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Mohanapriya Rajasekaran

Human Resource Management - Student, School of Management, University of Southampton, UK

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Do you believe in Karma? If so, have you truly experienced it?

The term 'Karma' is a one of the many concepts of Indian Religions, nevertheless it has been acknowledged across the world by many, not as a concept of religion, but as a general theme that teaches the power of good 'action' or 'deed'. It can be demonstrated by the phrase 'What goes around comes around'.

I was thought by my parents that if you do good, it will always return to you one day. But seeing the current scenario where people fight over each other for a place, fame, position etc and when you see children and women in some part of the world suffer for no bad they have done, its hard to believe Karma exists. I feel the whole concept of karma has faded in todays competitive world and would like to see a different take on it. It always good to know that 'Karma' exists!!

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    Jul 26 2013: Good question Mohanapriya!
    I believe there is an energy connection between all people, so I believe in the concepts....what goes around comes around.....we reap what we sow.....etc. I believe that what we give out, often comes back to us in various forms.

    I do not believe in the common teaching about karma.....that suffering in this life is a sure sign that we did something bad in a previous life. In my perception, this idea reinforces the idea that suffering is necessary, that those who are suffering were "bad" in another life. I believe this idea keeps people oppressed and controlled, and is not very beneficial to growth and evolution.

    I believe the human life experience is about learning, growth and evolution as an individual, while contributing to the whole. I do not believe that there is a god with a ledger somewhere "out there" who is monitoring our behavior and giving us points and a ticket to heaven or hell. I believe that how we live the human life adventure is a choice based on what we think and feel about our "self", and how we interact with others in our global communities:>)
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      Jul 27 2013: Oh wise one, you are so right again. I second all your motions and move for a vote.

      "evolution as an individual, while contributing to the whole", you are certainly in good company here John Forbes Nash one of the most brilliant minds of our time gave us the Nash equilibrium concept which states in common terms that "the best result will come from everyone in the group doing what's best for himself … and the group".
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        Jul 27 2013: Oh wise one Keith! I love to be right don't you??? Just kidding of course:>)

        I only share my own beliefs, and I also observe that there is very little information "out there" that is new, regarding how to live the human life experience to the fullest! This message keeps coming to us in various forms throughout history from sages, teachers, gurus, philosophers, psychologists, prophets, etc.

        I like the way it is written in your comment...
        ""the best result will come from everyone in the group doing what's best for himself … and the group".

        When we observe nature, we see that all creatures are doing their own thing, and their own thing contributes to the whole. For example, hummingbirds, bees, and bats are feeding themselves AND pollinating at the same time. When we (humans) grow our own food, we are feeding ourselves, AND nurturing the soil and air at the same time. The examples could go on and on......

        When we are aware of the interconnections, we are also aware of the energy of life moving in our world which can be labeled whatever we like. It doesn't matter so much what we call it....the important piece is applying it to our everyday life....in my humble perception.
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          Jul 27 2013: I also want to thank you for expressing the female view (nurturing, caring, group view), I hope I have learned that lesson for the last time. I have been expressing the male view (authoritive, singular, selfish) for so long I actually thought it was right. I think I am slowly becoming a female in spirit. Does that make any sense?
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        Jul 27 2013: Keith,
        I think/feel it is all part of the whole. We all (male and female) have the ability to be nurturing, caring, and authoritive.....yes?

        What you're saying makes sense to me, and I suggest that perhaps you are not becoming a female in spirit, but rather accepting and embracing the female part of yourself, as I accept and embrace the male part of me.

        That being said, who determined that certain thoughts, feelings and emotions are male or female?
        I suggest that it is very old outdated programming by society? What do you think/feel?
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          Jul 27 2013: I always strive to have the best thinking, the feeling part comes from practice which is a slower process to match thinking to habit. That is the difference between the conscience and the sub-conscience. In my sub-conscience is stored all the experiences of my life including a synopsis which is updated when I sleep. That's why each morning when we wake up we are a new and different person. How different depends on how much new information has been incorporated into our new synopsis. As part of the process of waking up the conscience mind retrieves the new copy of the synopsis from the sub-conscience which becomes the new conscience mind until you sleep again. The reason habits are so hard to change is because all things are taken into consideration before a change. Going on the premise that we always make the right decision for us, the fact that we made that decision many times carries a lot of weight.

