Alex Hutchins

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Women will soon be in charge

In 2009, statistical data shows that there were more females than males in the US. In 2012, more females were attending college and graduating than males. Divorce rate in US has remained constant at 50% and the overall birth rate is declining among Caucasians, it is increasing among Hispanics and Blacks and Asians. More females are entering the workplace than males according to the latest demographics from the US Census.

While there might be a general consensus among married males that they control all aspects of the family, it is oftentimes the opposite with the female controlling the budget and all purchases and decisions that the family makes which was just the opposite in my parent's generation.

Only women can give birth which seems a little too simplistic but artificial insemination techniques can be used to control whether or not the baby is male or female. And, while we are not at that stage in our development yet, there is a possibility that it could one day be the norm.

Throughout my 40 year career, I have worked for both female as well as male bosses, and I much prefer working for females. Why? Females do not take their position for granted. Females do not cut corners but are very thorough in all that they do. Females manage their time better because in addition to working they also must manage a household, whereas males tend to play golf and drink and watch TV after their workday is done.

There are also exceptions to my comments and right now there are more males in controlling positions than females, but the tide is slowing changing and soon the reverse will be true. This is especially true by the fact that more females are graduating from college than males...

Males will continue to have a dominate place in sports, movies, music, and the military where a college degree is oftentimes not required. But, in the business world, our lives are about to be fundamentally changed.

So, here's my question: Is this good or bad or are you neutral?

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    Jul 6 2013: I agree, I recently did a essay on what I was proud of and i chose being a women. In this day of age we are passing men b and kicking ass if you ask me.
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      Jul 6 2013: As an alternative to "passing us by and kicking ass" how about pulling alongside us men and we can work together?
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        Jul 6 2013: haha ok! I was generalizing, there are men out there that take it for granted that they have been number 1 for so many years. I respect the men that want them equal just not the men that are full of themselves and would rather be #1 forever and think it was made that way. Women are strong people (only some) but the women who are have such potential and I feel that the world is finally seeing that
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        Jul 7 2013: There is nothing wrong with pulling alongside, if males can keep up... Over my 20+ years in the college classroom, women are generally more interested in knowledge, more creative, and think more outside the box than males... I wish it were not so, but it is, at least for me... But, my size could be too small to matter...
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      Jul 6 2013: I think you are correct here because females want it more than males. Many males, unfortunately, take their positions for granted because it has always been that way. The same can be said of the rest of the world as compared to the US as a whole. Globally, both women and men from all cultures are taking jobs away from Americans because their desire to have those jobs is greater than our desire to keep those jobs.
      While inside that change, women are taking jobs away from males, within the US as well as overseas.

      As a College Professor for the last 20 years, my best students have been females as opposed to males. Females write better papers. They do not try to interpret the criteria to make their assignments less difficult. They always attend class and typically sit in the front rows of the class and ask the most questions. All of my athletic males put forth the minimum to get by. Of my female students, the foreign students put forth more effort than my American students.

      I doubt very seriously that what I see is unique only to my employment.
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    Jul 6 2013: Cannot for the life of me remember where I read it but it said something along the lines of "By the time women gain control of the fate of the planet men will have destroyed it beyond repair". Women were always meant to be the decision makers. Men decided that because they had bigger statures and muscles that they were the dominant and we the subservient but I ask you this...had women been in the position of power since the beginning of time would there have been such a focus on destruction as opposed to preservation? Would we have wasted unbelievable amounts of time and resources on violence? We'll never know and can only speculate. Based on the general nurturing nature of women the world over I would have to say...there would have been a lot less war and a lot more planning ahead for future generations.
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      Jul 6 2013: Good point(s) and my logical approach stands corrected, but that does not change the fact that women will one day be in charge of everything or most everything. It does not change the fact that more women are graduating from colleges and universities than males.

