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What were you favourite bands when you were a kid or a teenager? What do you think that says about you and your community?

The TEDsters were born in different eras, different places all over the world.

What music you chose, why you do it and what that expresses says a lot about the person, the times, the moral paradigm and political landscape.

Music has always been an integral part of my life. I've been a goth, an emo, a rock-girl, a punk and more, both listening and making music, depending on the period. Some bands that have influenced me are still a good reference, some of them are just a sentimental insight.

Back to the question - what music did you chose when you were young and what do you think it says about the times, the community you grew up in and you yourself, as a person?

In other words - some like Iron Maiden, some like U2, some like other bands, some like everything, some do not. Why do you think that is?

All replies and comments are welcome.

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    Aug 3 2013: I was a teenager in Seattle Washington during the grunge rock craze. Lots of kids there were really into Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog and Mother Love Bone. These were a few of the favorites in my peer group. We really identified with this sound in large part because it was local and the band members were our age or a little older. Lyrics often included local references and when commentators wondered about the 'darkness' of the sound we could laugh at their ignorance of the effects of living in a climate with 10 months of cloudy weather a year. A quick Internet search says Seattle averages 58 sunny days per year. Lots of my friends were also into Jimi Hendrix, who grew up in Seattle, and is a local icon. It was a source of pride that all this amazing music was being born in our hometown. I still love Nirvana and it never ceases to bring back the nostalgia and 'darkness' (I mean that literally) of my youth. After living in sunny Los Angeles for the last decade, I know I can never move back to cloudy weather.
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    Jul 9 2013: Anna, I can write pages on that ! :)
    In the late sixties we did not have a TV in home, a Philips radio filled my musical space. I wasn't pampered at all and left alone so my horizon of music used to be quite wide where Indian and Western shined with equal brightness.
    I think I heard Joan Baez and Bob Dylan when I was 7 or 8 years old, though it was only much later their music sunk in me, thanks to my big sister. Cultural difference? Not sure, but Indian music had a rich tradition of her own so it engaged part of my attention. A lone boy of a Hindu brahmin family listening to international music at that time was, sort of, rare.
    The first band ever to be admired by me was the Beatles, of course. By then my dad bought an HMV record player - I still remember the glossy cover of the EP for Abbey Road.
    The times they are a changin. By my early teens my city saw a violent political unrest fashioned after the Chinese uprising. My first cigarette and first kiss happened while I saw bullet ridden dead bodies floating in the city canals. This, Pete Segar and Jimmy Hendrix were a heady mix for a 15 year old.
    But it was also when Ravi Shankar performed in Calcutta. I have never seen music more ecstatic and visceral. Sweat dripping from handsome face, his hand moving fast over the sitar, Ravi Shankar kept us transfixed. 'God, looks like he is making love to the sitar' said my cousin and I thought 'whatever'. :)
    Indian classical was there. Bollywood was there with incredible bell bottomed trouser daunting heroes chasing nubile beauties in garden rain. And there was Tagore, sublime with Bengali mysticism. They shaped my taste too.
    However, it will be later that Osibisa would tour my city and I would go off in a tangent with Manu Dibango's Soul Makossa.
    Thanks for reminding me to go that far back. :)
    It says therefore that I was a maverick and my community endured me.
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      Jul 9 2013: You've just written a whole page, thanks, Pabitra!

      It's good to know where we come from and where we're going, as they say :)
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    Aug 8 2013: The time is running out but before I see the tiny black clock beside this conversation saying that it's closed, I'd like to thank everybody for sharing bits of their more or less distant youth.
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    Aug 8 2013: Interesting question.
    The only 'A' I ever got on an English essay was 'Tastes in music' so it's a topic close to my heart.

    So let's see...
    Older brother's records - Pink Floyd, The Human League, Queen, and ... er... Little Jimmy Osmond.

    Then tapes from pals in school - They Might Be Giants 'Flood' and REM 'Out of time' being highlights.

    Bands that were big that I didn't get into in my teens but love now - The Smiths, The Pixies and ... er... Take That!
    Bands that I liked then but don't like now, or at least the music doesn't grab me as much - Pearl Jam, The Wedding Present (Hit Parade album only really I guess), and ... er... Bros. :-)
    Bands that rocked then and still rock - Nirvana, Led Zeppelin, Joni Mitchell, Jimi Hendrix.
    Underground bands that moved the goalposts - Helmet, Deftones, Slint.
    Bigger underground(ish) bands I adore - Dinosaur Jr, My Bloody Valentine, The Cure.
    Irish Trad Folk which I got into in my late 20's/early 30's - Planxty, The Bothy Band, Irvine/Brady, The Pogues.
    Live concerts that changed my mind - Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, Burt Bacharach, Ben Frost + the Krakow Symphony Orchestra, Gorecki's 3rd Symphony, Placebo, Shellac.

    What does all this say?

    I'm 38 now.
    I look at kids today and see them as hopeful/hopeless little puppies. Mostly not as wise as they will be.
    We had Michael Jackson in the 80's. His videos on TV were cultural earthquakes. What's as good these days?
    When I was turning 20 Kurt Cobain died. Rock was great in the early 90's. It comes in waves.
    No Youtube. X Factor and other artist crushing viruses weren't around then. VHS tapes of bands you care about were priceless items. Staying in on a Friday night to watch 'The Word'.

    Tapes that have Bach, followed by John Coltrane, followed by Lou Reed, followed by Bjork, followed by Mastadon. That's my cup of tea.

    Variety, quality, synapse joining riffs/heart/poetry made music.

    Music makes the people come together.
    And musicians do stuff better.
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      Aug 8 2013: "Music makes the people come together. "

      ...unexpected number of comments in this conversation show that yes, it does :)
  • Aug 4 2013: What a great topic, Anna!
    I grew up in Seattle and started listening to music in the early 80's, but I never had money to buy tapes, so I listened to the radio and made my own mix-tapes. That was one of my favorite pass times!
    I came across one recently which included Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, Nik Kershaw, The Pixies...
    The first tape I ever bought was by Men Without Hats.
    The kind of music I listened to was very different than what my friends listened to, which was predominantly Bon Jovi, Metallica, Guns & Roses.
    Just before I moved to Holland in the early 90's, the Grunge scene hit Seattle, of which I personally was not a fan. It certainly says something about my community though. The Grunge style carried through to clothing and even a certain type of mentality, which did not fit with mine at all.
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      Aug 4 2013: Thanks, Lizanne, great to see a musician here!

      Money was scarce in my case as well, the first tapes I got were bootlegs. Luckily, I was in a community in Gdansk from 15 years on where we exchanged our collections, discussed the contents.

      The first ever tape (and then - even a video) that I laid my hands on was a gift from my father. Queen - Livw at Wembley. I still love Queen but when my own music interests come, grunge was on the list. The feelings of anger, anguish, teenage pain expressed in this music were definitely relatable. Some songs by Alice in Chains are still on my long and diverse playing list (I managed to narrow the selection down to 5000 songs, but chosing them was hard), but my favourites are the strong ones, not the pro-depressive ones. Then those interests began to expand and encompass genres, bands and performers of all sorts and of somewhat conflucting nature - from the extremely rough to the most poetic. Beauty is in the ear of the listener, as I said before. At one point in life I could go to a Temple of Goths dance party on a friday, sing in a choir on a sunday while playing classical lullabies at home in between... And listening to a lot more on a mp3-player while on my way home, to choir or party. I must say that I don't have any particular musical identity now.

