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Jah Kable

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Why is it OK for corporations to outsource work to countries that violate the corporation's home country labor laws?

Prime Example: Nike and Apple. Paying about 15 bucks a day to KIDS in other countries making their products so they can sell them for a major mark up everywhere. Now If they can make these products for a total of like 5 bucks, why do we pay 100-500 bucks for these things? This just seems greedy to me And seems like it could be a legitimate reason for the recession. GRRRR this is frustrating. They are hoarding so much money they couldn't possibly spend it. Letting this happen is madness. Yet not doing or saying anything is the standard "accepted" action. Like a friend told me "We don't need a revolution because that implies returning to a broken point in the cycle, We need an evolution." Yeah he blew my mind too. :D Keep it clean and friendly everyone. Looking forward to your ideas. Lets get this some traction and change the world.

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    Jul 30 2013: Because we live in a corporate neofascist state. There is no longer a functioning democracy. It is a giant staged performance, to placate the peasants, a facade to deceive the world community. The lives, and needs of average citizens, who aren't really citizens anymore, but (disposable corporate resources), have no meaning, little power, and no say, in anything, any more. Capital knows no boundaries, no law, and no longer faces the pains of (moral hazard), a simplistic outdated concept in a world where they control the legislatures, the laws, the courts, the prisons, the military, the intelligence apparatus, and the media. They do it (because they can)! Sadly their plan of defunding public education,ripping off college students on loans, sterilizing the evening news,filling the airways with hateful divisive propaganda, has done it's job. They have successfully buried the American middle class in a desperate survival struggle, and corporate confusion to the point where they're incapable of serious resistance. I hope the young people will think of the men that stormed the beaches of Normandy, and Iwo Jima. That is the depth ,and scope of the battle they have ahead of them, against the forces of neofascism, ignorance, and international cartels. Criminal thugs who will stop at nothing to control, and enslave are in charge now. I believe the analogy popular today is (WhacK A Mole) I hope i'm proven wrong. It isn't pessimism, for I have always been an optimist. It's reality.Napoleon use to tell his men; "don't come to my tent with good news until the battle is won". "If I don't know our weaknesses, and the enemies strengths, I cannot defeat them."
    • Jul 31 2013: While corporations can be made subject to laws, the punishment for violation is usually a negotiated fine. Corporations recognize only one true law. They must make a maximum profit. Fines for dumping poison in streams are merely a cost of business. If more money is saved by dumping than the cost of the fine, plus the cost of approved disposal, then dump they will. To do otherwise will actually lay management open to shareholder lawsuits for failure to maximize profits. They cannot help it, they are just designed that way. You might as well pass a law demanding leopards no attack underage deer. The same application goes to treatment of employees. If the cost of lobying Congress is less than raising minimum wages, then Congress will be lobbied. If there is some other way arround raising wages, they will take it. In the early '70's Cngress took a blind eye to illegal cheep workers from Mexico. Ronald Reagen proposed more "lega; guest workers" who could work for less than min. wage. This was supported by the lobies for the manufacturers. Those same lobbies work for pharmecuticle companies, for-profit Hosp. and Insurance co. It is a simple risk-cost-profit analysis.
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        Jul 31 2013: Sadly my friend this is our current reality. It is an abomination of the highest order. The fines levied against massive multi billion dollar companies that destroy our most precious resources amount to a slap on the wrist,and a slap in the face of the people, and the generations unborn who will deal with the poison legacy of their crimes. There should be an international tribunal to deal with special crimes across borders. Bring justice for environmental crimes specifically, with the power to seize bank accounts, and other assets. You must go after he money or they will continue to destroy, pillage, stall, and divert attention. Another abomination is to paint people like me as anti business, anti free market, leftists. That is an insult beyond description. Most people that I know who share my view are absolutely in favor of free markets, competition, hard work, all the things essential to a healthy economy. Unfortunately the powers that be in today's world, no nothing whatsoever about free markets, but a great deal about monopoly, de' facto monopoly, and bribery.
    • Aug 2 2013: I agree with you, though I think you've got off the thread a bit. If you haven't already read "The Global Class War" by Faux, I think you will enjoy it. Keep your chin up.
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        Aug 2 2013: I certainly will read The Global Class War. I'm not sure we're off thread though Clair. The old saying goes (when your a hammer everything looks like a nail) It refers, of course, to the concept of people not seeing the bigger picture when trying to fix a problem on a smaller scale. It's a problem of perception, and relative understanding. Radical misguided economists have turned theories of laissez faire into fanatical religious devotion. It's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Free markets are a wonderful concept both on paper, and in reality when and if they actually exist. Most of us have never seen one. What the models in the halls of academia, and think tanks of fools fail to equate is the massive upheavals, and human suffering caused in pursuit of profit by giant multinational entities. They do not suffer the slings, and arrows of (moral Hazard) We are awash in a system of structured systematic (non accountability) That's a fact. Until giant multi billion dollar corporations feel the heat, and are brought to their knees to bend to the will of the democratic societies they operate in, we will continue to face economic, and environmental disaster.
        These entities, and in fact all human beings do not exist in a vacuum. What they do, what they extract, what they leave for waste, all has consequences for the planet, and society. Until we force these giants to share a substantial part of the wealth they generate, we will continue to suffer, and destroy. When an entity becomes so large, so powerful, and so destructive that they become a (de facto corporate nation state) then they must be dealt with far more harshly ,and made to pay handsomely for extraction of resources, pollution, and human capital. There must be a measurement
        system to quantify environmental damage more accurately, and human suffering must be compensated fairly. Today it's a joke. They are raping us blind.

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