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Should the federal government spend $684 million on marketing ads for Obamacare?

An article in MSN Money states that the ad barrage is expected to begin before October, when people can sign up for the program. The spots will run across radio, television and social media.

The article states there are about 16% of people living in the US that are without health insurance. Government surveys state that those 16% are unaware of Obamacare and must be informed. If you have radio, TV, or a computer for social media .... you have already heard of Obamacare ...

We see the State Department spending 863 K on favorable votes on facebook and the Health Dept spending 684 Million on Obamacare ads. The purpose of ads are to influence your thoughts, to market, to sell. Is that the job of the government?

Should all laws passed have a attached budget for ad campaigns.

Should the government be involved in ad campaigns at the taxpayers expense?


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  • Jul 26 2013: How else can the word get out?
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      Jul 26 2013: George, Obamacare has been in the news almost daily for a number of years, It was a campaign issue. It is like yelling free ice cream in a grade school playground. I had never heard of free phones ... but everyone on food stamps had one.

      The fastest way to get the word out is word of mouth. I can promise you that all free programs are known to everyone who remotely believes they can get another freebie.

      I have lived in the "poor part of town" and I promise you that in a month or so there will be a "pony" of how to best answer the questions to get "free" insurance. These people have played the game for a long time. They have made it a art form we call generational welfare.

      I have been there and think you are selling them short.

      Thanks for the reply. Bob.
    • Jul 26 2013: George.
      I just tried to start a new conversation.
      The topic is a bit hot. I doubt TED will do it.
      But I hope that I am wrong.

      Too much money is being wasted in Washington DC.
      The citizens are unaware of the excesses.
      They want social programs, they elect liars, and hope for the best.
      It never goes the way they expect.
      The liars, lie to those who's votes they stole.
      Life goes on in Washington DC.
      Quid pro quo. (literally, something for something)
      • Jul 26 2013: The biggest problem is Citizens United This time the SCOTUS treats a corporation as a person but in a more harmful way. Importing surplus workers creates problems for us as well as lower wages for the employers. This is discussed in Samuelson's introductory economics text. And where is Tom Joad when you need him. They want lower wages but not to pay the taxes. Your lower wages.
        • Jul 26 2013: george lockwood 30+

          I must confess, I know nothing about Citizens United.
          So I am completely in the dark.

          I hold the viewpoint of a Health Plan Administrator.
          So spending money is plain and simple a no-no.

          The Congress will try to plug holes in Obamacare, but it will fail,
          not because of bad intentions, but because, just like Hillary Clinton tried
          to do earlier on, at the start of the Clinton Administration, those who
          decide listened to the Health Insurance Corporation's advisors.

          Using those advisors as the "Fox to Guard the Hen House"
          isn't the smartest thing to do.
          Back to our present day -- the whole of Obamacare will cease,
          Not long after the Health Insurance Corporations have milked our
          government dry, and sold to followers who will share the left-overs.
          The Single Payer Plan, if structured right, would have been the right
          way to solve the needs and pay (with taxes) the costs of a National
          Plan of Healthcare, with a government administration, for our nation.
          Obama is not at fault here. He is only wrong.
          He only wanted to give his black brothers a legacy,
          of which, they could be proud. At least he tried.
      • Jul 27 2013: Citizens United is a United States Supreme Court case that allows even more money including corporate money into political races. Other countries aren't so bad about campaigns as we are.

        Also, we all have different opinions, but I don't see the positives of the '50's '60's '70's or '80's returning in our lives. What do I mean by positives - Jobs almost universal health insurance or insurance that pays consistently.

        Other advanced countries have universal health care I hope we haven't become such buffoons that we can't do something like the German system. Which I guess the Romney Mass. system was modeled after which Obamacare was modeled after. I hope this works better than you expect. But as I get older I believe the pre-existing game is evil.
        • Jul 27 2013: george lockwood 30+ thanks for the explanation.

          I can recall not so very long ago the US Supreme Court allowing Union money
          into political races. I was a bit upset to say the least.

          But as I get older I believe the pre-existing game is evil. It truly is evil.

          I'm reading a condensed version of the run up to WW2. Europe was always
          building armies and warring. It's is like the flu. ..The US Federal Governmant
          has had the damned war-flu now for 237 years.