      Thanks for mentioning Depeche Mode, I know most of their songs by heart.

      How would you classify the music the you make and why do you think you chose this particular type?
      • Aug 4 2013: I'm in the same boat - my taste in music has broadened considerably, as a great admirer of music in general, like you, there's no way I could pin myself down to any one style either.
        As a kid/teenager, I really didn't know much more than what the radio or MTV broadcast. I spun my parent's records, who had anything from Chicago to The Police to Donovan! My dad was a Blues man, my Mom loved Classical. When I met my husband/songwriting partner, I was exposed to the world of jazz, which blew my mind. I delved into the roots of music, and found love for country, folk, and Celtic music. As I started writing my own music, I learned to appreciate newer styles from a professional point of view like funk and R&B.
        My own music is just like me - impossible to classify!
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        Aug 4 2013: "great to see a musician here!"

        We will all take a seat in the back now, lol! Ouch!
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          Aug 5 2013: Hm? Are there rows here? To me personally it seems that everybody's on stage, but ok, hope you're enjoying your free ticket :)
          Don't you play yourself?

          PS. T-shirts are on sale in the lobby ;-)
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      Aug 6 2013: Ah, always been one of my favorites (geez it's been over 20 YEARS)

      E, C#, G#, A

      I'm right next to the Caribbean.

      Great for the trombone too!
      Another good band ...Alice Donut=REM+butthole surfers
      Hold on tight! LOL :)
      Hate it or love it, not much in between. Stick around for the brilliant video, ghost hits on snare, and trombone @4:15...many breakdowns. lol, ....and the "dude" from Cold Play. I think the message in this link above says alot about your question, Anna. :) Dead on.

      What is Jazz? I'm from N'awelins, no idea. ;)
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    Aug 3 2013: I am an Asian girl. As you know, in Asian, Korean pop is very popular. All teenagers in my country know all Korean stars, such as Super Junior, Bigbang, SNSD, Bi Rain... When a star from Korea came to Vietnam, many fans stood and waited in the airport many hours before they came. They hustled, even many girls fainted. Even many girls kneeled and kissed the chair which Bi Rain had sat.
    University exam in 2012 in my country was idols cultural and many students quitted their exames because they said:"Don't take part in university entrance exam, we can next year but our love for Super Junior is forever." I really can not understand why they can say like that. They forget themselves and their family, they only know idols.
    Yet, because of the crazy blind idol is more when the fans are willing to accept in exchange for a 1 night ticket to watch idol performances. Meanwhile, ticket prices in My Dinh, the crazy fever that the press described as "unprecedented", leapfrogging from 1 million to 2 million, 4 million, and up to the ticket could not be found with any cost.

    No money, do not buy the tickets, and fans, want to be one of the 40 thousand fans wearing sky present at the My Dinh to be "once in a lifetime" look idols in the flesh, a grader 11 "simplicity" that: "I love Super Junior so if you want me to sleep with you to give me one ticket, I'll be ready."
    And many other situations. As for me, in the past, I also like kpop but I never had admiration like that. Now I like US-UK pop and Vietnam music. I like Sam Tsui is a boy who often cover famous songs of famous singers. With me, many his songs are better than original.
    Admiring idols is not bad but the things I want to say that please don't turn yourself into jokes.
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      Aug 5 2013: Thanks, I appreciate your comment very much. It reminded me of the hype I had to endure (while frowning and muttering 'you have to be kidding me') when Justin Bieber came to Oslo. Girls as young as 14 were actually writing suicide notes, begging to get concert tickets, some streets had to close, it was chaos.

      In this case both the performer and the fans were a sheer parody of themselves and the music industry.

      When iot comes to admiring idols... Whatever happened to reason?

      I find a lot in the link above scary.
  • Aug 2 2013: Music has many aspects. Back when I was really young, I liked all kinds of popular music. Bands such as Coldplay or the older Linkin Park. Radiohead? I'm probably a lot younger than most folks out here, so these names, don't really serve necessarily that much.

    I don't really think that community had anything to do with the selected bands, they just felt emotionally appealing to me. There wasn't really any "community" in my youth. Emo's mostly stick up themselves. Even the metalheads kept it to themselves, apart from some who could have had a long hair and clothes to represent their musical taste. Essentially though, music was something that I largely considered as a "free choice", not something that I listened in lieu of community or trying to belong to something. Though nowadays, that's pretty much what I am - a loner who's deep in music but hardly can find anyone who listens to same artists.

    Looking at my taste nowadays, there's four distinct type of music for me. The music I used to listen, well, I guess Radiohead and especially Moby still sometimes goes, but apart from those... not much in common. Nowadays my music taste is centered in more deep and emotional music that has to be somewhat original (on a personal level). I mostly love electronic music though. Some great examples for easily approachable deep music;
    I'm not sure what kind of sentiment is hidden in there... it feels like it simply brings everyone back to their childhood memories. It's a great piece.
    This is something that I'd like to call "art music". Though it's really breakbeat, but still, quite original.
    And here's probably my long lasting favorite - I guess some people might find it repetitive, but I can't get enough of that simplicity and especially the vocal work.
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      Aug 3 2013: The last link you provided was my favourite among the three.

      I remember Radiohead and Moby, I wonder what that says about my age.

      maybe you remember this little bit, although it's not representative of the music. I listened to it some time before but it's only during the last 3-4 years that the sadness of the tune really got to me:

      I actually was in a community, a mixed goth/emo/metal/anything non-pop. Although most of the members were loners, as you said, it did function well for some time, we even had regular get-togethers every sunday. It wasn't any form for fanclub of particular bands, just music and not only music the appealed to most of us.

      Thanks for sharing, Ted.
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    Jul 30 2013: Thanks for all the comments, stories and links.
    What a musically aware community! :)

    I'll reiterate or rephrase some of the questions above - why do we chose the music that we do? Is it demeanor, taste, influence of the comunity, a combination, or something more/else?
  • Jul 10 2013: My tastes in music have changed over time.

    In the 70's, 80's, and 90's, I listened to a pretty steady course of pop rock, pop country, and pop folk music. I think I like ballads the best, songs that tell stories, such as Ellanor Rigby, Bridge Over Troubled Water, Ode to Billie Joe, The Gambler, etc.. For groups, the Beatles, The Rolling stones, most of the big named bands. I never enjoyed real hard rock, acid rock or heavy metal very much.

    Most recently I have been enjoying Jazz and classical music, although I will lisen to country and folk occasionally.

    A lot was determined by how the music came into my life, When I was very young, we listened to what my father decided was good music. Crosby, Sinatra, show tunes, and things you would hear on Lawrence Welk. In addition to this, my dad would sing as we drove anywhere, as we got ready for bed, or family outings, tunes from the 20;s to the 60's, accpella until we learned the words and could sing with him. He didn't like Rock and Roll, so we didn't listen to it until the mid-70's. In the late 70's and 80's, I began to drive and had control of the radio. I had a couple classic rock stations that I listened to that dictated what I would hear, unless I drove with a friend that had something on an 8-track, or later a cassette, that was interesting. The radio has continued to bring most of my music to me, but now I find something like smooth jazz or classical that I can listen to in the background while I work. In the past 10 years, I have also been to a couple dozen symphonies to hear the music of various classical composers.