      So while my approach is flawed, the fact of the matter remains the same....
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    Jul 6 2013: Sex only matters in reproduction and lactation.
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      Jul 6 2013: How true!!! But, if you are a 30 year old man and a female takes your job because she is more qualified or more educated because of your apathy, you don't give a crap about reproduction and lactation.
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        Jul 6 2013: Right! It would change nothing if a sperm producer took your job because he was more qualified than you. Sex has, correction: should have, nothing to do with qualification for employment, unless the job specifically requires sperm, egg, or milk production. Thank you Alex!
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          Jul 7 2013: Boy, am I glad you clarified that point Ed... exceptions, unfortunately, oftentimes prove the rule.

          Males cannot give birth either.... so, women will never have to be afraid of losing their positions (pun intended) there...
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    Jul 20 2013: Is everyone missing this... as soon as women put it all together... that all they need is a few george clooney look alike to provide the where with all to sustain population growth we are all toast. We are hanging by a thread here.
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    Jul 19 2013: I don't quite share your confidence that you know what the future holds, Alex. But it could be that women will more and more be bringing home the bacon while men will be in charge of the remote.

    In any case, I'd say that men have effectively taken charge of this thread.
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    Jul 10 2013: As long the people who run things are competent, gender matters not to me.
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      Jul 18 2013: Nor to me... but to many macho males it does unfortunately...
  • Jul 9 2013: I thought this was supposed to be kept secret.
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      Jul 9 2013: Barry,
      I didn't think this was a question, it is a fate accompli
      • Jul 9 2013: Oh, in that case I guess we can discuss it now.
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          Jul 9 2013: There is no way we can survive such a discussion. There are some things we shouldn't talk about. Voodoo curses come to mind and anything about women.
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          Jul 11 2013: At a recent celebration of a wedding anniversary, the groom I knew as a soft spoken person was asked for his secret to 60 years with his wife. He stopped for a moment, smiled and said "it was the magic words..."yes dear"
          Let's face it, men are not really all that important, so we don't want women to figure that out, at least in my life time.
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        Jul 18 2013: Good point... I stand corrected on this point.
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    Jul 9 2013: I agree that Men need to change but I think the problem stems much further than the workforce. In fact if you were to look at the Jackson Katz's TED talk you will see that men need to refresh how they think and act in many different ways.

    We need to start holding each other accountable when we drop the ball in all area's of our lives rather than turning away and slapping backs and giving each other one more shot. We are escape artists at heart and these time call for a shift where we learn to be team players not only with one another but with the women in our lives as well.
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        Jul 9 2013: With all due respect, I was in no way saying that each family, man or woman, must meet some scripted cookie cutter framework, established in a debate held on a TED forum, and prescribed by me or anyone else in the group.

        I can appreciate old world values, however times as they are including the economy, current cohort social perspectives, and future prospects I am suggesting that times are changing. That because of those factors there is a shift coming in social, economic, and demographics that without change we perhaps will fall short of keeping up and ultimately harm the women we care about. Without sharing the burdens that daily life now demands from us we are only going to shorten the lives of our mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters.

        There is no reason old world values can't exist while still sharing the burden.
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        Jul 9 2013: TED FRIEND, I appreciate the thoughtful posts you have made in your short time here. Could I recommend here that when you write that there are lots of empirical data on the positive and negative effects of something, you might also include a couple of links to sources?
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        Jul 9 2013: Thank you for including a sample of your references.
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        Jul 9 2013: I did not read the whole study. What I read suggested that women are unhappy with marriages that are less equal than they would prefer and that women who prefer egalitarian sorts of marriages often find their husbands less emotionally invested in the marriage, in part because the husbands are not as egalitarian-minded as the women.

        I also read that, unsurprisingly, those who believe in committed marriages are happier with them than those who don't and the possibility that expecting less emotional work from the husband makes for a happier marriage.

        There is a hypothesis articulated but not specifically tested that men and women may have tacit preferences for traditional gender roles that then make them happier in what the author calls a combination of old and new rather than entirely gender role-free family arrangements.

