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Carlos Marquez

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How can God exist beyond space and time?

I'm trying to make sense of this "existence" outside space and time. How can something , anything exist yet not exist in space-time? Something completely disconnected from length, width, height, or point in time....
Is this a "truth" that is beyond human comprehension? For maybe this may be one the "truths" that escapes the human intellect. However there are also non-sense statements that require filtering, I believe that existence beyond space and time is one statement that requires filtering.
Does God pops in and out of existence along with virtual particles? Or is God tightly curled up( about a Planck length?) in one or more dimensions of a Calabi-Yau manifold? Or is this existence as useful as the Cosmic Peanut Butter Theory?
Asking if it's possible means nothing, however. The question to ask is, what makes anyone say this? What is the evidence for such assertions? Show me how does anyone got to this statement.
Please as you deploy your arguments don't conflate suppositions with explanations, for these are not interchangeable. Just because it can be imagined, does not make it valid, or even explanatory.
And no scripture as proof.("Behold, heaven and the highest heavens cannot contain Thee... (1 Kings 8:27)) etc, Please and thank you.
Keep the mental contortions civil & courteous, even artful which is always cool. Let's learn from each other!

"You're everywhere and no where, baby
That's where you're at"
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Closing Statement from Carlos Marquez

The operational word in my question was "how" could god or anything exists beyond space and time?, And the core answer after the often heated exchanges is that some folks believe such a fantastic particular possible yet unable to render a demonstrable explanation -why?- because it is impossible.
The incredible thing is that folks believe dogmas as such without questioning. Is similar to lets say slavery or interracial marriage or the prohibition, many in power used (still do ) the Bible to back up such views and today-thanks in a big part by Secular Humanism- are not active policies in our country. Many a Christian believed that all above mentioned stances were correct just as god exist beyond space and time.

I think that as a whole mankind is evolving away from dogmas into new horizons, faith based or divinely revealed knowledge will take a backseat to reason based knowledge. And for that process there is a demonstrable "How".

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      Jul 26 2013: Hi Juan, I read your note.

      Its pretty well thought through.

      I suggest we know a lot about why theist or deistic thinking and beliefs and religions persist.

      I find it off that at the end of your analysis you prefer to be a theist to get that sense of connection that as you state is not proof, and not limited to supernatural belief systems.

      But I espect your right to choose.

      Hopefully your appreciation that there is no compelling proof makes it less likely harmful teachings be pushed on society under religious umbrella.

      I guess you appreciate that non theists look at the situation and seeing no compelling proof and don't try and immerse themselves in religious situations to get a feeling.

      For me the feeling became hollow once I realized it was probably just natural psychology if I tried to get it in a religious context based on what I realized was unfounded.

      Whereas the feeling in a non religious context via meditation or those lovely moments in life is pure and honest.

      If a theist concept works for you, that's fine too I guess. Once I realized my cultural religion was just like all the others, i felt dishonest until I moved away. A knowingly self created construct didn't work for me.

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