          "very old outdated programming by society" You again are right, my intense phycology studies occurred forty five years ago and aside from my own observations they have not changed much. However from my own observations the decision makers in todays society by a large majority are from that era which is one reason we are progressing so slowly. That is why my message to them is move over and let the new generation repair our mistakes and guide us to the future.
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        Jul 27 2013: Keith,
        Our practices of thinking and feeling may be the difference between conscience and sub-conscience. I also think it may partially come from our societal programming? The roles that have been given to us...boys/men have traditionally been taught to think more and not show too much emotion. While girls/women have been taught and encouraged to express feelings more and be the emotional support of the family.

        I agree that we can constantly take in new information, which might be planted in our conscious or sub-conscious while we are sleeping. I think the mind/brain works out all kinds of things while we are sleeping. Maybe that's where the saying came from......I'll sleep on it! I believe dreams are produced when our subconscious is working some things out. I agree with everything else you have written:>)

        When I awake in the morning, I remember that today is the first day of the rest of my life:>)
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        Jul 27 2013: Fun.....I LOVE to explore, delve, build on conversations, thoughts, feelings, ideas, and perceptions......thank you....yes I feel it, and it's comin' back at ya:>)


        EDIT......OH.....it's KARMA!!!
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          Jul 27 2013: How would you like to help me build a town? It is called Peopletown. I started a domain called http://peopletown.org

          Realizing that I cannot build a real town yet, I thought why not build an imaginary town. In this town I want to include all the best ideas I can find to give a society as much freedom as possible with as many benefits to the whole community as possible in keeping with the Nash equilibrium concept.

          Don't answer today, sleep on it and if you really, really like the project, let me know after tomorrow.
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        Jul 27 2013: OK...that works for me because it's a beautiful day today, and I'm popping in and out of the gardens:>)
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        Jul 27 2013: Keith, it sure would have been nice if you had posted this link in my conversation on teacher appreciation......thank you for sharing it.

        EDIT......just realized you posted it a couple of days ago.....in any case, thank you so much, really nice collection of thoughts from some great thinkers, oh, and nice music too.
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          Jul 28 2013: Thanks for the compliments Mary and yes I just made it last week as an introduction to a website that will showcase my own thoughts and quotes in video form. When I first heard "Rumer" it was like an angel singing, her voice is incredibly pure and clear. I have used her music on a lot of my videos because I love it and she has not rejected any of my video use of her music so far. The only other singer that has moved be that way is Snatam Kaur but most of her material is a little to repetitious for my liking but of course it is meant for meditation which is why it is that way. As for males I love to listen to Geoffrey Gurrumul Yunupingu from Australia and of course Andrea Bocelli and both are blind yet see so much more than most people. Most of them sing in languages I know nothing about and yet I feel their music in ways my language can not describe.
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        Jul 28 2013: Keith, thank you for sharing the name of the artist....I will look her up.

        I'll have to visit your site and see what you're up to.
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          Jul 28 2013: The easiest way to get the full scope of my work is just type in my full name Keith W Henline into any search engine. I have many websites and about ten channels on Youtube.
          My latest project is http://peopletown.org an imaginary town where everyone shares every thing. It is only two weeks old so there is a lot of work to do on it and it is just one of the hundreds of projects I am working on. I am also trying to consolidate several of my projects so some sites have been deleted.
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        Jul 29 2013: Keith,
        Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I didn't spend too much time wondering about what you think, because I've read many of your comments, and think/feel I had a pretty good idea:>)

        I just checked out your links.....it seems that you and I have similar collections of quotes, and I AM part of peopletown. One of my life philosophies is...if I'm not part of the solution, I'm part of the problem, so I try to be part of the solution as much as possible:>)
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          Jul 29 2013: Colleen what I meant by help me build a town was would you like to work on the site itself. Co-author it and help me guide it until it can stand on it's own two or four feet. Right now it is written with wordpress which can optionally be a blog for solicitation of comments (which usually attracts more spammers than it is worth). I could rewrite it with Weebly which is much easier for non-programmers to use. I would suggest we maintain control of it for a year or two and then turn it over to a trust if it takes off.
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        Jul 29 2013: I kinda got that Keith.....that you were asking about working on the site itself:>)

        Honestly, I would do MUCH better with actually building a town....I have more carpenter skills than technical/computer skills! Wordpress......Weebly......all foreign language to me! Give me some wood, a hammer, some nails, a drill, pliers, wrench, straight and phillips screwdrivers and I'm good!!! LOL:>)

        I am really technically challenged my friend, so I'm not sure how I could be of service with your project:>(
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          Jul 29 2013: Actually it wasn't your mechanical or technical skills that appealed to me, it is your common sense and sense of what is right and wrong. Your sense of what could be without the bonds of our present reality. You are well grounded and yet you have the ability to as Jim Morrison said: break on through to the other side. On the other side anything is possible.
          Those abilities you can express easily with any word processor like we are doing now. I could probably do a good job and you could probably do a good job but think what we could accomplish together. You see how atrocious my English is.
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        Jul 30 2013: Keith, had I lived in her country, I'd have had Colleen in any project, computer or carpentry without a second thought. I really don't care if she is conversant with web designing - she is way too wise to be restricted to a chair.

