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Should Microsoft and Google stand up and oppose the NSA publicly? Will doing nothing work?

The big Media Story today is about a Whistle-Blower who is hiding and
may soon to be captured and returned to the US for Arrest and Trial.

The exposure of NSA spying tactics of forcing Microsoft and Google,
as well as a number of other Internet Providers, both here and abroad, to provide User Records has put this nation's Internet Users on guard.

The NSA's current program PRISM has now been shown to have been
used to invade and capture information from friendly foreign nations.

We are Americans. We claim to be Free. However, in the
last 20 years things have been changing. Can we afford to stay
out of the mess?
What I wrote, although it sounds like an hyperbole, is anything but.

I refer to CNN's presentation on July 17th's video of the US Congress
having a hearing with the Deputy Director's of the Department's of Justice, DOJ, the DIA, the National Security Agency, NSA. and one other.

In the 3 .8 hour Congressional Committee's hearing, members asked pointed
questions and received evasive answers, with promises made that a secret
session would be more appropriate to answer their queries.

The queries by the Congressmen and Congresswomen were to the point
of why the NSA and other such agencies were conducting surveillances'
of US citizens, with partner corporations, collecting said US citizen's information from the telephone (cell phone) calls, email messages, and otherwise, that had been placed and received, and specifically without the knowledge and/or permission of said US citizens, in violation of two of the amendments to the US Constitution, plainly illegal acts.

Hyperbole, not hardly.

I found on my operating system, evidence of the NSA's Prism program.
Regardless of your opinion, please take a few minutes and
respond. ..Your input is necessary. ..Stand up, be fearless.


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    Jul 15 2013: The problem here is also one regarding profit. Tech giants stand to make enormous profits from these intrusions--whether they admit it or not. AT&T has revealed this month that they have been charging the NSA $375 to establish access to a user's data with an additional monthly fee of $10 to continue the tap.

    Also, our complaints on PRISM are very biased. I do not support the actions of the NSA, but I must admit that for certain outlets this was only expected. Take Facebook for example: It is a company solely based on stock and advertisement servicing over 800,000,000 users worldwide in the business of sharing personal information. From the moment a user signs-up, they are agreeing to a contract with the company that allows the company to collect their user's data. It's not too far-fetched to have assumed that this data collected was either being handled or handed to a government institution. PRISM was expected. our "freedom" has and always will be a facade.

    That said, In my opinion, the above mentioned companies SHOULD protest. However, they stand to gain and benefit more by aligning themselves to the government--after all is said and done, they are but corporations seeking for higher revenue.
    • Jul 15 2013: Kareem Garriga Thanks a bunch.
      On February 23, 2012, (last year) Obama announced a new initiative
      The Consumer Privacy Bill of Rights

      Nothing was said about the US Government’s secret surveillance role.
      Only "Companies" were referred to.

      A Bill of Rights that consumers should expect, and the obligations
      to which companies handling personal data should commit.

      1. Individual Control: Consumers should be able to control what
      personal data companies*** collect from them and how they use it.

      Companies should provide tools for consumers to control their data
      that are usable and accessible, giving consumers simple choices.

      2. Transparency: Companies should present privacy-related
      information in an easily understandable and accessible manner, at times
      and in places that are most useful for consumers. The disclosures should
      include what personal data the company collects, why it needs it, how it
      will use it, when it will delete it, and whether it will share the information
      with third parties.

      3. Respect for Context: Data should be used in ways that are consistent
      with the context in which consumers provided it. If the data is to be used
      for other purposes, consumers should have more robust control.

      4. Security: Companies should maintain reasonable safeguards to
      protect personal data.

      5. Access and Accuracy: Consumers should have the right to access
      and correct personal data.

      6. Focused Collection: Companies should collect and retain only as
      much personal data as they need, and securely dispose of it when it is
      no longer needed.

      7. Accountability: Companies should be “accountable” to law
      enforcement authorities and consumers and should take steps to ensure
      that employees and third parties with whom they share personal data
      adhere to the principles. These steps should include audits, training,
      and control over vendors and other third parties recipients of the data.

      I haven't a clue what happened to it.
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        • Jul 15 2013: Kate. A history lesson, hard to believe.
          This has occurred in real life over the last 20+ years.
          I didn't bother the flesh out the ones who started it.

          Bush 1 was a catalyst of sorts, selling us to the Saudi's
          as their mercenaries, used to whip Saddam into line.
          Clinton punished Bagdad, and Saddam once again,
          then completed the Bank's deregulation, and expanded
          government insured loans with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae,
          adding Ginnie Mae, and allowing AIG and Wall Street to have
          a field day with their small print investment vehicles. Bush Jr.
          an alcoholic schemer, and his minder Cheney, took War and
          carpet-bagging to a new level not seen since the Civil War.
          After Bush failed to move the social security fund to Wall Street,
          (telling us all on national TV, the safety of such a move) he
          emptied the Treasury by having the banks audited nationwide
          as a prelude to Henry Paulsen's act that convinced Congress
          to Bailout the "To big to Fail" Banks and friendly corporations.
          The really smart Wall Street Brokers like JPMorgan, moved their
          money across the pond. Goldman Sachs caused havoc worldwide
          and their CEO got 2 years in the slammer. Bush then handed the
          Treasury's $Trillion dollars of Bailout to Obama, and retired to his
          Central America plantation. Obama? That's a whole different deal.
          He is into total control. His impact thus far is continuation of Bush
          war policies, and throwing bailout money at businesses, while he
          punishes them with fines for doing nothing, and a healthcare plan
          that only benefit's the health insurance corporations with 30 million
          new policy holders and no acquisition costs. Follow the money.
          Janet Napolitano just resigned from Home Land Security and will
          most likely be the Democrat's front runner for our next President.
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      Jul 16 2013: My understanding is that the companies are obliged to relinquish the data, but that, similar to eminent domain, the government must compensate them at fair commercial rates. So AT&T is receiving fair value for what might in real estate be called "takings." What I heard from former NSA is this is passed through shell companies (can't have a large payment from NSA on the books ;).
      • Jul 18 2013: Shava Nerad 10+
        I am remiss in not responding to your earlier efforts. I apologize.
        You wrote 3 items and this one caught my interest completely.
        "1 day ago: My understanding is that the companies are obliged to relinquish the data, but that, similar to eminent domain, the government must compensate them at fair commercial rates. So AT&T is receiving fair value for what might in real estate be called "takings." What I heard from former NSA is this is passed through shell companies (can't have a large payment from NSA on the books ;). "

        I will research to find if the other involved NSA co-conspirators were paid as well as AT&T.
        There are several more US government snoop programs involved here also.
        And, I have read of some other nations in the EU, and maybe elsewhere, running
        companion programs as well.

        Shava, thank you for your intelligence.

        If I am overwhelmed by wading through too much Military Spy information to find the
        truth, the NSA must be staggering under their illegal loads. Now I know how the FBI
        must feel investigating the Mafia.

        Wait 'til I bust the damned Appliance that Microsoft left on my computer.
        Bill Gates better have some answers.

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