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Has any action been taken here, TED conversations, rather than only conversation?

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    Aug 15 2013: Every action is preceded by a thought.

    Imagine actions without thinking.

    Only conversations have averted so many potentially disastrous actions.
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    Aug 17 2013: For me, what we talk about here leads to conversations and interactions elsewhere as well as affects my overall philosophy—which will affect my decisions. A lot of it depends on the particular conversation, but I think that in general these conversations indirectly affect our decisions about important or difficult matters. In the equality conversation, I will most likely approach future problems, debates, and laws regarding equal opportunities, rights, etc. with a slightly different mindset than before the conversation. This can lead to many other effects (voting; where I choose to live, go to school, donate my money).

    Hopefully that was a sufficient answer!
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    Aug 22 2013: "people look for the right team of people with the right mix of skills for the task at hand. They typically want to know each other well enough to build trust and to feel they can hold each other accountable."Yes, I firmly believe there is a dieing degree of trust in the world today. There are many topics here in TED that could and should fall under this category. I believe many are unnoticed this is why I have added the word should. I believe it is becoming a cultural "norm" which is ...uh, not good.

    "Some people want to spread the word about something. This may or may not inspire others to action, depending how compelling the case relative to other courses of action and the priorities of the listener." I have spread what I and many others believe is the right thing. There are many cases to be heard and observed but I feel as though many believe they can not help change anything about this because it is a major money generator for those in power.

    " in general these conversations indirectly affect our decisions about important or difficult matters"
    If we choose to allow them to do so. See below (influence).

    "conversations here have potentiality to influence those in a positive way - by informing, raising awareness, challenging your own worldview or the worldview of others." Exactly, to influence in a positive way in order to put to action eventually like spreading what is either right or fair in a series of sequences. We spread our experiences from all over the world.

    "This would enable a reader interested in a topic to see what contributors were thinking, reduce the number of repeat discussions covering the same points, and perhaps create an idea synergy where several thoughts seen together on a subject generate some new thoughts." I believe if a topic is repeated a certain number of times they should all be collaborated and remain open for discussion at any time. This would generate more than just a conversation.

    Thank you all for the inputs.
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    Aug 20 2013: If this is within the scope of your question, you might want to look at some of the TED talks that put forward a prototype for action, something they have tested on some scale, and read in the comments whether people indicate a commitment to getting engaged in something similar in their own communities. Stephen Ritz with his Green Bronx Machine, or Ron Finley with his South LA edible gardening are examples. Sugata Mitra's School in the Cloud is another.

    I am guessing that people are most likely to implement ideas in the context of projects with which they are already engaged. For example, ideas in talks about education likely find their way into thousands of classrooms. Ideas about motivation, such as Pink or Ariely, likely find there way into business and organizational settings.

    I think these are the most common ways TED ideas move into action.

    Other sorts of professional development, if you will, follow a similar course. When managers of private or nonprofit organizations read Harvard Business Review or Stanford Innovation Review, they bring those ideas into their professional settings. They pursue such professional development more, probably, in order to enhance their work and activities than just for pleasure.

    Of course others read and listen more for pleasure and to stay informed of what sorts of experiments are being tried, creative work being produced, and research undertaken by people with the commitment, talent, energy, and resources to pursue the work.
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    Aug 19 2013: If a conversation changed my perception, then it has made me avoid doing stuff and made me do others. Those count as actions.
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    Aug 17 2013: It depends what you mean by action.

    If you mean congregating and planning an endavor, then maybe not, not in most cases, I believe. TEDsters are spread all over the globe which makes it quite difficult.

    Action, however, doesn't necessarily mean taking it to the streets or starting organizations. Action is every single tiny thing or decision that you take every day and conversations here have potentiality to influence those in a positive way - by informing, raising awareness, challenging your own worldview or the worldview of others.

    Conversation is a catalyst for innovation.

    No action should be undertaken without consideration and discussion.
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      Aug 18 2013: I had just finished watching "Monty Python, Life of Brian" before posting this question. I haven't seen this movie in a very very long time so I did forget the whole movie practically. There was a scene which made me realize I am "challenging the worldview of others" and how to go about doing so. Well, I had already realized this and I could easily relate to it even though it was very comical.

