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The introducion of robots in our world, do you agree ?

We are investing heavily in technology. We want more and more and more and are never satisfied with what we have. And it makes me think of teething problems in the future. We'll dominate our inventions? We will not be changed by our inventions? We have so many unemployment.
What is your opinion?

Topics: future robots
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  • Jul 5 2013: Yes you are right there will be many uses but many forms of automation.
  • Jul 5 2013: I don't see why we want to avoid the use of robots. We are afraid that human functions will be completely done by robots, but that should be up to the humans who should decide how much they want it to do or not to do. Then there shouldn't be a problem. On the other hand, increasing number of elderly disparately need robotic assistance in their daily life. If we are afraid of that the robots with their improving intelligence will take over the world, then we simply shouldn't build such robots at all.
    Let me suggest a fail-safe way of the capacity of a robot. We should only build robots which serve as the EXTENSION OF PHYSICAL FUNCTIONS OF HUMAN ACTIVITIES from human voice or push button commands. etc. They are not allowed to think for themselves, with no emotions. Only respond to the commands with "yes" or "can't do it". If the human feels lonely and want to interact with other people, he should order the robot to turn on the TV or teleconference machine to let the the host to talk to some real people. Would that be more enjoyable for him? Moreover, the robot can be very smart, but not humanly intelligent, to automatically connect to its wheel to the wheels, on the wheelchair of the host, or a car, to drive to anywhere he wants to go. All these capacities are achievable in modern technology. On the other hand, human intelligence and/or emotions or interactions are not necessary for our purposes.
    In summary, all these fear of "robots takeover" the world, is all controlled by us, not the robots which we, the humans, made, or going to make.
    Most of you probably saw the video of a paraplegic person wearing a "suit" (functionally like a robot) which can help him to go anywhere. Such a "robot" has hardly the capacity of a revolt against humans. Do you want to strip off such wonderful things from these suffering humans?
    • Jul 5 2013: But the problem is that big and small firms will prefer pay for 3000 robots than pay 3000 people every months. And this we can not control, you aren´t the boss... you are just a simple men who is working to have money for your life... And if we have robots doing our job,certainly that the firms will preferer reduce the costs and increase the money,his money. If people nowadays use corruption to have money they will prefer a legal way to have the same money
      • Jul 5 2013: I posted a comment on TED 6 months before, which would answer part of your talk topic: There are 2 major areas which are going to affect the employment of manufacturing workers and the improvement of the robotics in the healthcare and other human services, especially for the elderly. The former will cause more unemployment among the employable working population and the latter would benefit the living care of the elderly. So I would like to propose a plan to at least partially resolve the 2 problems simultaneously.
        We should, with co-op from the community and house builders, build blocks of multilevel condominiums with many automatic conveyors, some with wheelchairs and hospital style beds as well as inter-com equipments in one wing on each floor of the condominium for the elderly. The opposite wing is for the jobless adult residents with their families including children. The families will pay relatively low rent, and also they could be paid for their services as the floor mangers, cooks, or other services in taking care of the elderly in the other wing. Because of the automation and robotics serving the elderly, heavy lifting, etc. are not needed, so that even teenagers could serve, after a few hours of training. The condominium also have automated food and laundry services, so that the elderly will only need kind and compassionate care. therefore it is really a win-win situation, especially between the elderly and the young when they treat each other as adopted grandchildren and grandparents. because either side will usually enjoy the others' companionship as long as they are not "chained together" all the time. The elderly will pay certain rent and fees if they can afford to. The entire project would be non-profit, with some subsidies from the government.
        You can see that this arrangement could alleviate multiple difficulties for both the elderly and the other families in their financial, convenience, environment atmosphere and emotional well-beings.
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    Jul 4 2013: We don't need robots. We are robots.
    • Jul 5 2013: But robots with feelings and this make a great difference.
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    Jul 4 2013: .My answer:

    Robots make us invalid (harmful) happiness.
    The latter makes us greed.
    Greed makes us all evils,
    including human self-extinction.

    Very probably, robots will “dominate” or enslave humans!

    Wrong?
    • Jul 4 2013: Yes,this is my point of view,with this difficult moments the people will no think in the others, just in yourself and this will have very bad consequences.
  • Jul 3 2013: I think this is a big question about our culture, and requires an historical and cultural context.

