. The problem is we listen to others telling us we need more.
  • Sep 23 2013: Raymond, a very deep question you have thought of ... im no good at this but ill try.
    My view is that intelligence has to come from a physical body. It just doesn't pop out of nowhere. So in my view, it is a physical body that generates a continuous stream of connected photons (intelligence) that serves to benefit the organism that generated it in the first place.
    The body therefore is not just the focus point..anymore, .its both the body and the mind.. so why not imagine a world with less violence? it depends on the type of mind and what direction it wants to take. If the nature of mind is to be simply be intelligent it wouldn't be a question of why imagine a world without destruction. Unfortunately the nature of the mind is to benefit itself.. and therefore to satisfy itself. The path to satisfaction is not about just about being intelligent... destruction and violence can be satisfying to some.
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      Sep 27 2013: I don't see the mind being made of atoms. Quantum physics says things do seem to pop out of nowhere.
      • Sep 28 2013: the mind i assume is made up of the stream of atoms/photons whatever you may call it. Its the organization of these forces that forms the mind. Not the atom itself.
        In the same way we can cause a computer to process information like a human mind... there is no real conscience.. but the only reason why a computer can process information and "think" like a human is because of the electron flow over the electronics.
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    Sep 16 2013: I'm not sure it follows that if the mind is material every thing else is an illusion.

    I suggest imagining followed by some planning and communication and work might help make the world peace full not just imagining.
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      Sep 17 2013: Imagination leads to action. Just look at the violent games and movies. Peoples action stemming from someone's else's imagination on the screen.
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    Sep 15 2013: The world's visually impaired people will probably disagree with your connected photon theory of intelligence.
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      Sep 16 2013: The photon spectrum contains more than just light and color. It also contains radio waves. People who cannot see have a much greater perception of sound then people who can see.
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        Sep 16 2013: The eardrum is not excited by photons. The electro-magnetic energy must first be converted to physical vibrations which activate the hearing process. There is no connection between "connected photon streams" and intelligence.
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          Sep 16 2013: What if the eardrum is not real but something we imagine as a way to physically explain how we perceive sound in a physical world.
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        Sep 16 2013: RE: "What if the eardrum. . . " One thing you can not write-off to imagination is the intense, excruciating pain you will experience if your eardrum ever gets perforated. There is no connection between "connected photon streams" and intelligence.
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          Sep 16 2013: Could the pain be the eardrum signaling the mind that it needs attention.
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        Sep 16 2013: RE: : "Could the pain be. . . ". No. Pain is non-existent without the mind. The pain is the mind signaling the injured person to seek treatment. There is no connection between "connected photon streams" and intelligence.
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          Sep 17 2013: Within the spectrum of photons/light are radio waves. Photons have no physical properties. So could it not be that we perceive sounds via something we can imagine as being physical.
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        Sep 17 2013: RE: "Within the spectrum. . . " You ask, "could it not be. . . " An affirmative answer to a question so worded indicates: "Yes, it is possible that it could not be." One could also say: "It is not impossible for it to not be." It follows then that since it is possible, but not certain, for IT to not be, then IT could be. Since "IT" represents your assertion that the hearing process is based upon no physical sensations or vibrations but upon imaginary probabilities only, then the process could not be studied by the Scientific Method. Without empirical data no predictive experiment could be designed; no observation performed; no comparisons of data performed; and no conclusions reached. Epistemologically the world of imagining is invisible, immeasureable, and void of information. Imagine there being no justification to continue this line of investigation.
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    Sep 15 2013: we must prove the unprovable for maybe we turn into the maxim
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      Sep 16 2013: Proof is not far off. Quantum physics is proving it.
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        Sep 16 2013: imagination need life for to be proved.
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          Sep 17 2013: Life is merely a point of common focus.