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Mandy Fisher

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Revolution! ... or peaceful protest? What is the best method for change, and why should we be talking about it?

So, you want a revolution.

Is America due for radical change? What changes would you make? How would you go about making them? What methods bring real results?

And finally, what do you believe is the breaking point for revolution/rebellion?

My opinion to come shortly.


Closing Statement from Mandy Fisher

The conversation may be closed, but the topic is only beginning to brew. Thank you all for your comments. Let's continue the conversation, and perhaps we'll find we arrive at a feasible solution.

Until next time...

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    Aug 18 2013: A government can only govern with the consent of its' subjects. That consent, however, can take an infinite variety of forms, from dumb acceptance of the status quo, all the way through to failing to defeat an oppressive regime in a physical conflict (If you surrender, you are unfortunately giving consent in real terms). I'm interested in the idea that consent could be withdrawn by gradually engaging less and less with the governing regime. Bit by bit, setting up and growing an alternative society and infrastructure until eventually the regime is irrelevant. Market economics has been particularly successful at this, growing alternate corporate infrastructures to the extent that "democratic" governments are becoming less and less influential, and have less power over them. Perhaps a similar process could be initiated putting people at the heart of its' ethos, rather than money. For the first time in history, we have the communication tools to set up societies that transcend geographical, conventional political boundaries. Some countries have already realised the potential power placed in the hands of ordinary people with mass networked communications, and clamped down on it. Other are preparing to meet this threat, by monitoring the network.
    Some time ago, I did quite a bit of research into what an alternative networked society might look like. I recorded a lot of this in a blog. www.cynapse1000.weebly.com . The arguments presented are best read chronologically. My experiment failed to reach critical mass to become self-sustaining. Prehaps the premise was wrong, perhaps my methods were wrong, perhaps only the time was wrong. I would be delighted if people could take a look and give me any feedback or comments.
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      Aug 22 2013: I checked out your website so as to be able to give you the feedback you seek. One thing I appreciate is the modesty with which you present yourself. This attitude makes people want to help you if they can.

      I assume you actually want feedback. Sometimes people come here gushing with self-confidence and ask for feedback but actually want only unthinking followers. You don't come across like that to me, so here is what I can offer.

      I think you take a strategic gamble by linking yourself immediately to Occupy and wikileaks and other organizations of this kind. There may be many people who share your interests and have their "hearts in the same place" as you, as people used to say, but do not see themselves as natural allies with the strategies of those organizations. This too is one of the downsides of trying to draw everyone interested in change under one umbrella.

      You mention here having done quite a bit of research and recorded a lot of it in your blog. The subject you put forward is vast and much studied by research groups, think tanks, and non-profits dedicated to finding solutions to these pressing problems. The TED talks you share do touch on the areas that interest you, but I think a project like you propose would draw more interest if you were to pull together something much meatier in terms of a research base or at least link to a foundation in research in these areas. TED talks are useful 18 minute overviews, sharing of ideas rather than research presentations. Some serious reading of research would probably be valuable to you.

      If you look hard at what is already out there in terms of organizations and research, you will have a better idea of how to add value to the initiatives already out there.

      I hope this is the sort of feedback you seek.

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