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What's the point?

So earlier today i was having an argument on existence in general with a friend of mine. We went on and on about this and that, he finally asked me what I thought is the point of life? to which I replied none. So he asked me to think of a sphere then asked me where is the point on this sphere? To which i replied none it's a sphere. He then said you're wrong, the sphere has infinite points but your perception is to distant and narrow to perceive them.
This made me think pretty deep about almost everything and i tried to think of something without a point. I then realized there is nothing without a point even the void of space which is essentially nothing still has a point. Because without that void everything would be together as a singularity like when the universe began. Then I realized the only thing that is pointless is what you perceive as pointless without having the knowledge of what its point is.
I eventually gave up on trying to think of something that was pointless as it was pointless. But it made me think of what other properties that a point possesses. I then realized every point has an end. I thought hmmm well does a car have an end? well yes it does when it breaks obviously but then what after that? what becomes of it after the end? what is the point of the end itself?
It then dawned on me that everything i could think of after it ended was reborn into something else. And everything is reborn even if it's not what it was originally. Now my previous example of a car wouldn't be the best as it would take a long long long time for it to decay to its elements and become one with the earth to wait another purpose unless, it was recycled. But everything is reborn into something else in one form or another.
Now i won't go that into my final thoughts on this as Ted wouldn't aprove. But with all these principles i asked what is the point of evolution, the universe and of god and what's their end? and what's their rebirth?

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    Jun 26 2013: It's 42! It's really simple when you think about it for 7.5 million years (reference to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)

    The thing is that you first need to know the question to know what the answer is. And the old "meaning of life" question doesn't really question anything... What's the point of an atom or an insect?

    The only reason why we think that there's a meaning to life is because many like to think that there's been a creator that has assigned us meaning, just like we do with animals and stuff.

    If you believe in a creator the meaning of life is very simple, "Obey thy lords command" if you don't believe in that you can stop asking this question since it's about as good as asking how long Gods beard is...

    BUT if your question is to find your own purpose in life that can be accomplished, but only by you alone. (One fulfilling purpose is helping others, that will most likely give you a mostly happy life.)
    • Jun 26 2013: Completely agree with you on this and I believe in a creator simply because the paradox of a universe we are in something cannot come from nothing. I don't believe in any organized religion because please..that is all wrong on so many levels. I won't go into it but there are so many possibilities of what god could be physically instead of just saying he's somewhere
  • Jul 26 2013: No point.
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    Jul 26 2013: What's the point of green? If you use green for something, it has a point. If you use your life for something, it has a point. Presumably for yourself, and possibly for others. If you don't use it for anything, it's perhaps pointless.
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    Jul 26 2013: .
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    The "point" of bio-evolution is to keep DNA alive.
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    Jun 27 2013: What is the point of the existence of space, time, and the universe if there is no form of intelligence to recognize and marvel at its existence?

    The purpose of life is to live life with a purpose.

    The purpose of an end is to appreciate the existence of time.

    Energy cannot be created nor destroyed only transformed. If objects and people kept their form forever then nothing else would have a chance to exist.
    • Jun 27 2013: Why does there need to be intelligence? Only complexity is needed also, the universe doesn't need to marveled it wants to be, by us.

      and those to reasons are from the viewpoint of a human and what we wish for. Why does there need to be a purpose more than survive?

      If people kept thier form forever which i'm guessing you mean is immortality. It would not cause nothing else to exists it would just mean a ceasing of removal from existance and only adding could occur.
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    Jun 26 2013: Does it means the end of function? Of the end as a subject? The end as an abstract cathegory? Or the end as a particular shape?
    It`s different things and different answers. Nobody wait a car falls into elements. It`s enough a car falls apart, so loose the car function and that`s the reason to say "good bye" and never think about. In our mind the car as a function doesn`t exists.
    I know one opposite example. Once I read about terrible case: not young parents lost the baby and then, being unable to accept it, made the mummy, put it into baby bed and into a glass cube with special athmosphere to have a glance. The article described how the mother felt more satisfied changing clothes to the mummy, then to leave things to come in natural way (to allow the nature destroy dead body into elements).

    In life I saw both examples curiously changed. I saw people made people as a functional things, and people threat things like a car as a beloved mummy. Speaking about the end of everything, we could recall any religion use it good or bad. Truly said, being a Buddhist, I personally prefer Hinduists point of view.