      I want to conquer the world [evil laugh]! I can't do it alone and I need your help :) Is this too optimistic? Ha, is this too much of an achievement? I have never been an overachiever so if I look at it in this light then I will be satisfied if I could help change only one view in this country. I want to change a rule that myself and many others strongly disagree with. I'm tired of talking about it. You know what this is. I want the government out of my backyard when it comes in choosing what is best for my children and taking away my rights as a parent or to even restrain me from see them. There is no proof I am "unfit". Not too much to ask for, eh? I feel I am stuck in a very expensive shady pissing contest scam I didn't want any part of. I could do a better job if I did stumble upon conquering the world. :) Everyone would dress the same, in uniform (all the time). Everyone would be told what they could or could not say. Every home would be the same color. No woman could drive a car. You all would live in fear BUT orderly. I could go on but...You do sense the sarcasm do you?

      A song with a good vocal melody...what do you have in mind, Anna?
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        Aug 20 2013: Which scene in Monty Python in particular?

        When it comes to your personal struggle - I've no idea what to say or what advice to give, I don't know you or the situation. You've probably tried everything from legal advice, appeal, counselling and such, maybe also media? You might want to adjust your image before going to Dr. Phil though ;-)

        When it comes to your dystopian system . such societies exist today and certainly do not make life of counscious creatures better.
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          Aug 20 2013: The scene where they are siting at the table and come to understanding all they ever do is sit at the table an talk about overthrowing the Romans. I'm too lazy to figure out how to search for that particular scene.

          Yep, tried everything. I scramble. I clutter an inbox and may be annoying at times (actions) :P. Dr. Phil can't help fix the scams of the deep south where maggots turn to butterflies; :P I'm not the maggot either. I just may add on to my image, I see more potential and room available for adding on. You don't know me? Sure you do and I know a little about you as well.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQOB8K5zqXM

          Forks in the road, forks in the road, forks in the road.

          There is a reason about the one from Andromeda that I shall not accept. I pretend I have not heard it.

          Study time for Whiskey Delta. I'm at a high angle of attack.
          At high angles of attack the boundary layer may separate from the body (the upper camber of the wing) which causes a dramatic decrease in lift and an increase in drag.
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        Aug 20 2013: Now I'm confused. Is Alice your band? What reason?

        Anyhow, I wish you the best of luck.
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          Aug 21 2013: Anna, Anna, Anna [kiss on cheek], don't be confused. I have a wavelength communication trapezoid funnel cake problem at times. The parallels are overpowering to make just a simple explanation. It becomes... ah, not worth explaining and I catch myself being lazy about it eventually.
          Not having much to do with music anymore with a very light reason is the very reason. I don't know her that well. Alice? Don't I know...
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXImBQykV6s

          Don't take this the wrong way now, I don't believe in luck. I believe in risk and chances alone with good decision making for not only myself but others when considering these decisions. It comes across as confusing, mysterious, and misunderstood (and I'm not talking about my wavelength problem here which also adds to the confusion). This alone puts me behind the power curve and the weight becomes too heavy for the increase in angle of attack needed which in turn increases drag. I lose lift. I then have to choose what weight to sacrifice or eventually I'm forced to sacrifice what others decide is best. It's not their place. We all must come out of this aerobatic roll we have put ourselves in.
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    Aug 17 2013: Win Win Situation

    Conversations usually lead to best actions
    or
    avoids potentially disastrous actions.
  • Aug 16 2013: I gather ideas and thoughts from TED.

    My implementation of ideas occurs face to face with people I work with directly. TED is set up as a way to discuss ideas and spark imagination, but not so much as an implementation spot.

    It is an online community where ideas can be shared, refined, evaluated, and kept or junked. Then, in your own corner of the world, you do what it is that you want to do and create. Maybe, just maybe, that gets back to TED.
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    Aug 15 2013: What do you mean by an action taken here? I think people talk here and implement their ideas elsewhere.

    For example, let's say someone comes to explore ideas to reduce in-school bullying. After gathering ideas here on opinions or best practices, links to programs people know about and so forth, he may apply what he has learned at his schools or build those ideas into his consulting. He will not necessarily report back here on his successes or failures.

    If you watch thread openings, some people in their questions are focused on refining how they understand the world around them rather than seeking guidance in action. Some solicit advice or help on a project and likely use what they get here for the project.

    Some people want to spread the word about something. This may or may not inspire others to action, depending how compelling the case relative to other courses of action and the priorities of the listener.

    My favorite aspect of participating on TED is helping people advance their programs for action.
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      Aug 15 2013: "What do you mean by an action taken here?"