    This is probably a pretty typical music patten for folks in my generation. I always like a movie best if there was good music with it. Even today, I just bought a copy of "The Singing Nun" because I liked the songs when Debbie Reynolds sang them. Sadly the real Singing Nun's story is not so up lifting.

    My musical tastes have changed with time,
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      Jul 19 2013: Yes, musical tastes change as we and our situation change, they also change as the community and stage of life changes. Now I listen to types of music that a lot would say seems to be in deep conflict. But if it would be the same genre, the same melody, the same lyrics, the same thing all over again, that would be boring, right? :)
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    Jul 9 2013: I still am a teenager but my favorites are all over.

    I love Vybz Kartel, Movado, Peter Ram, Machel Montano, just as much as I love, Andy C, Lenzman, Virus Syndicate, Buraka Som Sistema, Daft Punk just as much as I love Antonio Carlos Jobim and Oscer De Leon and Celia Cruz.

    Most importantly it says that I grew up in a multicultural and open setting.
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      Jul 9 2013: I remember Daft Punk too.

      I can't say I grew up in a multicultural and open setting, the word 'open' doesn't seem to fit it. My favourite bands from early years were always bootleg, no internet, no access, no originals, but hey, there were communities that could help... So yeah, there are far worse communities still. Best wishes.
  • Aug 9 2013: So when I was a teenager, I was angry. I discovered heavy metal and Iron Maiden ruled my musical tastes. That isn't to say I don't like other genres and can listen to country and oldies too.
    Now that I am 46 I still find that metal is still my favorite genere. I just like the release it gives me. My current favorites are the folk and viking metal bands such as Eluveitie, Amon Amarth, Heidevolk, Tyr, Trollfest and even the fun pirate metal of Alestorm!
  • Aug 8 2013: : I still am a teenager but my favorites are all over.

    I love Vybz Kartel, Movado, Peter Ram, Machel Montano, just as much as I love, Andy C, Lenzman, Virus Syndicate, Buraka Som Sistema, Daft Punk just as much as I love Antonio Carlos Jobim and Oscer De Leon and Celia Cruz.
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    Aug 8 2013: As a kid raised in the 80´s I have a lot of influences. From POP, to ROCK, SOUL. I grew up with Madonna, Michael Jackson. I grew up with the last years of Freddy Mercury and The Queen. Cannot forget the 70's remains like ABBA, Boney M, The Bee Gees, and hits of POP and DISCO Sound. I am connected with a lot of one hit songs from the 80´s and the 90´s, we where rich in this kind of hit songs. Cannot forget names like Elton John, George Michael. The boys and girls bands, like Destiny Child, N'Sync, Back Street Boys, Thake That and the rising of Robbie Williams. Whitney Houston was a name that was there.
    You got U2, Depeche Mode, The Cure... But also Mettalica, and the unforgettable Kurt Kobain and Nirvana.
    It's so amazing, the richness of the musical culture. To be able to travel trough many kinds of music genders and understand the message and the geniality within. I am blessed to grew surrounded by all kinds of musics. That really influenced my music knowledge, and my perception and ability to evaluate may kinds of artists and kinds of music.
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    Aug 8 2013: Interesting Placebo song.

    I am well, thanks. I believe ya should start playing music again.
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    Aug 8 2013: I see that time is running out of this conversation and I did promise to continue my post on from the 80's, but there is just to much good music to mention.

    When it comes to Bob Dylan, where do you start? He has had such a long and prolific career.
    We could make a list of just the women of Rock & Rock and R&B and soul music.
    The Blues are another category that has so so many names that need mentioning.
    There are many newer bands that pump out a few CDs and the years just swallow them all up.
    The Beatles are their own category both as a group and individually, and so are the Rolling Stones

    So much great music.......
    I won't post anymore links, well just one more. IMHO the best and most exciting 17 minutes in rock music ...ever.
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      Aug 8 2013: I appreciate all your replies and summaries, thanks Theodore.

      ...but when it comes to Laurie Anderson I admit my defeat. I either a) "just completely don't get it" due to my lacking of competence in the ephemeral field of art appreciation or b) just to be more truthful to myself, am completely unimpressed. A lot has happened in music and visual arts since 1981 and having seen a lot of these developments, Laurie seems...uniteresting to me. Sorry for this.

      The Smiths took me to an appreciative, though a bit dull, short video of Noel Gallagher opinion on them, which took me back to when this song was everywhere.

  • Aug 8 2013: Black Flag. I heard them in the fourth grade and I have been statically held in a similar state of mind ever since. I was an alarmingly aware kid who witnessed first hand the anti- labor policies of the Reagen years. Through the years, my tastes have expanded but I still fall back on late seventies and early eighties "punk" rock and roll. I am listening to "Solitary Confinement" - The Weirdos as I type this.
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    Aug 7 2013: This is a nice overview of early Rock & Roll. ;
  • Aug 7 2013: I have enjoyed reading these comments. This is the opening paragraphs in a book I am writting. The book is about how I came to the my approach to life. Song were one means to sort out life. My Philosophy Through Songs

    This truth could be called pop psychology. You know, pop music psychology. Sorry about my attempt at humor. A number of my early ideas of how life should and could be were learned or at least introduced though songs. As you will see there were some very useful up sides to this, but there were also some down sides. Probably the most obvious down side was my unrealistic view of relationships. I bought the Cinderella story. It is highly promoted in songs. Specifically, my princess will one day find me and all the bad things in life will disappear and she will save me. In reality, she may help me in the quest over loneliness, but I'm the one that has to conquer that beast. However, at the same time it promotes hope for greater and better things. Something I needed and still need. Something I think we all need.

    I still quite often notice that in some situations, the words to a song leads to my response. Sometimes but not often it is the entire song. More often however it is a phrase or even just a few words that resonant with me. I seldom even recall the song name or who wrote/sang it. As a example of words to a song, I don't recall the name, when it was written, or who wrote or sang it is, “...where the eagle flies with the dove, if you can't be with the one you love, honey love the one you're with...” I know I was young, a teenager or early twenties, and love was new, confusing, and girls were just now beginning to show interest. I had an image of what my love interest would be like. None of course lived up to this image. I never felt with any girl how I imaged they would make me feel. So even though I wasn't with the actual one that would be the love of my life and of course save me, I could enjoy and love the one I was with.
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      Aug 8 2013: Thanks, Milo.

      People can struck words into our heads and if it's done by means of songs that can be played again and again and again the process is definitely more effective.

      Are the opening paragraphs in the comment above? I found that part slightly confusing.
      • Aug 8 2013: The two paragrpahs are the first two paragraphs from one of the chapters in a book I'm working on. I ran out of room for further explanation. Songs provided a means for me to understand the world in which I lived. They either spoke to me about how I viewed life or comforted me about how I was feeling about the difficuties in life. I also passed o looking at yoru question. But glad i did. It has been extremely interesting particularly since I have a close connection to those songs of youth.
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    Aug 7 2013: I like whatever is good at what it does now that I'm 30. When I was younger, the first band I really liked was Nirvana, but I really listened to whatever helped me fit in the best with others. Personally, I enjoy listening to and playing technical metal the most.
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      Aug 8 2013: By technical metal - do you mean goth industrial or guitar + computerized sound/voice?

      30 is not that old, you know.