    So the end of everything becomes as an entertainment novadays. People wait an apocalypse the same way they wait for a new seria of Avatar.
    • Jun 26 2013: it means whatever i said it meant and uh i din't get anything you are saying sorry, what is the point you are trying to say?
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        Jun 26 2013: I am sorry for unable to explain it more clear...
        • Jun 26 2013: well it's all gibberish what is the main point or idea behind this? are you supporting the idea or not
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    Jun 26 2013: I don't currently believe in an afterlife or a god, but I can give you some of my thoughts on what I think our purpose in life is. Put stimply, our purpose is to help others. All life forms (sound odd but w/e) main "point" is to advance their own species. For many, this means just procreating, but for humans I think it's a tad more expanded. Our point is to help others live better. You can accomplish this by creating something that improves lives (either saving them or saving their time, money, etc.) or by just serving them (from cashier to masseus to therapist to...). It could even be non-job related. Holding the door open for someone, just being in general a nice and generous person, any other ARK (act of random kindness) can all improve the lives of others.
    • Jun 26 2013: totally agree with you here i'm agnostic so i agree with atheist on almost everything. Because you're right the only reason our world is bad and causes pain is because of us if we were to change that it would end. But irrationality ignorance hate greed has such a deep rooted hold on humanity i believe humans will never see the end to it. I personally think it won't be until our next steps in evolution that we as a species realize this as a whole and do something about it.
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        Jun 26 2013: I've heard different definitions of what being an agnostic means, but never from an agnostic. What does it mean for you?
        • Jun 26 2013: well i got no idea what variations of agnostic you can get i though that was like having different variations of atheism? But I don't believe in any set or organized religion because all of them are just the blind leading the blind from knowledge from farmers thousands of years ago. I just look at life logically, a universe cannot come from nothing it had to be put there no way around that. now i believe there is a god but not one that hovers over you and if you think to yourself real hard he'll help your pet rover. No deff God is just some ultra advanced alien that has the knowledge of everything (infinite knowledge) but to think that this ultra power would care about a bunch of crying monkeys on a shiny blue rock is absurd. But from what i see it is illogical to think there isn't a god i even have a theory or two of where he came from but they are completely unprovable of course.
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        Jun 26 2013: Oh okay thanks! Some of my friends say that agnostic means you think there is a god but don't give a damn haha
        • Jun 26 2013: oh haha i saw that on south park that's what i thought for awhile too lol
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    Jun 26 2013: If infinity has an end then it's no more infinity.
    • Jun 26 2013: well yes obviously but it's end it infinitely far away
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    • Jun 26 2013: well infinity does have an end it is just infinitely far away just as the number is, same with the mirrors. But i'm sorry to burst your bubble but when i said rebirth i didn't in any way mean heaven i meant your dna moves on and your body becomes grass or worm food or someone else's body. Yes energy cannot be created nor destroyed but the electricity inside of your head doesn't get sucked up by gods soul vacuum cleaner we would have noticed by now.
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        • Jun 26 2013: i know i would be there for an infinite amount of time. oh well your right about perception everyone's is limited and actually most top scientist are atheist. science never correlates with religion. Religion may say it correlates with science but it's never been the other way around science is of facts and religion is of "magic".
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        • Jun 26 2013: yeah i watched that all he did is take scientific theory and apply it to what we perceive with our tiny brains of what we think god is. so just like i said religion may say it correlates with science but science doen't correlate with religion. It was interesting none the less but he just took what we will have in future technologies and and realized that Hey, god does some of those things so it's as i said.
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    Jun 26 2013: I think a point in a mathematical sense is not the same as point in the sense of purpose or reason. Further, I don't know that I would consider a mathematical point to have beginning or end, as it has no dimension.

    All this means is that I don't think that mathematical points are naturally a strong metaphor for the sort of point that means purpose.
    • Jun 26 2013: what's the point of the number 1? well its physical point would be on top of the number but i know that's not what you're asking. Its point is represent that interval that we have decided upon to mean 1 and without it math wouldn't work. But as a point as math related i'm cannot think of what you mean exactly could you give me examples of that? like what the point in 2.55 or the point in this graph kinda question?
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        Jun 26 2013: I was referring to your making logical deductions from a point on a physical object (sphere) to a point in the sense of a purpose.

        The number one is abstract and in that sense does not involve points in the way the surface of a sphere does. The same is true of other abstract concepts.
        • Jun 26 2013: well just like a point on a sphere there's an end and it has a purpose. Now as for the rebirth thing i don't know depends what it's made of if it's made within your mind then your mind will use those same neurons in your brain again to picture something else.

          I do not see how the number 1 is abstract. But i am also not following you on how it doesn't correlate with the sphere. I get that you think it's a jump but if they have the same basic properties of a point then it isn't abstract at all.
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        Jun 26 2013: I don't think I can explain this to you here. But the important thing is that anything that suggests an idea to you that you find helpful has been useful for you.

        It is true that you cannot perceive points of no dimension on a sphere. You might also not be able to perceive the "point" of an exercise someone asks you to do. This does not mean that points don't exist in the sphere. It doesn't mean that the exercise has no "point."

        But it does not mean everything has a purpose either.
        • Jun 26 2013: Ok so the first part if i read it right i find extremely interesting and really agree with. I was looking for answers and a way to connect these things so anything that i thought was helpful to connect the idea i took and threw away the others. This isn't true though i try my best to be non bias (which is impossible) but i still try i couldn't think of any contradictions with my ideas so i asked the community.

          I can't follow you on this "it is true that you cannot perceive points of no dimension on a sphere"

          I follow you on the rest though but let me ask you can you think of anything that has no point? now maybe there really is such a thing but with my tiny human mind I perceive nothing without a point or purpose. The only exception is if you simply do not have the knowledge to know why.
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    Jun 26 2013: The evolution we see is the innate ability of each creature to adapt to it's environment. It is not capable of creating the creatures in the first place.
    The Universe is our home, God is our creator.
    This life is to prepare us for our eternal destiny.
    Our eternal destiny is eternal life with or without God. According to our wishes .
    That's the point !

    :-)
    • Jun 26 2013: love the end part there it pretty much sums up everything you need to know "according to our wishes"
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    Jun 26 2013: Charles, offhand this isn't my type of conversation, but if you want to add more time, click "edit" and add more time.