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Should Microsoft and Google stand up and oppose the NSA publicly? Will doing nothing work?

The big Media Story today is about a Whistle-Blower who is hiding and
may soon to be captured and returned to the US for Arrest and Trial.

The exposure of NSA spying tactics of forcing Microsoft and Google,
as well as a number of other Internet Providers, both here and abroad, to provide User Records has put this nation's Internet Users on guard.

The NSA's current program PRISM has now been shown to have been
used to invade and capture information from friendly foreign nations.

We are Americans. We claim to be Free. However, in the
last 20 years things have been changing. Can we afford to stay
out of the mess?
What I wrote, although it sounds like an hyperbole, is anything but.

I refer to CNN's presentation on July 17th's video of the US Congress
having a hearing with the Deputy Director's of the Department's of Justice, DOJ, the DIA, the National Security Agency, NSA. and one other.

In the 3 .8 hour Congressional Committee's hearing, members asked pointed
questions and received evasive answers, with promises made that a secret
session would be more appropriate to answer their queries.

The queries by the Congressmen and Congresswomen were to the point
of why the NSA and other such agencies were conducting surveillances'
of US citizens, with partner corporations, collecting said US citizen's information from the telephone (cell phone) calls, email messages, and otherwise, that had been placed and received, and specifically without the knowledge and/or permission of said US citizens, in violation of two of the amendments to the US Constitution, plainly illegal acts.

Hyperbole, not hardly.

I found on my operating system, evidence of the NSA's Prism program.
Regardless of your opinion, please take a few minutes and
respond. ..Your input is necessary. ..Stand up, be fearless.


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    Jul 19 2013: You can see stuff I've written lately on my g+ at:

    It's very new, I'm negotiating to get a friend to extend fiscal sponsorship for the organization until I can incorporate.

    Especially see:

    Makes me really wish my dad were still around -- we lost him a bit over a decade ago. I sort of feel like I have him looking over my shoulder on this stuff. ;) He'd be 90 this year, but he had emphysema, started smoking at 13. Everything was healthy but his lungs. I could sure use his wit around this project! (And yes, *long* generations in my family -- one grandfather born in 1882, dad was 1923, me 1959, my son in 1993... No wonder I have a sense of history! :)

    If you want to read a contrast (and I mean *contrast* to that history -- go read Howard Zinn. It might brighten you up, just out of adrenaline. But it's a sharp contrast to be read equally critically! :) Zinn was an honored historian also. Or go on youtube and listen to some of Noam Chomsky's commentaries. The public schools will not teach our children controversial issues. That is why we need non-governmental alternative media with broad support, from a diverse, engaged electorate.

    Which is why each of us has a duty not to lose hope and remain engaged. So be of good morale and understand there are a great many of us out there. Until we turn out in numbers, no one will figure there's a market in our opinions, do you see? That's how capitalism works. We must make it fashionable to be uppity.

    And that is part of what I am trying to do with my project. There has been a great deal of market force put into compliant docile voters, consumers, what have you. It's bad for democracy and it's not what our Constitution was designed for. If we need to use social media and the net to rouse up peaceful dissent as a serious game and a trend and a fashion -- that's goddam healthy.
    • Jul 20 2013: Shava Nerad 10+ thumbs up.
      I'll take a look at your links later this evening, when I return.
      I never was into fiscal sponsorship, a new term in my life.
      I may be past that idea.
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        Jul 20 2013: D...I...T...T....O, D....I....T....T...O, D....I....T...T...O, and Ditto he said also!

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