      From my experience - I never listened to anything to fit in, counting on the old 'birds of feather flock together' which took me to unexpected places at unexpected times.
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        Aug 8 2013: I may of misused the term but what I meant by technical metal is metal that goes through several key and timing changes in songs.
        Fitting in was important to me back then and the different music I was exposed to has actually, I feel, increased my ability.
        I had a lot of fun playing with a classic rock, country, top 200 cover band about 2 and a half to 9 months ago. A good friend asked me to try out.
        I like a slew of black metal bands from your country. One of the hardest songs I've ever learned is Dissection's Nights Blood.
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          Aug 8 2013: Which of my countries? ;-)

          I'm actually not a fan of Dissection, but the band was on the list some years ago.

          Maybe you'll like this from Norway, a classic, not black metal though.

          Also check out Tulus.

          And rock on :)
  • Aug 7 2013: growing up i listened to a little bit of everything. from both Spanish, and English hip hop/rap songs, to now expanded my music taste to African drums, Jamaican, classical, jazz/blues, boom bap rap, piano, meditations, instrumentals, even guitar, and rock etc. growing up there were a lot of things i didn't have control off some were good other bad-- where i lived, who i lived with, the school i attended, what i ate, when to get a haircut. music was one of those thing i could control -like what i listen too. me and music have a deep bond, music is also one of those non-material pure things in life like love for family. the music i listened too in theory says: that were i grew up its a diverse place, with strong cultures and values, hard workers, that go through a lot, that enjoy dancing and music, and have too many problems.= accurate. if you can find those songs that let you travel to other dimensions, those songs will stay will you forever no matter were you at. what my music says about me is I'm smart, diverse without limits, deep or profound in my thoughts, and my life has been a rollercoster ride of highs and lows. i can understand how someone with a different life will enjoy different type of jams. in theory a persons top 10 songs can tell something about them. hope this helps'
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    Aug 7 2013: This is a real work on art. In fact it was performed at MOMA

    "O Superman (For Massenet)" is a 1981 song by experimental performance artist and musician Laurie Anderson. Part of the larger work United States, "O Superman," a half-sung, half-spoken, almost minimalist piece unexpectedly rose to #2 on the UK Singles Charts in 1981[2]. Prior to the success of this song, Anderson was little known outside the art world."
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    Aug 7 2013: This was one of my favorite piece of traveling music. I would listen to it on long car rides.

    There are other long musical piece like this, that fall into the pop genre
    Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield,

    ....and Autobahn by Kraftwerks
  • Aug 6 2013: Well ! I adore music.When I was a teen I've loved the girls band 'pussycat dolls' even if I'm a boy because I loved their beauty , voice , dance and their music above all the voice of Nicole scherzinger.She has got a catchy and a powerful voice and she can deal with any kind of music such as pop , opera , rock...ect that's why I loved her and i'm still adoring what she does.Moreover she is modest , simple and really funny as she seems a normal person as well as I listen to other kinds of music in which lyrics speak and make you living the story of the singer (love stories , life , troubles and so on).To sum up I would have to say music has benifits on all human beings without exception , but one should learn from it and try to inspire from the message behind the insturments and melodies. Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      Aug 8 2013: You're welcome :)

      PS. Nicole is not bad, I've heard only two songs, both were catchy.

      Agreed on the benefits.
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    Aug 6 2013: There is so much music that I enjoy. Do you know the music of "The Smiths?"

    I've made hobby of finding the very best of the obscure music. In college I did a radio show and know guys that went of to work in New York City in the radio industry. They had crates, literally melon crates, of vinyl. I am still friend with a guy here in Vermont that does a radio program for Vermont Public Radio, about the history of rock & roll.

    Try these:

    The Velvet Underground:

    Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band

    Blood, Sweat & Tears, (The very first album)
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    Aug 4 2013: Started off with Motown when at school - Temptations, Smokey Robinson, Marvin Gaye etc. That music always reminds me of when I started 'noticing' girls...

    At Uni it was Joni Mitchell, Crosby Stills Nash and Young, James Taylor, Nick Drake, The Who, MIles Davis' "A Kind of Blue" Yes, Santana, Steely Dan, Doctor Feelgood, The Jam, Alan Stivell + loads more. This was the most powerful link I've experienced in my life, between the music I listened to, and socially with the people I was with at the time. I keep harking back to that amazing time by playing any one of the bands mentioned and it is almost as vivid a memory as being there again. Just yesterday I was driving through the Welsh Hills with Steely Dan's album "Aja" on full blast - What a sublime experience!!
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      Aug 4 2013: So true, music can has the ability to enhance the links between people, make experiences more vivid, reflections and emotions deeper, even if it only serves a function of soundtrack to the situation you're in.

      Your comment reminded me of car rides (as a passenger) I took with some of my old friends, I was living in Southern Poland then, working, literally living at work with my colleagues. We played tunes that are definitely not my style while driving and now, when we have a chance of having a reunion, we still play them with the sentimental "Do yo remember when..." Aaah.
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    Aug 4 2013: Well let's hope problem is solved. Judging by the music link you shared, I'm would buy that. :)

    Here are some links to a young composer I know, Ryan Black, also a Ted Member, and my favourite composer who produces music of the classical, pop style you suggested, Vanessa Mae. :
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      Aug 4 2013: Vanessa is a TED member? Wow! I adore this woman!

      Thanks for the link, nice page.
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        Aug 4 2013: No. :) Ryan Black is a TED member. His video is the first video on that page. The rest are of Vanessa Mae. I don't know if Vanessa Mae is a member but I might send her an invitation. She is an extraordinary woman.

        Vanessa Mae did a video on her exploration of her genetic make-up about where and how her Genes influenced her career abilities. You might find it interesting. It is also at the same site and is titled, appropriately enough, "The making of Me." :
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          Aug 4 2013: Thanks, I need to give my grammar glasses a tune-up ;-)

          I've seen the first part of the documentary, looking forward to others.
          For me Vanessa, and other violin players, have a sentimental value of sorts. I started with the violin at the age of six after being examined and tested and a music school and found to have absolute pitch (which I don't have, I think they made a mistake). The cruel methods mentioned in the first link definitely did not work on me - at the age of 11 I was sitting, shaking on the sofa saying to my mother that "I don't want to go there anymore, mom." I meant the music school. My strongest memory from that time is holding my hand on a door frame when entering the room and getting it accidentally slammed on by my overemotional teacher. I was crying and bleeding, she still made me play although there were drops of blood on the strings. Acheiving supreme coordination that violin requires is quite hard when you're bleeding and shaking. Anybody that can go through that and smile while talking about it is a hero to me.
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        Aug 7 2013: You both may like or already know this group.
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          Aug 7 2013: I both know and like them, maybe John does as well :)
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    Aug 4 2013: Leonard Cohen
    Fleetwood Mac
    Van Halen
    Pink Floyd
    Michael Jackson
    LL Cool J
    Busta Rhymes
    Missy Elliott
    Whitney Houston
    Mariah Carey
    Traci Chapman
    Roberta Flack
    Peter Gabriel
    Phil Collins
    Earth Wind and Fire
    Dub Step
    Kidd Rock
    Jonny Cash
    Green Day
    Brian McKnight
    Carrie Underwood
    Within Temptation
    Linkin Park
    VNV Nation
    Dead Boy and the Elephant Man
    Beats Antique
    In This Moment
    Skylar Gray
    Neil Diamond
    Dimmu Borgir

    Just depends on my mood.
    Willing to listen to anything at least once.

