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Billy Zhang

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How would you feel if the government carried out a serious ban on guns?

Here in China, the government doesn't allow the free gun sales and the man who want to have his gun (usully for protecting the forest or animals) legally must have the arm licence which is also hard to obtain.
But I hear about that in many other countries ,any adult can buy guns freely just as biscuits.But as you all know, terrible shooting accidents are happening now and then.
Does your government start to draw out decrees over gun control or gun ban?How do you feel if the government carry it out seriously? I just want to know your true feeling without any offence.Thank you!


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  • Jun 29 2013: I am just amazed with some peoples perspective of where we are as humans in the developed world.

    1) We must realize that, at this time, we have far surpassed the point where we, as individuals or as part of a citizen militia, could EVER defend ourselves from a government (domestic or foreign) no matter what firearms we posses. We also must realize that as civilization becomes more and more advanced, seeking stability and regularity, that the chances of a government being taken over by individuals, who would use the government to oppress their countrymen with violence, becomes less likely. Money has the ultimate power. Even the most evil, rich bastards who run this country want it to remain an uneducated workforce that consumes and remains fearful, not one that derails the gravy train. The argument to bare arms to defend ourselves form the government is absurd and shrinkingly unnecessary.

    2) Some countries have guns and can handle violence, and some countries don't have guns and can handle violence. The USA is neither of these. I am sick and tired of listening to people who have nothing to say other than violence will always be around and not to hope for utopia (as if anyone is asking for that). We can, and must, do everything possible to limit violence. It is not necessarily guns, violent pop culture, poverty, or our law enforcement that is to blame for our problems. It is our fear mongering, in every day life in media, about EVERY single issue, that is at the root of the problem. We have been driven to fear everything throughout the history of this country. Fear of government, fear of indians, fear of slaves, fear of poor people, fear of black people, fear of immigrants, fear of terrorism, and fear of a hopeless future. Until we loose our fear, we shouldn't handle dangerous tools.

    3) Strict background checks, improvement of the mental heath services, and the banning of large clips and assault weapons should go far to help, AND an equal education for all!
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      Jun 29 2013: Inca
      Don't be amazed by some people's perspective on the developed world. Some other people are amazed by how after 10,,000 years from leaving caves, people are just as greedy, self serving, overpowering and murderous as ever. Others are amazed that the human species has survive as long as it has considering the hostile environment it has faced in it's existence and the propensity to annihilate each other.
      You have addressed tools that mankind has used to accomplish his nefarious deeds. You address the fears of some of the people. You state if these people only address their fears, the tools they use would not be necessary. Probably a valid statement. But, what if those fears are repeatedly reinforced. Maybe, not to them, but others. And they see that what others did to cause them harm could happen again and to them. Fear reinforced. Even today, in our civilized world, things are happening all over the world that can only reinforce fears and the need to have tools to prevent those "bad" things.
      And then there are the others. They have no fears. They want power. In the words of the Books Of Moses, they covet their neighbors goods and wives. They want. And they use the best tools for the job. Should all of the best tools be gone, they will use other tools. That is one of the basic instincts of man, the creation and use of tools.
      So, you are saying that if the tools are gone all will be well. I think mankind is not the civilized creature you hope him to be. The only way to reach those levels of civilization is..... I don't know.
      But, I am not sure that addressing tools is the final solution.
      • Jun 29 2013: We, as individuals, cannot defend ourselves from our government, or from a foreign government, or from a highly armed mob, period. It is just not possible. Even if you gave a man a tank he would not survive for more than 30 minutes. It sounds cynical, but it is reality. I am amazed that people think it isn't.

        I am amazed that people think that government oppression is a looming threat.

        I am amazed that people buy into the fear tactics presented on the news and talk shows, created by the conservative think tanks, and funded by billionaire CEOs, who want us to consume more and vote to give them more money and control.

        I am amazed that we treat the mentally ill by throwing them in the prison system (for the benefit of the prison industry) and then we let them loose expecting them to not murder and steal, even though we never helped their problems, an now they have no future with a felony.

        I am amazed that we remain fearful of each other, of the poor, of minorities, of immigrants, and of terrorism to the extent that we are. It does nothing to improve us or keep us safe. Our attitudes are what drives people to hating us. we spin it to seem like a mass murder or a terrorist act is our number one problem when 11,000 (and increasing) people are dying from gun violence in our own country. Obesity and car crashes are a bigger problem.

