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shishir gupta

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To Write A crowd sourced, self evolving, Novel(story) on TED in 30 days. With the help of the best argumentative minds in every field.

Every age has its own circumstances and its own problems, we can not continue to follow all the centuries old religious stories to guide us in the complex, dynamic, ever evolving present.

I guess the current generation is feeling a lack of guidance, when stuck to something very basic and very core, when they faced with the dilemma of right and wrong everyone needs to chose from the "self formulated/ self perceived right or wrong".
(I know there is no absolute Right & Wrong, but most of the time we have to take a stand to move ahead).

Hence today I Invite all the inquisitive and the best minds of century, in every field, at this common place, TED to at least try to formulate the introduction of the story in the next 30 days. And i believe we will take this story somewhere because i have some ideas in mind.

Just a thought to scratch - " This could be the story of the "Real Universal God", who actually gave the opportunities(various mystique) to rule over the people as REGIONAL GODS and keep the people in control for the sake of Deep Ecology. And hence this whole story tries to explore his true intention towards THE UNIVERSE .

I know, i know ! it has been tried many a times before, but who knows This is the right time, it was waiting to reveal itself.

Regards.

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    Jul 21 2013: Firstly, Hello! Secondly, I love your idea and I think it is swell considering the amount of interest you will generate if you honestly consider this topic. The fact that you consider the universal God as in that all persons might relate to this concept shows the importance of applying all major religions into a single depiction that might display how your own reasoning form to fill the concept of a monotheistic religion comprised of all opinion and the impact ALL of these religions have had on humanities history.

    Best of luck! Feel free to reply with any more specific questions/whatever you have.
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      Jul 21 2013: Thanks and even after wondering if i could have expressed only half of what i meant, You have Understood the 100 percent. And for that i would request you(and will request others too now) to actively participate to this "challenge to understand "the state of the art of THE PURPOSE! " We request you to join this because i think - That one should not waste the time to play with these "Individual streams researches, having limits, and has a moore's law sort of thing in development and depend on the speed of development of other educational individual streams".
      (example- understanding the infinity in mathematics will eventually solve the secrete of Universe and the understanding of astrology, - Of Physics, on how the infinite number of subatoms are responsible to produce individual perspectives(your consciousness right now ?) & how every other atom is somehow a reason for this individual perspective.

      On the contrary we all should first try to understand - 'the purpose' (with all the state of the art understanding, as none of them is ever absolute), and because it has been done before also we should right now formulate "the state of the art purpose"!
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      Jul 21 2013: The Ultimate Ulterior Purpose !
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      Aug 4 2013: Actually I met this old guy at Hrishikesh and he had an accident because of my fault, therefore i took care of him for his last three months, the moment he realized i am worthy enough for something, he shared a secret with me - according to him, "there were specific guidelines for the benefit of humanity and every species as a whole (deep ecology) which were used by understanding and controlling the basic human rational errors. But these guidelines were meant only for limited people and these people used it accordingly to guide and control large regional masses under the so name Religions( he sounded pretty convincing that every ritual of these religions were designed for "acting above self & Beyond Now") . But later on were manipulated by there czars (you can guess the names). so you can imagine it as Universal God Or Universal Guidelines.
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    Jul 21 2013: well, I can start a story. The man put on his apron. It was time to barbecue...
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      Jul 21 2013: i got your joke.
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        Jul 23 2013: Why joke, shishir, my imagination isn't that strong and I could only think of the first two sentences of the story, is it okay? Oh, I see, maybe you wanted a deep morally instructive story, not just a story, well, you know, any situation can become deeply morally instructive.
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          Jul 23 2013: You are most Welcome !!
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          Aug 4 2013: you can contribute .. if you like.. In fact i request you to contribute.
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      Jul 21 2013: First of all A personal Thanks for your wishes for the Project.

      The story of the character may not be something like "Physics" or 'Science' explaination,

      But We will try to satisfy the urge of the character to fit in the most widely acceptable "Definition of God", based On Logic. Its kind of reverse Engineering the God Purpose, You may say !

      And yes, we know how difficult it is to Portray God as Character, hence we are thinking of creating a character as that of "Man From Earth".
  • Jul 26 2013: Why not discuss the concept for 30 days and then use that discussion to put together your introduction.

    I am interested in the idea that you have mentioned the "real" universal God. Are you suggesting there are counterfeit universal Gods?