    Why do we have technology, and how did we arrive at the particular mix of technology and jobs that now exist?

    The motivation that drives much of our economic activity no longer exists. For thousands of years mankind has been desperately running away from the fear of starvation. Though the wealthy countries can now easily feed their populations, our culture is still not completely rid of the effects of that fear, which is evidenced in the lessons and habits that have been passed down from prior generations. Many people still choose their career to maximize their monetary income. We are in a period of cultural transition. The whole concept that corporations should primarily pursue profit is now being questioned, but our society is finding it very difficult to agree on an alternative mission.

    The purpose of modern technology is to pursue efficiency, producing more from less effort. We have succeeded, and obesity and exercise equipment are the proof of that success. We now produce more than enough, with insufficient effort to keep us healthy.

    In the wealthy countries, the old paradigm has succeeded and it is time to replace it with a new paradigm. I do not know all the details, but I think it will necessarily include occupations that involve healthy physical exercise. Healthy exercise does not include the kind of repetitive movements that produce millions of copies of things very efficiently. For people, those movements are hurtful, but machines do them extremely well. So the use of robots and technology will continue and spread. The challenge is to use technology and robots appropriately, AND design healthy occupations for humans.

    For sure, we will be changed by our inventions. At least, what we do will certainly change.

    By the way, some of us do not want more and more. We are satisfied with enough. I think that attitude is spreading.
    • Jul 4 2013: I agree with you. Our innovations are killing us and this is very worrying...
  • Jul 29 2013: Read this (copy link into search)

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHHUO08bI5qGV5tIyzJY3d_pNrQCQcw_89es7kdNl_M/edit?usp=sharing

    The world has to think ahead!
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    Jul 14 2013: The first and most obvious thought is based on the need who want robot in lieu of human.
    We have potential fields for robot and nothing can halt this innovation with the excuse of unemployment, human domination, threat.
    This is kind of hamartia which will lead a tragedy for the world as a protagonist in a tragic play.
    We are preparing the first plot named the introduction of robot to act for the next generation in that play.
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    Jul 3 2013: An intelligent society is one that incorporates improvements and limits detriments. If robots can participate in social improvement they should be used. If the benefit of implementing robots is limited to investors, special interests, and corporations then it should be scrutinized more carefully. A robot is no different than any other machine. Mechanized society has never had an aversion to machines if they contribute to an improvement for the society.
    • Jul 3 2013: But this situation can have some bad points. Nowadays we did have some new technologies and this technologies have been very bad for the humanity. If robots work very well the big Firms will adopt this system and the people will be harmed.
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        Jul 3 2013: I agree the outcome can be less-than-desirable. My point is that I do not support a categorical prohibition of robots.
        • Jul 4 2013: Maybe they not a support a categorical prohibition of robots but we need separate two things.
          Robots and Humans.Robots cannot occupy our functions.
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        Jul 4 2013: RE: "Maybe they not a support. . ." If you owned a company making and selling a product for a good profit and you discovered that technology is available which would greatly reduce your manufacturing costs, increase your product reliability and overall quality, and eliminate any wait time your customers are enduring, would you refuse the advancements on the basis of keeping your employees? I think you would be out of business soon when someone else adopts the technology and goes into competition with you. Do you agree?
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    Jul 3 2013: "Necessity knows no bound" , whether I personally agree or not, does it matter really ?
    Many people didn't want any nuclear weapon to be there in the world for long , did that stop production of Nuclear Weapon ?
    • Jul 3 2013: I don't know if your opinion is important or not,i just want know if you agree with this innovations and why. This debate has the objective to know the pros and cons. And to help us in a new ideia about this situacion.
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        Jul 4 2013: Yes I agree. Innovation is the most important thing that brought human civilization where we are now today that's the reason. Any downside of innovation human resolved with next innovation .
        • Jul 4 2013: Still not found solution for atomic bombs and maybe we will never find ...
          We are in the economy Difficult moment and certainly que people will not reject the idea of robots working for him without any cost.
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        Jul 4 2013: Hmmm the point of nuclear weapon came ...
        Do you think stopping innovation is the solution ?
  • Jul 3 2013: Automation takes so many forms I'm not sure that it will be so important, but if it is we'll really hear the complaints from the innovators.
    • Jul 4 2013: I think that with time they will invest in this market.