    In our teens we have this tendency to connect who we are with the kind of music we listen to. I went to an incredibly diverse school in the city and was raised by people from multiple generations. Their musical preferences spanned all the way across, I found myself singing along with basically any song that came on any radio station from the time I was very small.

    Classical music blares through my speakers from time to time, my 7 years with the all city orchestra in grade school gave me an appreciation for Brahms, Bach, Pachelbel, etc... if you're into classical check out Black Violin, hip hop classically trained violin players, or Miri Ben Ari, another exceptional violinist. Apocalyptica is heavy metal cellists, gotta love that.

    I have a preference for Italian opera over German, Si Tu Mami is my favorite. Sends chills up your spine.

    Music set, reflect, or lift a mood. No one genre can do that for me.
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      Aug 6 2013: "Music set, reflect, or lift a mood. No one genre can do that for me."


      I won't attempt to make a list of my favourites, I don't think 2000 characters would be enough, but some of yours would be in my selection.

      I know Apocalyptica well, missed the sound, thanks for reminding me of them.

      I haven't heard of Black Violin before, you meant this group, right?

      Incredible, human musical ingenuity has no borders, loved it.
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        Aug 6 2013: Yes those are the guys, the one has the coolest strings instrument I've ever seen.

        I've found that musical preferences can often times help me make certain judgments about people. Eclectic tastes in music usually means that the person is accepting of different types of people and has a generally open minded point of view.

        A person who lacks an appreciation for a variety of genres of music tends to have a narrower view on life and becomes obstinate if you try to introduce an idea or theory that contradicts their own.

        There are exceptions to every rule obviously, this is just something that I happened to pick up on and make it a point to pull that piece of info out of the conversation whenever I can to find out if it supports my view or not.
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          Aug 6 2013: "There are exceptions to every rule obviously, this is just something that I happened to pick up on and make it a point to pull that piece of info out of the conversation whenever I can to find out if it supports my view or not."

          I guess that's called confirmation bias ;-) Kidding.

          I agree that a person sticking to one or a few genres is narrowing his/her own perspective on music and aesthetic experiences. I can enjoy and appreciate everything from Schuman to Suicide Commando, depending on the mood, but I would be tentative on making judgments about people generally without actually knowing them, especially if it's based on musical taste. Don't judge lest you be judged :)
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        Aug 6 2013: Those who fear judgment fear being judged harshly and probably rightly so. We have the ability to judge for a reason, utilizing that ability helps me to navigate through conversations without making offensive comments and staying away from sensitive topics. If more people utilized their good judgment when interacting with people and knew how to effectively communicate our list of societal issues might actually dwindle.

        I know what you're saying and can acknowledge that the term judge generally carries with it negative connotations but keep in mind your response to my comment was delivered based on your judgment of what I said. :)
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    Aug 4 2013: I was deeply into Led Zeppelin, Iron Butterfly, Crosby Sills Nash and Young, Alice Cooper -the Beatles, of course- The Beach Boys, and too many other to mention. The conflict in Vietnam had a tremendous affect on my musical disposition.

    I also played Guitar and pursued a careerer as a rock star, which gave way to raising a family and going to college. I got deeply into the evolution of Rock Music and saw it becoming something more increasingly intellectual as bands like The Silver Bullet Band played with the themes and motif’s, only to see it descend back into the primitive depths, as the music industry put their money into such bands as AC/DC in order to capture another younger Generation of kids. It's a money game. It becomes what they want us to like more so than what we want to like.

    What would happen to the music industry if the next generation decided they like Classical music? How might the industry defend against this -no money to be made- situation? How would arts and humanities promote it?

    I'm sure everyone feels this would never happen, but.... what if?
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      Aug 4 2013: Oh, there's a way to make money there, John.
      Most soundtracks to major productions have to have a classical tune, either new or old, there's money there.
      There's money in fusion of pop artists, classical composers and choirs, merging the new and the old, adding some special effects...

      I see a way out of the dire, alternative future ;-) In this future, this composer would be a superstar:

      But are classical composers so interested in making loads of cash or just making good music? Probably the latter which means - more cash for the industry. Problem solved, possibly.
  • Aug 4 2013: I started my Rock Interests with Elvis in the 50's as a child, from my older brothers record collection and music on the radio. I got together with friends and we 'performed' the Motown girl groups--The Supremes, Shirelles, etc for ourselves with all the 'moves' we could manage! Bob Dylan inspired me to try to learn the harmonica, which I never did master and 'Everybody Must Get Stoned' was a delight knowing that I wasn't alone in making childhood mistakes and taking blame! Bobby Vinton and others filled in nicely right before The British Invasion and we all chose 'sides' and our favorite band member--I was on The Stones side up against The Beatles, of course, which I also enjoyed. Simon and Garfunkel was even discussed in the classroom (Sounds of Silence) in High school and I also enjoyed the other popular songs of the day. Jimi Hendrix was something new and exciting we hadn't heard the likes of before along with Led Zepplin and Janis Joplin. The Folk Singers caught our attention with the Hippie Movement of the 60's and dabbling a little in The Blues with Paul Butterfield Blues Band and The Blues Project.
  • Aug 4 2013: Whilst growing up in 1980s would place me in the MTV generation age bracket, I am rather liberal in picking what I like or dislike.

    Pop music of pretty much any era, though I pick what I like, not billboard charts or sales figures. I either like it or not. If it sucks, I state so. If it does not, I like it. Simple. Abba, Boney M, and plenty more since these. No Springsteen, no Black Sabbath, don't care about any rock (except few Queen songs) and anything that leads to depressing state of mind.

    Classical music of most composers heard of, starting with waaaay back when classical music was not classical yet and closing with some "contemporary" classical authors. Again, it better be good and at least attempt at rivaling Mozart or Tchaikovskiy.

    Jazz, but mostly big bands, though, I like the three- and four-men bands, too. Definitely no crazy experimental kind, 'nuff said. Benny Goodman was a good man, indeed, and so was Glenn Miller (if you think there is anything better than his "In the Mood", I am lagging behind with the latest developments).

    Electronica is kinda okay, but not the crazy bleep-bleep kind (tried to listen to a lot of it last 10+ years ... tired).

    Dancing music ... this is tricky, because I like break-dancing kind, but not the dumb kind. Plus, I tend to pick music out of the various eras. Hard to pinpoint any particular years. I have favorites from almost any decade known to Billboard.

    Folkmusic - yes, please. Most slavic music is okay, though, not terribly brilliant to my liking. My favorites are some georgian music (from country of Georgia), especially, some or their latest, and bavarian Oktoberfest music. Also, there are amazing georgian male choir chants that are centuries old tunes that refuse to go out of fashion. Look up "Suliko" on youtube for example. There are plenty more. Some swedish folkmusic is fine, too, but not that advanced compared to georgians. If you think african chants are osum, you have not heard real georgians yet.
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      Aug 4 2013: Thanks for sharing, Sam.

      Have you tried Goran Bregovic or folk music from "Albion"?
      Here's a taste:

      When it comes to pop - at times pop is difficult to define. Popular music, music for the masses... What becomes popular is often was masses are enchanted, enthralled by, it may be a genre that cannot be described as pop, but times change... Now the younger masses are into what the producers design for them, sorry for the simplification.