    Along these lines I have been fascinated with Gold and Fool's Gold. Pyrite, also known as "fool's gold" looks like gold, but the similarity is much deeper than that. The crystal structure of Gold is a cube, and for some strange reason Pyrite often forms large cube structures even though it does not have a cubic crystal structure. You can see the counterfeit structure if you look closely at the faces of the cube. What is also interesting is that although the crystal structure of Gold is a cube it rarely forms cubes, instead it blends in with the rock it is in so that it is often impossible to see. There are other interesting contrasts between the two. But I wonder if the "real" universal God created Pyrite as a lesson on counterfeits.
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      Aug 4 2013: I met this old guy at Hrishikesh and he had an accident because of my fault, therefore i took care of him for his last three months, the moment he realized i am worthy enough for something, he shared a secret with me - according to him, "there were specific guidelines for the benefit of humanity and every species as a whole (deep ecology) which were used by understanding and controlling the basic human rational errors. But these guidelines were meant only for limited people and these people used it accordingly to guide and control large regional masses under the so name Religions( he sounded pretty convincing that every ritual of these religions were designed for "acting above self & Beyond Now") . But later on were manipulated by there czars (you can guess the names). so you can imagine it as Universal God Or Universal Guidelines.
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    I realized Morgan was looking directly into the eyes of Aristo, Morgan took a deep breath in a perplex manner, turns towards me and asked – What do you believe, Is there an ‘Ultimate Ulterior Purpose’ or we are just Results of the complex co-incidences?
    It was the moment!!! The moment when you know you cannot postpone the question any longer, the moment you cannot give any excuse, there is no running away. This was the situation my ‘Always Self Alert ‘warned me off every time. Absorbing, holding & finally exploding my true anxiety, I Said '‘I don’t know.’' I bent my face down & continued looking in the vain.

    Aristo draw our attention by asking – But in any case we could not confirm the integrity of your so called ‘Ultimate Ulterior Purpose’ mr. Morgan.

    Morgan Nodded agreeing to his point and said- ‘What if we three discuss ‘The Ultimate Ulterior Purpose’?, imagining that I have read this ‘Ultimate Ulterior Purpose of the Creator’, In the form of a book and as now its in my head, I can speak for it and will try to prove every point under the boundaries of logic. This book is having such Ultimate Ulterior Purposes, that it was used by the Intermediately Interpreters to write their own version of The Ultimate Ulterior Purpose, but they manipulated the Interpretation.
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    “Don’t ever consider my ‘questions & point’ as ‘illogical or stupid’, because I may be using your answers for these questions in future to build a ladder to trap you deep”. - Said Morgan
    YES…Morgan was like that only.

    “We were three people in that confined space. To my north was sitting Morgan, his custom made white shining suit with a neck tie, decorated on his very firm body, gave me a taste of his relation between his skin & his personality. Morgan always had a smile on his face with a dynamic combination of ‘faith, love, fear & temptations’ as if welcoming us to join him.

    Aristo was enjoying imagining Morgan as Morgan freeman from Hollywood, and he was not wrong altogether as Morgan’s native origin and his grey hair from his head extending up to his French cut beard & not to forget his complementary deep voice, were having the same flare and charm as that of Morgan freeman.

    Aristo, I think Aristo had a bad habit of exchanging sides between Morgan and Me, but I believe he was just confused! Most of the time Aristo loves the idea of Morgan, only after when i share my ‘Always Self Alert methodology’, he stops exploring deep with Morgan. In a disappointing tone Morgan described Aristo in a line once as–“He, who always questions the direction towards the answer but is still afraid to take a leap of faith”.

    Bending on his brown leather sofa, keeping his elbows on his knees Morgan Continued- ‘There always was an ‘Ultimate Ulterior Purpose’ and now I feel it. His next statement was full of sound of helplessness -“It’s not specific, it’s a kind of a déjà-vu, it was always here in my head; and now I want to draw it specifically.
    There was an unanswered silence for next four and a half minutes.

    And in the end there was 'ME; i was the one who was willing to believe Ulterior purpose if you could prove logically
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    Jul 20 2013: so the orcas told us they were scared of we humans because we walk upright....
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      Jul 21 2013: Greg Dahlen
      That Orka story was just to scratch the Itch.
      It ends after the engineer decides to Records the communication of Orkas and replay that voice to the New born(next generations) for a quite a few time and observes for decades.. Though he does not understands a word of what the next generation is learning in that controlled environment with those pre-recorded voices, But They Learn...

      Greg, Are you aware of the intelligence level Of Orkas at present ?
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      Aug 4 2013: In short they evolved by themselves via communicating the crucial learning in a much organised manner, as we humans do :)