      We can come here and talk about, for example, how to use alternative energies all we want until blue in the face. How often is there a gathering or group of people here on TED that actually come together, unite, and actually DO it?
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        Aug 15 2013: I see what you mean. I think people will prefer to do the nitty-gritty design and implementation of the sort of projects they present here with people they can easily meet with face to face.

        Also, if you think of how initiatives get organized in the offline world, people look for the right team of people with the right mix of skills for the task at hand. They typically want to know each other well enough to build trust and to feel they can hold each other accountable.

        This is hard to achieve online, particularly among anonymous identities.

        Another matter is that TED does not, I think, draw lots of people looking for a leader to follow. TEDsters don't just jump on bandwagons but probe the person to help the person think through and articulate his proposal better. Many things that are presented in TED Conversations are still at too superficial a level to gain passionate support. Some ideas and those proposing them capture a lot of early interest, but if the leader then seems defensive in response to questions or seems only to want unquestioning followers, he tends to leave disappointed.
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    Aug 20 2013: Hey WD,

    As many have alluded to or outright stated, all it could take is for one response to one conversation to be passed along down the line and become the seed for an amazing precipitation of action. At least that's my hope!
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      Aug 21 2013: There can't be any hope or luck waiting for something to happen. It has to be visioned. There has to be a route formed and steps taken to get to the goal. One person, two, three, four... many now. Do we really believe it will fall out of the sky like rain? No, we must unite and come up with a plan of action. Where and when will the ball start rolling is the first question to answer. The extra mile, time to go the extra mile. I'm all in with what I have.
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        Aug 21 2013: I agree with you that waiting on the sidelines for others to take the initiative, perhaps, on the basis of conversations is a mostly passive attitude and one with which many people are very comfortable.

        Those oriented toward action in the usual sense can, if they are not already over-committed, be inspired to participate in an initiative with 1) a goal that captivates them, 2) a design that is compelling, and 3) a team or leadership that appears competent and that they expect will take good advantage of what they bring to the table.

        A common strategy that I would guess is seldom effective is to bring to the table a broad goal without a plan that seems well thought through. But many ideas people market take this form. Another scenario that does not work is bringing forward such a plan, typically asking for collaboration in its further development, but then showing even in initial interactions with people, that the team that has already crystallized is not of a collaborative nature or open even to constructive question.

        Anyone wanting to draw people into an initiative should reflect honestly on what is missing in the picture. It is typically not that people are irrevokably wedded to the status quo. Believing that explanation interferes with the successful crafting of initiatives people will support and to which they will commit energy.

        We have some good TED talks on getting initiatives moving. One is Derek Sivers.' Another is Seth Godin.
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    Aug 20 2013: Dear TED,
    Please allow one week of time after a conversation closes for the proposer to write a summary or conclusion for the conversation. This could be as simple as a list of those key points or as complex as prose on what the next steps should be. Then if all future potential conversations might have their proposed phase parsed and searched for through previous works so the would-be author could begin from the shoulders of giants.

    Dear Whiskey,
    Please try to summarize all these answers near the end of your time to test the idea of an action list.
  • Aug 18 2013: Good question.

    The conversations are great and no doubt generate ideas, allow people to voice opinions, and perhaps even provide different view points and perspectives on issues, but what comes of all this discussion?

    I have proposed in other conversations the creation of TEDwiki type knowledge capturing tool that collected some of the thoughts from talks and conversations and formed a duly referenced body of knowledge that was in a constant state of growth as people added to the topic. This would enable a reader interested in a topic to see what contributors were thinking, reduce the number of repeat discussions covering the same points, and perhaps create an idea synergy where several thoughts seen together on a subject generate some new thoughts. TED has the potential to do that now, if the readers are vigilant and have good memories, but something like a TEDwiki might help those of us that do not see all posts, or that just drop in from time to time.
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    Aug 15 2013: Most of us are doing elsewhere. But we are doing with a group of people that sometimes fall into group think. We come here to break out of group think and share ideas.

    This is a place for ideas and not action. It says so in the title.
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    Aug 15 2013: I think, yes many actions are taken here. People come, read, think and share an idea. No seed no harvest.
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    Aug 15 2013: I think you are excluding the sharing of knowledge and opinion from the action category. May I suggest that is not a valid exclusion? I don't think the data is kept on what "forward progress" is made as a result of TED Conversations. I imagine there are concrete examples, but they are not documented. But, even if there are no examples, the value and benefit of dialog as an antidote to ignorance and apathy is very real. Your question, or as you call it "only conversation", is thought provoking and may well lead to "forward progress". Thank you WD.