        The bottom line, then, is that egalitarian, gender-role free marriages don't make people happy if the man in particular isn't into it.
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          Jul 10 2013: TED Friend,

          I agree that couples need to find there own balance and certainly wouldn't suggest that what works in my marriage would work in yours or any one else's.

          I am however suggesting that women shoulder a lot more than men do and the expectation is that they should. I am speaking in broad terms and painting with a broad stroke however, it seems to me that women are expected to keep the home in order, take care of the kids, help provide financially, be care givers to elderly family members, and all while taking care of themselves. Seem like a lot to me especially when the traditional role for men was to be the bread winner.

          During and after the Women's movement the expectations of women have only increased and a lot of it they brought onto themselves in order to prove something. I do think that things have shifted though and a great example of why women can't have it all was written by Anne Marie Slaughter.

          Her husband was supportive and yet there was still an imbalance in her life why should we force that same imbalance on other women?
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        Jul 9 2013: TED FRIEND, of course one cannot reasonably push gender roles in marriage onto others. Couples need to work out what their preferences are in this regard- preferably before permanent commitment! It is one dimension of compatibility.
  • Jul 8 2013: Actually, corporations, religions and the military run things, not women or men.
    Unfortunately they are now run by men only, and when women are excluded, balance goes out the window.
    This can lead to stupid decisions, like drug makers selling drugs they know are killing people who take them. Hopefully women are less likely to think their own paychecks are more important than the lives of their customers. We can't be sure until a lot more women are CEOs and board members.
    Many American, male dominated religions gleefully look forward to Armageddon so that everyone who disagrees with them will suffer horribly, while they expect to be "saved". Not very christian, are they?
    Believing the world is about to end is the world's greatest excuse not to clean up the planet, fight climate change, or feed children healthy meals. Would this be different if women were equal in religions?
    Inducting/allowing women into high positions in religion, politics and business might bring huge improvements. We won't know until sometime after they get past the glass ceilings that are still rigidly in place.
    FYI: Until relatively recently women handled the money in most families. Men brought their wives or mothers their paychecks and were given pocket money. Women paid the bills and bought groceries and clothes as needed. Most people never had investments of any kind.
    It was in aristocratic families that men controlled virtually all money, property, and women. In the 1960s a woman could not buy a house without a man and could not get credit based on her own earnings or holdings.
    Women used to be equal to men. The head of religious life in Greece was the oracle at Delphi, a woman. Male and female gods ran the cosmos. Male god only religions have driven women into subservience, often murdering them for not converting.
    Gee, some religions do that today. Are women safe running things?
    Are men through killing uppity women?
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      Jul 8 2013: A fair and balanced argument on a derisive question.
      However, my experience has been that women in the highest positions are as cruel and vindictive as any man.
      I give you .... Margret Thacher... The Iron Lady. The story goes that Gorbachev tore down the wall because of her, not Regan...
      Most male board member won't vote for women as CEOs because they are afraid....
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    Jul 8 2013: I would be surprised if the next president of the United States is not a women.
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      Jul 8 2013: Great time to get into the shoe making department. I'd like to sell her at least one exotic pair of shoes of painted recycled bubble gum multi-color but one color dominate (light blue) for a touch of class without being boring with it. I'm looking for a partner, any luck here? :) We could say it's made from a very rare rubber tree/grass found in the depths of the Atlantic Ocean, "the ocean's palm tree". 10 men have lost their lives trying to get to the depths where they have been found. You can't get these shoes from anyone but me today. No one else sells them. I bet I could make her happy. :)

      I will make the next pair light green for she will NEED to not ever wear the same pair twice in public speakings as the light blue one's get tossed aside in the bottomless pit of her galactic whitehouse closet :)

      She will become bored then I will have to come up with something more to make her happy about her shoes. :) Diamond embedded in the recycled bubble gum, yeah?
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      Jul 8 2013: Do you think Condelessa Rice will run?
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    Jul 8 2013: If what you postulate it true, that women are more thorough, then great! Perhaps this shift will correct the major down shift in customer service. Perhaps it will increase the empathy companies have for their clients and begin to reestablish personal connections. It may even emphasize the importance that the end user plays when designing products or providing services. This shift may begin to correct centuries of mens absentmindedness when it comes to fair business practices.

