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As a 90's in China, what Li said part is right but part is wrong.

I am not sure where Li's statistics came from, but it must be wrong. Since only about 30% graduates in 2013 get a job and more and more people, especially in Beijing find that it is too difficult to buy a house. Can you imaging that you have to pay 10 million RMB or about 2 million US dollar to buy an apartment about 100 square meters? For me, I have to say I can see little hope. But it is because of the competition. I believe there are so many talented people who can chase their dream, however, for most of us, we see desperation.


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  • Jul 3 2013: Contribute to the society, don't complain too much, cos i don't think a random 20 year old can buy a 200 square m house in sydney or NYC easily either.
    Contribute to the society, that's all i can say mate
    • Jul 3 2013: That's right. That's why I am fighting for myself right now, and that's why I said part of the Eric X. Li's statement is right~~
    • Jul 3 2013: In most cities of China, no houses means your kids have no right to go to pulic school.
      The public school is the only opportunity to receive education for common Chinese people.
      How dare common Chinese to talk about contributions before he/ or she buy a house?
      • Jul 3 2013: I just think it's so funny that in China not purchasing a house means no wife, no children, no future... Many people in Europe and US rent their entire life and are perfectly happy with that.

        Everyone want their kids to go to the big public schools in the city thats why the big cities in China are so crowded and housing so expensive... also explains why school systems in the rural /surburban areas are so bad... this is where contribute to the society comes from...

        I think the people that truly gets it in China are those college graduates that decides to become teachers in the countryside instead of moving to a big city like other kids their age. China definitely needs help right now (not from outsiders but from the inside) 90s are known to be selfish... instead of complaining about everything... go out and help this society... the 2 generations before you sacrificed so much... much more than you can imagine
        • Jul 3 2013: Well, I have to say something to clarify the situation about housing. First, I agree that many people in Europe and US rent their entire life. In China, as Li has mentioned, we have a totally different idea about housing. We have been through a very long time of turbulence and everyone feel unsafe about the future. We seek a sense of safety by owning our own apartment, even it has only one room. Why we are not sure about the future? CPI had increased more than forty times over the past 30 years and how about the salary? Less than 10 times as for the vegetables. No mention the price for housing. If we don't consider the future, how can we survive after we retired? The standard pension is about 2,000 Chinese yuan per month and the price for 1 lb pork is about 16 Chinese yuan. As for relevance, a cup of coffee in Starbucks is 20 Chinese yuan. An ipad which is the same price all over the world is around 5,000 yuan for the cheapest regular iPad. A normal small surgery with the cover of medical insurance is at least thousands of Chinese yuan and the normal rent for Shanghai where I came from is about 3,000 yuan for an apartment with 2 rooms outside the main part of the city where the transporting is inconvenient and no good hospitals. Wanna live at a better place? The rent is far more higher. The pension is far less than enough. Then how can we survive if we are not trying to get a place to live? That's where the no house, no wife, no future coming from. Parents wouldn't like to their children having all of these budget on them. Since the pension is not enough for medical care, adult children need to subside them which makes the situation even harder. The house or apartment we need to spend over millions to buy actually doesn't belong to us. We are paying for the permission to live there for 70 years. As far as I know, there are few buildings now can last for this long.....
        • Jul 4 2013: Have to say your opinion is too simple too naive. I appreciate those who become teacher in countryside. But think about the Maslow's hierarchy of needs to be satisfied. If the basic needs are not satisfied, how could people go to chase their self-actualizing such as not care about money and living standard but to chase the so called dream? Those teachers are like god, but remember we are human but not god.
        • Jul 8 2013: You should know which generation breed the 90s. And you shouldn't blame on 90s. If a generation has something wrong, the society commit to it.
      • Jul 4 2013: I agree with Lisa, it's just in our mind that we have to have a house. It's like our security blanket. And your last sentence is annoying me to be honest - anyone dares to do anything if he/she really wants to. If they don't do it, that means they don't really want to - or not enough. You contribute to the society and at the same time you get paid. I mean, you can't expect one day you wake up and someone knocks on your door and say 'here's a free house'! Having to buy a house is a wrong idea to have, but being cynical and not doing anything to at least try to get one is a worse idea to have.
        • Jul 4 2013: I don't know why you say that. I think you misunderstand my point. People see desperation not means people do not fight. And as Mingqing Chen said, house is important to us, it is not a topic to discuss but a reality or a nature to Chinese in my point of view.

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