        Yes, you are right. The tools are not the number one problem. Our culture of fearing everything is our problem. Canada shares much of the same gun culture, poverty and unemployment, violence in pop culture, changing demographics, and history of involvement in our wars, but they do not have the violence that we do. Our differences boil down to how we handle our problems. Here in the USA, we act as if everything is out to get us and that if we have guns we can ensure our safety. Well guess what, we are dead wrong on both accounts. Our guns inevitably end up in the wrong hands, to be used for crime, against our loved ones, or against us
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          Jun 29 2013: So your grand view of man and his civilization was a sham to cover your rather vindictive political views on successful people or those with other political views. In response comes truth. Sorry.
        • Jun 30 2013: The more guns there are in a society, the less violent crime there is, because the criminals are fearful of being shot. If you think shooting a burglar is a sin, and you want to let him kill you as a sacrifice, that's fine. Your choice. My problem is with the arrogance of people who tell me I cannot have more than 10 rounds in a gun to defend myself. How dare you. The belief that one's own rightousness and sense of moral supriority and peacefulness gives you the right to disarm other citizens with anti-gun laws makes you an excellent example of evil yourself, even if you are oblivious to fact. Criminals don't care what the laws are and will always have guns. Anti-gun laws only serve to make it harder for the law-abiding citizens to be well armed themselves.
        • Jun 30 2013: luca: I am amazed that you have failed to notice, among other things, that the 2 "Superpowers" of the modern world ,, the US and Soviet Union,, with all their fancy , expensive weapons, were both defeated by illiterates armed mostly with rifles. I.e. Vietnam and Afghanistan. How do you explan that?! Not to mention all the other heavily armed Thug governments who have been overthrown thru the years.
    • Jun 30 2013: Dude. um.... how long have been been in Iraq and Afghanistan? Who the hell do you think you are kidding to think for a moment that an armed society isn't capable from defending itself even against the best armed military in the world? I mean... WOW you blow me away. while you do make a good argument. You're argument won't be valid for 50 to 100 years if not more. One day we won't need guns.... but I bet we all still have tazers. lol I
      I am sorry though for the foolishness of your first point dumbfounded me to such a degree that i could not continue to read in fear that I would crawl through this computer and strangle you for you're ignorance of the past 10 years. I thought you said 30 mins... right 30 mins? that's how long you said right?
      that was Desert Storm. Not people defending themselves. but people wishing to be free.
      • Jun 30 2013: So you think the people in Iraq and Afghanistan were successful in defending themselves??? Those people are fodder in every gun fight. They stand no chance! even when they had tanks in Kuwait, not a single one of them survived and not a single one of us died. Iraq had one of the largest standing army's in the world at one point. They were demolished. The only reason we suffered some casualties was from IEDs beside roadways and suicide bombers within the last ten years. The only reason we did not end our "war with Iraq" within a Month is because we aren't heartless and we choose not to kill innocents when we can help it. Innocents were the largest group of people to die in iraq unfortunately, which is another reason why the war was pointless. We could have leveled the place in days if we wanted.

        As individuals, Iraqis and afghanis were nothing but fodder. You are kidding if you think they were a success on an individual level.

        SO, you think that in this country, if you went on a rampage with a tank, or with anything for that matter, that you would survive more than 30 minutes. Try it. You will have the news on you in 10 minutes, a full police force on you in 20, and if you aren't down by then, they would have a military strike on you in 30. That is not a joke.

        And to you Clay,
        I would suggest doing a tad more research on the correlation between firearms concentration in a country, and the amount of violence. Some countries like, Switzerland and Canada, have high gun ownership and low violence, but you are dead wrong when you say countries without guns suffer more violence. Many other countries in Europe, like Britain and Germany, or Japan. Have very, very low accounts of gun violence, and in some cases, they outright ban people from owning guns (unless with special permission). Those countries have murders rates ranging in the hundreds or less where as this country suffers from over 11,000 deaths from guns alone. THAT is a huge problem.
    • Jun 30 2013: I just want to asset that I am a little sorry for being so.... rough with my wording. I mean little offence, I'm just dumbfounded by you not consitering the last decade. it's almost like saying, The Afgans and Iraq's should have just shot themselves to save us the trouble of going over there. And please never forget Harvey oswald, or any of the other presidential assassins. They changed the direction of a country with but one single bullet. Kennedy was trying to save us from those bankers I spoke of in an earlier comment. he actually made presidential orders allowing us to print our own money again and dissolving the Federal Reserve Bank...... Then he got shot in the head...... hmmmm.

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