    Perhaps a different approach would be to consider holding men just as accountable for the family finances, diaper changes as well as bringing home a paycheck. Why should there be a separation between work in a corporate office and work at home? I think the problem is the learned behavior that needs to change that puts so much more of the work on women's shoulders.

    If we were to address the conventional wisdoms methodology where women are responsible for the home and men are responsible for the financial, which based on economical factors led to women being responsible for not only the home but contributing financially,and question the fairness of that practice.

    You implied that men spend their time drinking and playing games while women are forced to work day and night. Maybe the answer is in your own post. Perhaps we as men need to be more accountable to the needs of women and share the responsibilities both in the corporate world as well as at home. By sharing these responsibilities perhaps that will give time for both men and women to play games sometimes even together.

    I like the topic though. I believe this is an issue we seriously need to address.
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      Jul 8 2013: While my original post was opinionated and generalized, I think you have gotten the point that I was trying to make and that is that MEN have to change. Certainly no all men are like I describe but there are a bunch of males who are exactly like that. And, no all women are as thorough as I describe but those that are have been taking jobs away from males for years.

      When I was in sales, my coach used to tell me to observe women in groups and listen to the questions that they were asking each other and new members to the group. In order to be successful I needed to adopt that approach and when I did, it worked and a bond was quickly develop.

      I am merely trying to open up eyes by slapping males in the face so to speak.
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    Jul 8 2013: Some observations, not yet noted. An Australian social demographer, Bernard Salt has written of the rise of females to power. Of note was in terms of factors relating to transferrance of wealth. Consider, women live longer than men! Men tend to marry women younger in age than them (eg 5 years younger). When the man/husband dies, his wealth is transferred to his wife.

    Now if the wife was five years younger and lived on average five years longer, then the 100% wealth of the couple is now in the hands of the female for approximately 10 years.

    Now also consider the baby boomer generation and consequently the above example will be played out in very large numbers!

    Not saying any of this is good, bad or neutral.... just saying it is.

    Agree btw with females being predominately the household decision makers.... they do decide the majority of the big decisions, eg which house to buy, which car, even which food weekly to buy. I know I have generalised and that there are always exceptions but principally all of the above applies. : D
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      Jul 8 2013: I am curious as to your sources for the claim that women are more likely to decide which house to buy or which car. I am not saying that your claim is not true, but I would be very interested in seeing the supporting data.
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        Jul 9 2013: Hi Fritzie, re my supporting data, can't be specific to exact sources, however have observed thru life experience and understood aspects from formal understanding consumer behaviour study thru marketing qualifications! : D
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      Jul 8 2013: These are some excellent points, especially about the transfer of wealth...

      I have also noticed when my wife and I are out to purchase anything from a condo to car to appliance, the sales person (male or female) spends more time addressing my wife than me... and, quite honestly I do rely on her judgment more often than not.
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        Jul 8 2013: If I walked up to you and you were selling something with my wife and children who do you believe you could SELL your product to easily? Me or my wife? A week later, "Honey, can we go back and see more of those washing machines with all the bells and whistles, I would be soooo HAPPY!"

        "....Yeah, OK, anything to make you happy, dear" (I'm so freaking tired of this, is what I think to myself)

        What you are referring to here is not about the transfer of wealth it's about going bankrupt like many today and the quest for happiness.
        Slap me in the face, dude. I need it! What about yourself?
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          Jul 9 2013: I'm ok without needing the face slap, Vincent. I think your example however,rings true in many instances! : D
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        Jul 9 2013: Sales is big business Alex and it is a science. Reps know who they need to convince for a sale. : D
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    Jul 8 2013: Do we need CHANGE? Yes? Than..

    Let the women take charge and experience the change.

    I expect many changes , will mention only two to begin with.