      Still on pop - your comment made me think of Mamma Mia movie (with Abba songs as themes). After being dragged to the movie theatre to see it and then, after actually seeing it and feeling some sort of anti-consumerian distaste, I had enough courage to say 'Well, I didn't particularly like the film." the reaction from the one who dragged me there was "You're weird."

      That was some years ago and I'm still thinking of a good response to that... Maybe I should have said 'I prefer to be a bit weird but myself than..." Oh, I don't know...
      • Aug 4 2013: Anna,

        "Mamma Mia" ... went to see it in the Winter Garden on the Broadway just three weeks ago ... being a bit of a musician myself, I can tell this much ... sometimes the music is larger than the performers who perform it ... IMHO, Abba music is of that kind. Regardless who sings or plays it, it sounds good. Musical-wise I was unimpressed, or rather, thought of it as being weird, too, straight out of 1960s kind ... few plot lines could use some major cleaning up to make them PG-13 ... I am not a fan of musicals to start with, though, definitely know that some real-life situations make one sing, so can relate :]

        Pop music is actually a tricky genre to define, agree. Mozart and Salieri music was somewhat the popular music of its time, too (though, I have another pet theory of mine that during that era it was not the concert hall music, but travelling troubadours ... kinda FM radio of its times).

        Thank you for sharing the link, I've heard quite a number of nordic and celtic singers, but all in all prefer Enya any time ... and Secret Garden ... and Marcome, who, IMHO out-sang Enya with her "Seven Seas".

        I'll share something, too. Try this amazing contemporary georgian masterpiece, combining ancient melodies and modern remakes ... I admire georgians for preserving their cultural heritage and finding ways to incorporate it into the modern life without destroying their roots.

        Or, here is another amazing modernized version of georgian chant, likely, based on some folktale:

        Back to Abba and music that is larger than the performers who perform it ... these ancient georgian melodies ... they have been polished and perfected for centuries ... and it shows. That's what contemporary pop music is lacking. Pop music is of a fleeting temporary nature, written in a day, it dies within a day. In some ways it resembles background noise. Something like that :]
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          Aug 5 2013: Loved the links!

          I agree, the old can be successfully preserved within the new, of whatever persuasion.

          Here's a taste (you don't have to like it ;-)):

          Ukrainian black metal:

          A piece from Finland:

          I don't expect that you'll enjoy my links as much as I enjoyed yours, but since we're talking about preservation of old chants and songs... Can you imagine that songs by Madonna, Rihanna and so on will be considered folk music, researched and re-made by people in the year 3000? This little thought just struck me.
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    Aug 3 2013: Anna, why did you quit playing music? Well, never mind then.
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    Aug 3 2013: It has everything to do with what what you were exposed to by chance or what you came across by accident or what others told you was good before you could decide for yourself.
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      Aug 6 2013: And when you decide for yourself (or think you do, when your semingly counscious decisions may just be an effect of exposure, rebellion against the exposure, innate longing, a combination of all those and more) you just might discover music from the past and present you have not been exposed to before... And again... And again... Provided you have a search engine and an open mind.
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    Aug 3 2013: Back when rock & Roll got started.....
    Elvis in 1954,
    Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Fats Domino, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, and Gene Vincent. All legends!
    Phil Specter's "Wall of Sound"
    Motown was its own sound.
    And there was surfin' too
    The British Invasion:

    Back in the day, there was no better place to here music than "The Fillmore." Every band worth its salt played there.
    Music videos change music forever.
    Bands could no longer just make music, they had to have the right look also.
    Romeo Void fell victim to this trend when they were dropped by their record label due to Debora Iyall's "looks".
    But then came "disco."

    to be continued......
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      Aug 6 2013: I viewed all the links to discover that I know the songs and the tunes regardless of my date of birth (although TED doesn't require their members to state their age I believe I can safely assume that you've been on this planet considerably longer than me) Apart from the surf song and Romeo Void.

      Thank you for taking all of us back.

      When it comes to music created before I was born, both bands and genres, I somehow feel that one band was omitted in this conversation. The Doors. I find that at least curious as some songs by Jim and the gang are still considered anthems by a lot of communities. There were two student clubs when I was at uni that had The Doors as main soundtrack to whatever discussion or get-together was taking place.

      Another thought struck me, it's not terribly original though. Most of music, bands and songs referred t are in English. The genres, moods and times that were mentioned in the music differ, but the language is usually just one. This is somewhat inhibiting, because of the language a lot of great songs and musicians not belonging to the AngloSaxon tradition might be forgotten for a simple reason - the language sounds unfamiliar, it doesn't resonate, although the tunes might.

      Since you've mentioned music from 50's onwards, until the 80s, here are some non-English blues, rock or other types of music from before I was born (those are classics, by the way, and I'm not being patriotic, just trying to show a different perspective)

      The 60s:

      The 70s:

      The 80s:

      The Eurovision Song Contest can also show what was happening in popular music outside English-dominated regions.

      Waiting for continuation, 2 days to go :)
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      Aug 7 2013: Have you noticed how homogenous the audience is in the Haley video? Almost everybody chewing their gum with an open mouth, clapping the rythm of the song while actually seeming to be bored by the performance. But, as you said, that was just the start.
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    Aug 2 2013: anything but rap! OK, may be little acceptable amount of rap. Alright, rap is ok, but only if it doesn't involve swearing or a too over confident narrow minded lyric.
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      Aug 3 2013: Kick it ol' school Bro!
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        Aug 3 2013: HAhahahahahaa...very appropriate indeed :)))) very funny
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          Aug 3 2013: There is a line about not being narrow minded in this one. Gotta love Ice Cube.

          NWA - I ain't the one.

          "see, they think we are narrow minded cause they got a cute face and big behind it" LOL

          I will not provide the link. :)
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        Aug 3 2013: I was talking about Theodore A. Hoppe comment, I still couldn't bear to like rap music.
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          Aug 4 2013: Of course, I'm in another country :)
          No idea.
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        Aug 3 2013: Funnily, that actually gave me some good though tentative vibrations :) An memories of early MTV and teenage magazines for 14-year-olds that I tried to avoid getting - there were posters of the performer there, you know...
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    Aug 2 2013: There were many musical influences in my early years. I will mention two here in response to this question.

    Ritchie Havens was best known as the performer that opened Woodstock.
    Ritchie was a old wise soul, he was always positive, patience, and humble. I had the opportunity to speak with him on several occasions. As to his influence on me, I would ask others to watch this interview. Ritchie past away recently, but his music still lives.

    The second piece of music is also not all that well known but it still seems fresh after all these years.
    The song says it all.

    Many thanks for posting this conversation.
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      Aug 3 2013: Thank you, Theodore, I enjoyed the links.

      Your comments caused one concrete reflection and one association:

      The reflection, although far away from what you shared is this - most of my early musical influences or rather, the musicians behind them, are dead but they definitely did not pass away of old age. Luckily, not all of them.