        Problem is it will be difficult for me to compensate her in terms of money, unless she herself finds ways to ensure that too :)
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          Jul 30 2013: Pabitra I agree with you I would love to see her input in any form she desires. I only asked so I could make it as easy as possible for her to physically change the site or content herself without any intervention if she wanted to. To be able to mold and shape it. To change pictures or text or even design at will. Years ago that was simply not possible or feasible because of all the technicalities but today it is not only possible, it is the norm. Think about your profile on TED or facebook where you can upload pictures, change links and text at will with just a little practice. Today with software like Weebly most anyone can design a website in a few hours and have there own personal website that they can change at will for free. If you can change your profile on TED you will not have any trouble with Weebly and it open up a way to express yourself to the whole world.

          This is a new thing for me, I have built and helped others build websites for years but never have I offered someone else a chance to change my own projects. However I believe it is the wave of the future, we need to learn to share everything so it might as well start with this project since that is the whole purpose of the project.
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          Jul 31 2013: Thank you for your kind words Pabitra. I do not share information for money, but rather for the love of sharing information:>)
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        Jul 31 2013: Thank you also Keith, for your very kind words and feedback. Ok...we'll talk:>)
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          Jul 31 2013: Wonderful Colleen, I am working on converting the website now and I will contact your TED email when I finish. It could take a few days.
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      Jul 29 2013: Disagree. (I'm back).
      Read my comment and "just-world fallacy" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis).
      How are you? :D
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        Jul 29 2013: Hi Bernard.....welcome back.....missed you...I'm good thanks. What are you disagreeing with? Everything in the comment you are replying to? Everything in this thread? Please provide a little more information?
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          Jul 29 2013: Sorry! XD
          Specifically this : "what goes around comes around.....we reap what we sow".
          Otherwise I agree mostly (e.g : "do not believe in the common teaching about karma" "human life experience is about learning, growth and evolution as an individual, while contributing to the whole"). On a side note how does the latter concept relate to Karma?
          Sorry should have been more specific.
          Kind regards (as always),
          Bernard.
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        Jul 31 2013: Hi Bernard:>)
        You don't believe in what goes around comes around, or we reap what we sow?
        OK

        You ask...how does this statement/concept relate to Karma?...."human life experience is about learning, growth and evolution as an individual, while contributing to the whole."

        It seems that in most beliefs about Karma, it is perceived that the human life experience is about learning, and with each life experience (if one believes in reincarnation) we have an opportunity to learn and improve our "karmic" footprint/life print.....whatever you choose to call it:>)
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          Jul 31 2013: Whether we believe in reincarnation or not most of world believes we are going somewhere after this life and where ever we go our soul (energy) tags along and thus the saying "where ever you go, there you are" which has several meanings within it. For those who believe this is it and when we die we disappear, check your physics laws: energy cannot be created or destroyed, you can only change it's form. Now if you want to get into what came first the chicken or the egg, well you are on your own I don't have enough time to discuss that point.
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          Aug 1 2013: Interesting (as always).
          No, unfortunatley I do not believe in "what goes around comes around, or we reap what we sow". Mainly due to seeing the opposite so much in my life (and being told about it in other people's life).
          Oh. I can agree with Karma if it is about learning, and from learning improving your Karma Footprint. (If that is being consistent, :P).
          Kind regards,
          Bernard.
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        Jul 31 2013: Keith,
        I suggest that after this life, "we".....a human being, as we know ourselves in this form, is no longer the same. The body is recycled back into the earth, and the energy recycles to another form. I agree...energy cannot be created or destroyed....it changes form.

        So, I do not agree that the energy "tags along". To me, that suggests that we still have the same form, and my experience with an NDE/OBE tells me differently. I experienced my "self" as energy, and I believe that after the body dies, we return to the universal energy "grid", for lack of a better term:>)

        No thanks, I don't need to debate the chick/egg question:>)
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        Aug 1 2013: It's ok Bernard, our world would not seem as interesting if we all believed the same things...in my humble perception:>)

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