    There may be no God or may be a female God.

    Old religions where freedom of women is restricted will be wiped out or modified drastically.
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      Jul 8 2013: Speaking of old religions:

      Enjoy :)

      It can add to the conversation.

      Best wishes.
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        Jul 8 2013: Anna i saw the video but i could not get it ? pl explain.
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          Jul 8 2013: Thanks, Adesh.

          You mentioned old religions. In the video, there are people wondering what the meaning of Stonehenge is. When I was a child I visited a lot of similar circles as the Stonehenge, locally. My mother and father took me there and told me about all the world's religions.

          It is about balance and equilibrium. It can be argued that such circles and people who built them were trying to tell us that. Equilibrium between genders, and this is what the conversation is all about.

          I promise not to ramble about the Pi and infinity.

          Best wishes.

          The equilibrium and balance in the video is somewhat broken, but it shows some interesting points - cultural differences, problems concerning communication, greed but also - that it can work well!

          I live in a different country than you - different cultures, different traditions - but let us talk :)

          Best wishes again :)
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    Jul 8 2013: Too many stereotypes, I definitely agree.
    I generally like the idea of no thumbs down button. However, if confidence and pride (especially about one's sex!) starts to surpass ability to gain knowledge I firmly believe negative feedback is surely necessarily.

    How can one be proud of the sex they are? It's like saying I'm proud to have balls as I do my best impression of Michel Jackson.
    Well the hell with pointing out all bad examples here. I like this link... STAY GLUED TO YOUR TV's! This is all I'm worried about.

    To the OP, would you like to be the opposite sex or are you just misguided by social media like the majority of this country?
    I thought I was going to read about a great idea here not plastered to another freaky debate :)
  • Jul 8 2013: Gosh - I'm going to catch it Does putting two female alphas under the same roof really work? Just a question.
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    Jul 7 2013: Hi Alex,

    Just a quick response: if women were in charge, good, emotive, understanding, intelligent, pragmatic, practical women, the world would be a better place.

    Best wishes. (coming from a woman, Karl Popper and Steven Pinker bless you)
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      Jul 7 2013: I understand what you are suggesting and I agree with your analysis but it is irrelevant from the standpoint that women do no actually have to be any of these, if there are more females than males which is the direction into which we are headed.

      However, I think more women possess those characteristics that you mention than males... including myself.
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        Jul 7 2013: thanks for your reply, Alex.

        It's not about gender, and shouldn't be. it's about a lot more than that. It's about knowledge, experience, skills and a lot more.

        Best wishes.

        PS. I'm a woman but I have all of the above that is - knowledge, experience etc.

        Best wishes.
        Amen ;-)
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      Jul 7 2013: Agreed Anna! The same would be true if such men were in-charge. Sex is not a factor in this matter.
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        Jul 7 2013: Thanks, TD!

        Human. Maybe that sounds a bit better.

        But actually, iot doesn't matter to me how that sounds, what matters to me is that every human being, me and you included, is going to prosper and is not subject to suffering.

        Best wishes.
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    Jul 7 2013: I reading a lot of sexism and stereotyping in your statement above.
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      Jul 7 2013: "Alex Hutchins" and you are reading sexism and stereotyping?



      Any help?
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        Jul 7 2013: I'm not following, sorry. How does the gender of the OP affect the inherent sexism in the statements he/she made?

        Oh, I see. You believe only men can make sexist statements about women (and vice versa). Preposterous!
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          Jul 7 2013: Geez, I hope women haven't fallen for the irrational gall of men and make sexist remarks.
          Wait, can women make sexist remarks about women?
          I mean, I just never thought of it, but I guess it is possible.
          What do I know, I'm a man.... is that a sexist remark?
          I keep falling farther down this wrath hole.
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      Jul 7 2013: If you are reading that into my statement then you have missed the point...
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        Jul 7 2013: Your point was clear, as were your sexist statements:

        "Females do not take their position for granted. Females do not cut corners but are very thorough in all that they do. Females manage their time better because in addition to working they also must manage a household..."