      The association is the little Woodstock festival in Poland. I've never been tempted to actually participate there, but some of my friends have lasting, though maybe vague or blurred memories from there. Here are some links. I warn you that it cannot be compared to the original, but the idea of Freedom is definitely there (if you ignore more or less subtle messages from sponsors):

      Thanks again.
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    Jul 22 2013: When I was in high school I sang this song a few times to my peers of a different race than me. It was my first year of experiencing the public school system. I would get responses like, "that is a crazy white boy" or a big laugh. All I had to do was keep singing this song and the laughs would continue. I have always been able to laugh at myself as I still make mistakes and I have no pride concerning race. I would joke about my own race often and laugh at them as well. As I grew I have been able to also laugh at other dumb jokes that did not include my race. I believe someday we will all be able to laugh at any stupid stereotypical race joke out there without being offended in any way. This one is for you Anna from Andromeda. :)
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      Jul 22 2013: Thanks, you actually touched upon the second part of my question - what do the bands say about community, or at least the commenters community or his/her role in it.

      It's not my sort of music but made me think of a song by Type 0 Negative with almost identical title as of the ones you provided links to.
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      Aug 1 2013: Hi,
      About your comment on the band Lamb - maybe you'll like this better, same emotive style and combination of genres.
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        Aug 2 2013: Hey, I heard this song before. Reminds me of somebody that I use to know. No longer a good or bad thing anymore.

        How about this one, always has been one of my faves.

        It's been on repeat as of lately.
  • Jul 20 2013: I grew up listening to and still listen to metal. Particularly metal from Sweden and Norway. Bands like Opeth and Meshuggah (both swedish bands) Devin Townsend (from canada) .
    I also appreciate jazz, orchestral music, bjork, portishead, scott walker, the swans, cake, massive attack, enigma.
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      Jul 21 2013: Aah, thanks Craig. I remember Opeth very well, not my favourite one though.

      Do you know a band called Lamb? An interesting mix of Massive Attack, Portishead and Bjork, recommended.
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    Jul 20 2013: As of lately I listen to this one about 5 times a day.

    This one too not as often though.
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      Jul 21 2013: The first one didn't load, the second one was ok. I didn't like the melody, but the rest was ok, thanks.
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        Jul 22 2013: hmmmm, it loaded on my end ...(well now that sounds gross).

        What, have something against the major key?! ;P

        Second try:

        or search: matt and kim lessons learned

        Has blurred out nudity...maybe that is why?
  • Jul 19 2013: I always ask people, what bands were your bands when you were 18? It always seemed to me
    that at that age, you were in the prime of your rock and roll. When I was 18, in 1978, I dubbed
    my official favorite bands Genesis, Yes, and Jethro Tull. I grew up in upstate New York, in the
    country. When I was pre-teen, I listened to AM radio, Cousin Brucie. I bought 45RPM records
    at the department store. When I was around 8, in 1968, my parents bought me a monophonic
    green hard plastic record player with a flip top. It was my machine. They bought me an LP by
    The New Seekers to go with it. My parents were liberals, they marched on the Vietnam War
    in DC. They were Unitarians. I speak of them in the past tense; they're still here. They knew,
    and know, Pete Seeger. I didn't like The New Seekers. I liked The Beatles. I bought
    45s of Can't Buy Me Love and She's a Woman. The first two LPs I bought, to my parents
    chagrin (They evidently weren't all that liberal) were Who's Next by The Who, the band
    overtly pissing on some Stonehenge-like rocks on the cover, and The Slider by T Rex.
    Not very wholesome stuff. And I'm sure the third LP I bought was Janis Joplin, Pearl.
    So years later I ended up with stereo Hi Fi, and found Genesis, Yes, and Jethro Tull.
    I saw Genesis 8 times. I can list the album tours and venues. I saw Jethro Tull five times,
    I saw Yes six times. I saw Emerson Lake and Palmer at Madsion Square Garden. I saw
    everyone at Madison Square Garden. I saw Stevie Ray Vaughan at The Chance in
    Poughkeepsie, NY. I saw Pink Floyd, the Animals tour, at Madison Square Garden.
    I saw Cheap Trick. I saw Cindy Lauper. I saw Peter Gabriel three times. So eventually,
    I got a lot older. But I still listen to what people listen to when they're 18 now.
    I'm a pop music encyclopedist. Recently I've found, and seen live, Carney,
    April Smith and the Great Picture Show, Sondre Lerche, and Tally Hall.
    Tally Hall is from Ann Arbor, Michigan. Check them out. I always loved Madonna.
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      Jul 19 2013: Thanks, Chris!

      I liked Genesis too, still like it. I don't think that being in the prime of rock&roll is at 18 though, rock&roll is in your heart, independent of age ;-)

      Best wishes.
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      Jul 20 2013: Wow Chris! very nice history.
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      Aug 3 2013: You must have listened to WNEW-FM!
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    Jul 15 2013: As a kid I listened to Don Mclean, who wrote the song "American Pie." I suppose I liked the interesting lyrics and also it has a very catchy, not too aggressive sound, but I don't know what that means, as I supposed catchy is in the ear of the beholder. I also listened to Bruce Springsteen, I also liked the lyrics, I liked the emphasis on going out at night, as a kid I thought nightime held some magic.
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      Jul 19 2013: Thanks, Greg.

      The night tends to hold some mystery, culture-wise, but it depends where. Best wishes from the land of the midnight sun :) I agree that catchy, beautiful, aggressive is in the ear of the listener, sometimes it just depends on the mood. I like the song too, I still like Madonna (she made a version of American Pie) and recognise all the different phases she went through.
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        Jul 19 2013: It's kind of funny, Anna, when you posted this conversation I wanted to lie, because to me those guys, McLean and Springsteen, now seem a little uncool, but it seemed better to be honest. I guess when you're young you make the best choice you can based on the info you have. Possibly as you get older your tastes get better simply because you've been exposed to more possibilities from which to choose.

        I don't know what they say about the culture. "American Pie" may have been a reaction to the tumult of the sixties, as it has kind of a roots sound, getting back to the calm roots after the agitation. Yet the lyrics do have agitation, is the song schizophrenic? Springsteen also has a roots feel, yet the lyrics have a certain sadness, some say we Americans were sadder and wiser after Vietnam. Does it feel different for you to listen to these songs when you don't live in the country they originated from?
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          Jul 19 2013: Oh, McLean and Springsteen were cool, no doubt about it. The reason why I'm saying this is simple - the world still knows they exist, they made music, the wrote, they followed their own path.

          I agree that music, literature, lyrics and their combination is a reaction to what is going on, an artistic interpretation of it and what is happening with the person in the middle of it, at intersections of it, intersections of this and the so-called self. Music, pop, rock&roll and so on are not what most would call high art but that doesn't mean that they're not valuable. Hasn't the original version of Pacman code recently been bought by MOMA?

          I cannot say if it feels different for me to listen to these songs as I have never been you and do not know your thoughts, emotions or associations when you listen to them. I can tell you mine, you can tell me yours, I'm sure there will be a lot of common ground but not all of it as we are different people. All of us are :)

          And when it comes to emotions - agitation, anger, fear, resentment, awe, beauty are all there, often together, I don't think this combination make any sort of music or art schizophenic.

          Best wishes.

          (BTW - I've just listened to Rammstein, when I was I writing this comment there were following bands on my playlist - Dresden Dolls, Tricky, Amy Winehouse, Faithless, Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Nirvana... and so many more :))
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          Jul 19 2013: Just to add a bit more since you mentioned the country of origin - this is from my teen years, still on my playlist, hope it won't feel cheesy to you:

          Sorry that it's in Polish, the translation is there to find somewhere on the net.
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          Aug 3 2013: Springsteen best.
          From 1976:
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        Jul 19 2013: thanks, Anna, I still listen to a lot of music, but my life changed a lot when I discovered the Masai tribe of Kenya when I was about age 35. If you don't know about them, they have consciously avoided technology, they live in huts with the roofs coated with the dung of their cattle, no electricity, no running water. I have to think music isn't as important in their culture, since they have no devices to play it on, but I really don't know for sure, do you know anything about them, maybe you'd see what role music plays for them?

