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Carlos Marquez

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How can God exist beyond space and time?

I'm trying to make sense of this "existence" outside space and time. How can something , anything exist yet not exist in space-time? Something completely disconnected from length, width, height, or point in time....
Is this a "truth" that is beyond human comprehension? For maybe this may be one the "truths" that escapes the human intellect. However there are also non-sense statements that require filtering, I believe that existence beyond space and time is one statement that requires filtering.
Does God pops in and out of existence along with virtual particles? Or is God tightly curled up( about a Planck length?) in one or more dimensions of a Calabi-Yau manifold? Or is this existence as useful as the Cosmic Peanut Butter Theory?
Asking if it's possible means nothing, however. The question to ask is, what makes anyone say this? What is the evidence for such assertions? Show me how does anyone got to this statement.
Please as you deploy your arguments don't conflate suppositions with explanations, for these are not interchangeable. Just because it can be imagined, does not make it valid, or even explanatory.
And no scripture as proof.("Behold, heaven and the highest heavens cannot contain Thee... (1 Kings 8:27)) etc, Please and thank you.
Keep the mental contortions civil & courteous, even artful which is always cool. Let's learn from each other!

"You're everywhere and no where, baby
That's where you're at"
Hi Ho Silver Lining


Closing Statement from Carlos Marquez

The operational word in my question was "how" could god or anything exists beyond space and time?, And the core answer after the often heated exchanges is that some folks believe such a fantastic particular possible yet unable to render a demonstrable explanation -why?- because it is impossible.
The incredible thing is that folks believe dogmas as such without questioning. Is similar to lets say slavery or interracial marriage or the prohibition, many in power used (still do ) the Bible to back up such views and today-thanks in a big part by Secular Humanism- are not active policies in our country. Many a Christian believed that all above mentioned stances were correct just as god exist beyond space and time.

I think that as a whole mankind is evolving away from dogmas into new horizons, faith based or divinely revealed knowledge will take a backseat to reason based knowledge. And for that process there is a demonstrable "How".

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    Aug 5 2013: If we take into consideration that this big bang was created due to the density of gravity then it fails to explain how this gravity managed to create the universe we see today for the simple reason that this gravity had only one shot to do it with, what I mean by this is that if you had a gun and a tiger was coming to attack you and your gun only had one bullet then you only have one shot at the tiger, if you miss to the left you are dead, if you miss to the right again you are dead, hence I fail to grasp how the big bang could become accepted to explain the creation we have today and the precious delicate cycle of life." "In other words if you had too much gravity in the big bang then all matter would have been dispersed too far apart and there would not of been enough time for particles to fuse hence no atoms would exist to create the stars or the matter that even we are made of hence the result being no life, if we had little gravity then again the same problem arises, we would not exist because the gravity required was not enough to expand the universe or to later create particles for atoms to form."
    "What we do have today however is that the big bang portrays a universe that was supposedly created by the density of gravity getting it right first time with one shot, I find this hard to believe and too much of a coincidence. Further to this one need only think that if this big bang was the beginning of time and space then obviously it seems we have a direct contradiction because the primeval atom can only had existed if it resided in a time prior to the big bang in order to have existed in the first place and we all know that that combined with the question as to what the universe is expanding into have been the biggest thorns in the scientific backsides. I rest my case as to how it would be possible for God to reside outside ttime and space let alone our current scientific understanding that the universe appeared from nothing, the answer is Apha and omega

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