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I need help with a dilemma: What does it mean to be American? And Why does it work?

Up-date to thread’s scope: (July 10th)

Thanks for all the comments, they have been very helpful.
I have sorted out my feeling on being American, it maybe a jumbled mess but it is working for me. And to avoid rehashing what has been said I’ll leave it at that.

But the large diversity of views here, and within America’s culture, politics, values, heritages, etc. I have to ask;

Why does it work?

By most standards we are a highly dysfunctional group, and should be a failed society.
But here we are a great nation, and by most logic that should not be the case.
Yes we are the home of the free and the brave, but also home of tyrants, cowards, passive, aggressive, moral and immoral and I could go on and on forever.

Americans are often labeled as racist and intolerant, if that was true we would not have more nationalities and different cultures than any other country in the world.
Being American is a lessen tolerance and that is something we can’t experience in heaven, but I feel the lessen goes deeper than that.


Is American where you live, or is American a belief in freedom and liberty for all?

Firstly let me state I believe we are here to learn from experience that we can’t have in heaven. And recently I have had two events in my life that have me confused as to the lesion I should be learning from them.

My Background: I’m just an average lower-middleclass Midwest American.

Experience 1: I have been researching my ancestry for about a year now, and I feel pride with my findings. So far my ancestors range from English noble that came to America in 1633, to peasant framer and serving maid from Prussia (Germany) in 1820. No slave owners, only union army soldiers, fought for America in the war for independence, etc.

Experience 2: Many people throughout the world, now are fighting and/or protesting for freedom and libe


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I just noticed that when I added the up-date at the top it cutoff some at the bottom.
Basically Experience 2 was feeling shame for the current America and how all the founding values gone, and asked how to address the confecting feelings.
I have concluded that I can feel pride for upholding the founding values of America, and as I witness its fail I should feel sadness instead of shame. And find comfort in that like the Roman Empire it values will live on thought out the world, even though it exists in name only.

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    Jul 25 2013: If a US multinational manufacturing worker creates a job for a worker in China they should pay a tax to America because the freedom and stability created in America allowed the company to become a successful company.

    If a wealthy guy makes money speculating in stocks (sitting on his ass) he should be taxed at the same rate as a nurse that stands on her feet for 10 hours a day.

    The enterprise zones I would create would be huge and utilize new immigrants. Talk to Apple and find out what they would need as far as wage concession to manufacture in the US. Immigrants would be exempt from minimum wage laws. Tax Apples foreign workers to level the playing field. US workers will most likely get the middle management, plant construction and spin off jobs (local restaurants, gas stations etc).

    There is little evidence that immigrants take quality jobs from US workers. Here in Florida there are over 5,000 job openings a year for Orange pickers. Only about 20 or 30 American workers actually seek and keep these jobs. If we don't have enough fruit and vegetable pickers, food will rot in the fields. Resulting in higher food prices.

    Your comments on Education are hogwash. Education should be about learning and not about false scarcity and protecting the wealthy elite. I would be happy to "water down" the sheep skin Harvard degree of the fat cats, if it helped 100,000 other people advance in our economy.

    University of Phoenix is a joke (and expensive) they spend approx. 50% of their revenues on advertising which creates no education value to society. It's all about getting the student's loan money and dumping the student.

    Taxes are revenues.

    We should raise the cost of outsourcing jobs by taxing companies that outsource.

    Actually I think primary schools are great today. The problem is the expense and competition for acceptance into Universities. My daughter had a 3.7 gpa average and was not accepted to state university that I attended or 3 other name brand FL universities.

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