        Yes, I like the two Polish videos, not my first taste but it's nice to be exposed to something different. I'll give you a link to well I was going to say one of my favorite songs but actually I might be a little sick of it if you've never heard it you'll probably like it: It's from a great record called "Loaded."
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      Jul 20 2013: There was one song? I think it was Springsteens last international hit, released 87' - 90'? A damn fine smooth whisky of a song. I could never remember the songs name except for some lyrics " A freight train running through the middle of my head"
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        Jul 20 2013: I've heard it, can't remember it. I believe you could just google the line maybe add Springsteen's name, and google will find it. Was this a song of your youth, Ken, what did it say about your times?
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          Jul 20 2013: Lol Greg, that bloody google, i keep forgetting it's right there, just one click away. Did you know that when i do search for something it's usually for something pretty obscure and end up not finding anything but if i ask on forums i get a pretty good response.

          "I'm on fire" by Bruce circa '85 It was a song of my teenage years, for me, it was the slow mournful way of how he sung it yet it's about the boiling fire we men can go through and I don't know about anyone else but my teenage years was a firestorm.

          What did you think of the 80's? I saw it from here in Nz so musically i only was exposed to mainstream radio and then video.
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        Jul 20 2013: I don't know if I think much about time periods, Ken, I seem to go by the markers of my own life, or when I learned something, like "that was the year I learned that," or "that was the year I moved there." Maybe I'm not too mainstream, I don't know. Like this year will be the year I started TED conversations.
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        Aug 3 2013:

        "Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby, edgy and dull
        and cut a six-inch valley through the middle of my soul

        At night I wake up with the sheets soaking wet and a freight train running through the
        middle of my head
        Only you can cool my desire
        I'm on fire"

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    Jul 13 2013: Hey there Break your bones Mr. jones Taste me As I bleed Taste my need And spaceboy I've missed you Spinning round my head And any way you choose me You'll break instead Watch me Death defy Defile my life I don't NEED I don't CARE Please I want to go home cause when a lover aches That's when a lover breaks I want to go home I want to go home And spaceboy they'll kill me Before I'm dead and gone And any way you choose me It won't be wrong And anyway you choose me We won't belong We won't belong

    What moonsongs Do you sing your babies? What sunshine do you bring?
    Who belongs WHO DECIDES WHO'S CRAZY Who rights wrongs where others cling? I'll sing for you If you want me to I'll give to you and It's a chance i'll have to take And it's a chance i'll have to break
    I go along to be with you And those moonsongs That you sing your babies Will be the songs to see you through I'll hear your song If you want me to I'll sing along And it's a chance i'll have to take And it's a chance i'll have to break
    I WAS in love with you
    So in love
    I WAS in love with you

    ...ALWAYS LIKE THIS, HEART AND MIND DIVISION! It grows exponentially. We ALL most likely have been on both sides. Got a reason? You know what I'm talking about.
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      Jul 13 2013: Thanks for the rant, let me pretend I don't know know and send you best wishes and cheers :)
      I guess... That was kind of scary, back on the subject maybe? ;-)
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        Jul 14 2013: Scary as in two people being blindfolded at the edge of a deep pool and if one of them takes off the blindfold just before falling in the water all the water vanishes as the one still blindfolded lands in the bottom of the pool? HA! yeah, trust is kind of scary but I can't wait to get up and do it all over again. Thanks for the best wishes and the drink, I will be me :) This is not a rant. How about a small amount of empathy? I'm getting too old to pretend, I'd like to figure this crap out someday before I die. There must be a reason. Sorry, I thought I was on subject about going back to teenage feelings (those lyrics above) and what it says about me, I guess all over again. I believed I was done with the "hard slams" and the not "ready to jump with her" though :) I was wrong. Best wishes to you as well. I hate to brag but I think I really nailed the subject. Five years ago I would have never responded to this subject. Today I am this person at the moment. That was the biggest slam taken so far, I still have not found my kids. I keep running in a field of land-mines and searching for them under a set of black wings in the night skies.

        I don't want to slay the dragon, I just want equality with it. :) Then I will spend some time with my kids and maybe fix a wagon. :) A nice peaceful balance! Justice. Understand? Hey, you got my back? ;)
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    Jul 9 2013: For the record - I used to loved to following - U2, Iron Maiden, Led Zeppelin, Queen, Theatre of Tragedy, Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumkins and so many more... I also used to love Marek Grechuta, singing poetry, dozens of things, bands and individuals - so-called artists and true artists. Not only that. Also DJs. People from all over the world.

    I encourage to share more :) Trying, at least.

    Best wishes.
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      Jul 10 2013: Smashing Pumpkins has gained my attention back again. The first two albums have unleashed so many very familiar emotions as of lately. I love the melodies. I follow these vocal melodies on the trombone often such as Disarm.
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    Jul 9 2013: Currently the rebirth of dance and house by some british dj's - Bondax and the different evolution the poms have gone in since the new wave days. Old Ozzie rock bands and a few locals in my country. Elvis and Jim Reeves, the immortal Dean Martin and Franky Avalon. Le Donna e Mobile by good ole Pav, UB40, The Cult, Metallica, Marilyn, Fleetwood Mac, Rhombus.

    Abba and Earth wind and fire. So many.
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      Jul 9 2013: The Cultt and Metallica - classics. And Ozzie! And Marylin.

      Thanks! :)
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        Jul 10 2013: I love you every hour
        Wild Flower.
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          Jul 20 2013: Wild hearted son. I don't know of any other Rock band that has an Indian round dance as an intro to an aptly named song, the native in me swung around and went dead still when i first heard it.
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    Jul 9 2013: Jawbreaker- love the PHILOSOPHICAL LYRICS, by far best I have ever heard (Ache, Boat Dream From Hill, Shield Your Eyes, Sluttering...are just a few of the finest, I could go on here). Seen them live in my home town. On to Jets To Brazil, mellowed down same idea. Then The Forgetters.

    The Clash- A wonderful collage of influences.

    I have too many to list...

    It is about the message behind music for myself. A strong connection with the meaning in the lyrics along with the melody. I don't like all music. I can listen to all of it just for fun and appreciation to some extent until it gets worn out (1 or 2 times). Then I must shut it off or change the tune. The music I like never wears out though. I can be too repetitious about some bands is what I have heard from others.

    Oh, and I don't like to put labels on music for some reason, I can't figure this out at the moment.
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      Jul 9 2013: I don't remember those bands you're mentioning, but I do like the idea of philosophical lyrics. They comment who we are. Could you give an example? Thanks.

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        Jul 10 2013: I believe in desperate acts the kind that make me look stupid.
        I never felt like this before, I say that every hour.
        I got to you there was nothing left
        I got to you there was nothing left
        I got to you there was nothing left
        I built this life and now it's mine.
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    Jul 9 2013: Led Zepplin, Grand Funk Railroad, Allman Brothers, Grateful Dead, The Kinks, Jethro Tull.