        Or perhaps you think the statement must be negative to be sexist? Any time you generalize ALL women (or men) you've made a sexist comment.
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    Jul 7 2013: Does it matter? What will be will be if it does. I'd rather have a woman than a logic bot statstician devoid of any life experience other than what can be accessed, zero physical experience means zero anything. Having a smart phone does not mean that makes one smart.

    Beware the rise of the marylin manson type human, devoid of sex. The organic bot that so many want to be.
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    Jul 6 2013: Gloria Steinem will be pleased.
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      Jul 7 2013: You again... I thought I dropped you way back some time ago on the theory of economic theory... And, this has very little, if anything, to do with Ms Steinem btw. If more females than males are being born then there is a higher probability that they (females) will be in commanding positions. And, if more females graduate from college than males, then that also underscores the above sentence as well. This, my economic friend, has nothing to do with opinion....

      However, this is my opinion... I would rather work for a female boss than you... and, since I do not have to worry about that being retired, then it is a meaningless comment at best....

      I patiently await your next put down!!!!
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        Jul 7 2013: Don't flatter yourself.

        Gloria Steinem will be disappointed then.
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    Jul 6 2013: You mean they are not in charge already?
  • Jul 6 2013: This is an incredibly interesting theory. But that's all it's a theory men are in charge because that is what nature designated us to do but perhaps that order flips in a highly civilized society it's a interesting thought. But i don't think men who are far more aggressive and goal driven will simply lay down and not be in control. I agree with your theory but i simply think that we are getting closer to the point were men and women are becoming truly equal as it has always been in the past that men are the superior ones. This idea is just recently changing starting with women's rights but women have evolved to be under men it will take awhile to reverse this evolution. It is happening quicker in america but just a glance at any third world country and you will realize that the world as a whole is still far from reversing that evolutionary trait.
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      Jul 6 2013: You are absolutely right, it is just a theory...

      And, I agree that men will simply not roll over and let females take over... there will be a huge struggle...

      What is happening in the military and sexual harassment is a perfect case in point... women in the military will change the military forever and how many gung ho marines will want to serve in a military who may have to report to a female officer?

      But, there is data to support more females graduating than males and management positions are typically filled by those who hold college degrees. If there are less males than females with college degrees, it simply stands to reason that more management positions will be filled by females than males.

      Another example... White males used to dominate professional sports and now blacks are dominating professional sports with the attendance at these sports events largely white because they typically have the extra money to pay for the tickets. So, the white community in America is making part of the black community more wealthy.... how will that change the balance?

      Coupled with the fact that our white population is declining due to less births and by the year 2050, whites will be in 4th place behind Hispanics, Asians, and Blacks... But, are we not still all Americans???

      The change in female power is happening right under our noses...

      STEM jobs are going vacant - in other words, industry cannot fill these jobs with Americans but they can with other foreign people who have spent the last several years focusing on STEM. STEM is Science, Technology, Engineering, Math. More women than males in college are taking STEM classes.

      STEM jobs are higher paying jobs... so, it will stand to reason that women will begin making more money than males over the next several years. Those who have money to spend will change the dynamics of the supply and demand curves to focus on females, not males.

      So, if you take the date and extrapolate, you come to the same conclusion.
      • Jul 6 2013: Yes you're so very much right we are becoming a very diverse society but the truth is the real money and power come from the engineers and there are way more males then females in this category. I know that because i'm an engineer and i have been and looked at a lot of engineering schools and at all of them there is like 60 males getting engineering degrees for every 1 female it's a crazy huge difference. When that becomes balanced i will believe your theory much more but math and science is the future and men still have that far better than women.
  • Jul 6 2013: While human society has always been matriarchial look again at ahthropology 101
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    Jul 6 2013: Women were always in charge. They let us men feel we are in control while they were in control all the time.
    This may not be all joke, huh?
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      Jul 6 2013: It is said that behind every great man is a greater woman.