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As a 90's in China, what Li said part is right but part is wrong.

I am not sure where Li's statistics came from, but it must be wrong. Since only about 30% graduates in 2013 get a job and more and more people, especially in Beijing find that it is too difficult to buy a house. Can you imaging that you have to pay 10 million RMB or about 2 million US dollar to buy an apartment about 100 square meters? For me, I have to say I can see little hope. But it is because of the competition. I believe there are so many talented people who can chase their dream, however, for most of us, we see desperation.


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  • Jul 2 2013: As a 90's in China, you should appreciate what you have... 30% graduates... well at least they graduated from college and got a higher education. Why is it necessary to purchase a home? Renting is perfectly affordable and convenient. If demand is so high then of course the price goes up.. that's just simple economic rules of supply and demand. (and the fact that there is very limited space in large cities) Of course anyone has the right to disagree with anyone but I would prefer to watch Li's talk as a simple suggestion or a DIFFERENT way of looking at a situation. A way that you might not agree with but should definitely take into consideration. Also to state that his statstics are wrong is very immature and uncalled for. If you are from China then you must know what it was like for your parents to grow up and the sacrifices they made and now as you complain about unemployment and expensive house prices, be grateful that you have food on your dinner table and internet and phones... I'm not saying the Chinese government is great but it works.. well at least for the china in it's current and past state. Change is not easy and you can't expect everything to get better at once. I'm also a 90's and I appreciate the sacrifices my parents and grandparents made to get me here today.
    • Jul 2 2013: Regard Li's talk as a simple suggestion or a DIFFERENT way of looking at a situation that will make it easy for all to take it.Even the statistics all wrong!And this is the significance of Li's talk
    • Jul 3 2013: I appreciate Li's talk and I really thank him to let more people not only westerns but also Chinese to know and think the world in a different way. And also I am not one only complain about the society, I also work hard. You say rent a house, OK, then do you know how much will it take in Beijing? I have to say it cannot be called affordable. And about "the simple economic rules" , yes there are a surplus in demand, however, some people have tens or hundreds of houses well other have nothing, how could you explain that? It is not a simple supply and demand, it contain a lot of other things. I want China to become better, not on the GDP but on GDP per capita and want the standard deviation could be smaller. I love my country, but we also have to understand the bad part of the society. Right now, I cannot say I understand the bad part of the society, because I agree that I am too negative. This is because everyday so many negative news jump into my eyes but the positive news are so far away. I agree that GDP means a lot, but it means more to the country than to each individual. I remember that in Li's talk, he sail most people in China think China will go better, I agree with that, but what about asking them will you go better or worse? I cannot remember it is Hong Kong or Taiwan or mainland China, a survey said that most people believe the society will go better but their own life will go worse.
    • Jul 3 2013: "Why is it necessary to purchase a home? "No,it 's not necessary.You may not have a kid or you can send your child to school in Chinese country which seems to be anothor country.
      "I'm not saying the Chinese government is great but it works.. well" for official and Guo Meimei babies who has hundreds of houses , millons of money ,billions of ...
      • Jul 3 2013: I agree that that life is harder in China (depending on what country you are comparing to) but do you believe that if China was governed under a democratic party that all your problems and poverty will just go away? My arguement is not over the living standards of China but over Li's talk about the Chinese government. In china's present state in it's development the government at this point in time is working (just look at how far you've come in the past 20 years) Also... replying to the comment about rich individuals with hundreds of houses... DUDE.. are you serious? no matter what country, what government, there will ALWAYS be the rich and corrupt (Li even mentions how China's corruption rating is better than many western countries) I live in the US and the RICHEST people in the world live here...that in no way makes me think it's the government's fault? Yes some are born more fortunately but I do believe in hard work paying off. Li makes a great point in that argument when he states that officials in China actually raise through the ranks from bottoms up.. in a democratic system, leaders are elected based on their popularity and public recognition. Corruption of the officials is NOT just China, just look in the News (Chicago, New Orleans for example) corrupt and rich officals are not just a problem China faces.
      • Jul 4 2013: Come on, be rational. I don't believe there is any parents want to send their children back to the countryside after so many years fighting. They finally get out of the countryside, they will try their best to get all their family out. Though my family (from grandgrandparents) live in Beijing, and sometimes I really hate so many people out of Beijing come here and make the capital too crowded, I have to admit that there is no reason to ask those people who fight out to Beijing or those who live in Beijing for several centuries to sent their children to countryside. Man struggles upwards; water flows downwards. Your claim make me remember the educated youth who have settled in the rural areas in 1970's.
        • Jul 5 2013: I don't understand the reference to parents... if you graduated college, u should be a mature human being (grown ass woman/man) that can make their own decisions.

          Also, I'm not saying they need to move out to the countryside for the rest of their lives?
          I'm talking a few years after graduation (especially since their wage is so low starting off.. this will give them work experience, leadership skills, and build character)
          Here in the US a lot of students will choose to teach english in a foreign country for a few years before starting a career. This also proves to employers they care about society.
          All I see is benefit in doing this... yes it will be tough for a little bit in the countryside but look it as an experience to grow. I don't understand why you would call me irrational for suggesting this?
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          Jul 18 2013: Sorry to jump into the conversation, but I believe this is simply a cultural difference here. In China, "face" is very important. Going back to the countryside to work is like bringing shame to the family's reputation. Of course, in America, no one cares about this kind of stuff.

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