          But an interesting thing -- The 50 States themselves have lived undisturbed by
          strife, turmoil, or disagreement; tranquil.with one another, for 150+ years.
      • Jul 28 2013: That's generally true. but the Great Depression was during my Dad's lifetime , and was over less than a decade before I was born. That may not be as bad as a war, but some youngsters may experience something almost as bad as the alleged Great Depression. Maybe worse if the job situation gets worse. But i think what you were otherwise describing is called unfortunately "The Great Game."
        • Jul 28 2013: George, I want to make a better reply but my mind is into a history book
          about, WW1, the run up to WW2, and the WAR itself. I see parallels
          between then and now. I also see the corruption, and their parallels.

          Today's Government is trying to force citizens to accept Health Insurance
          in a 'misguided way'. ..Allowing Health Insurance Corporate Employees
          to advise and consent to, or deny Medical Care payment, in advance of
          procedures and services to be rendered, is just plain crazy.

          Doctor's Corporate representatives and Health Insurance Corporate
          representatives make decisions that benefit the Doctor's and the
          Health Insurance Corporations, not patients.

          The Patient, totally unaware, and left out, without any say in the matter.
          Usually, a phone call tells the patient to try again, elsewhere.

          the Maxim: "No Payment, No Service"
          In the park next to my apt are homeless men and women who nap
          on the grass. A few block away is a culvert beside the freeway, built to be
          used by kids with their skateboards, and now a place to camp.

          There are few jobs that will allow them to re-enter society's mainstream.
          Catch-22 of a sort.

          Many I notice are older men and women. The younger ones beg at the
          entrances of supermarket parking lots. A couple of years ago, there was
          drunkenness and dope problems. Today what little money these people
          get from welfare, is less, and the Government plans to be cutting some.
          Churches have taken up the slack. Weekly foods.
          A lifetime of servitude for a non-guaranteed education.

          American's youths are being twisted into debtors early on by the Government's
          push to provide educational loans that various types of colleges use to provide
          choices of educations sold, with no guarantees as to the value of their products.

          The widening gap of salaries between Teachers-Professors, those College and
          University Sport Coach's, and University Corporation Presidents and CEO's,
          rivals Wall Street...
      • Jul 29 2013: Yes everything is a mess. Myself and I may be alone I would have supported an expansion of medicare.
        • Jul 30 2013: Sorry for the late reply George.
          Dr.'s appointment at the VA.

          The VA's Hospital and Clinics are nationwide. It is the best system of
          healthcare in the nation. They have their act together. I have personal
          knowledge. In my last 6 months stay, I heard not one harsh word spoken
          by any VA employee to any Patient. No matter how difficult it must have
          been at different times. The care is genuine. Pain is addressed in a
          caring fashion. The Patient's Bill of Rights is upheld.

          Rather than forcing us all to toss money into greedy Health Insurance
          Corporation's pockets, the next President needs to extract us all.
          Using a whip to force poor people to purchase what they cannot afford is nuts.
          The only thing that will be accomplished, is mailboxes full of IRS lien notices,
          and some very upset citizens.

          Spending $Millions for ads is crazy, just following what Bush did.
          I still receive solicitations on Parchment-grade paper, paid for by the
          government, to get me to join one of Bush's RX pill plans.
          Every crook in the nation got on that bandwagon.
          They have milked it to death. Party time for the crooks.
          And we pay for it.

          All the time the NSA and DHS are working hard to find phone and
          computer spies to turn over to the FBI. Party time for the Federal crooks too.
          And we pay for it.

          George, have you noticed that all the Spy Agencies have 'very recently' been
          upgraded with brand new Directors. All except the Military's Spy Agencies.
          Church mice couldn't be quieter than our government.

          If you get a chance, google Microsoft's recent memo to their employees.
          read down to the center of it, to where it explains their two customers.
          You and I, and the other kind. Then google that. See if you can find them.
          I did. You may want to move off-shore. Antarctica or Australia hahaha
      • Jul 31 2013: Thanks for your note on the VA My business went under so I had my cataract surgery there. Dallas is a teaching hospital I had a great result. I no longer need glasses as I always did and both cataracts were removed.
        • Jul 31 2013: Try looking for that Microsoft Memo,
          and follow where it leads you.
          I get a little bit ansy when the Army's IA sight says
          "Do Not Enter".
          That was when I decided to shut the computer down. lol

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