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Billy Zhang

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How would you feel if the government carried out a serious ban on guns?

Here in China, the government doesn't allow the free gun sales and the man who want to have his gun (usully for protecting the forest or animals) legally must have the arm licence which is also hard to obtain.
But I hear about that in many other countries ,any adult can buy guns freely just as biscuits.But as you all know, terrible shooting accidents are happening now and then.
Does your government start to draw out decrees over gun control or gun ban?How do you feel if the government carry it out seriously? I just want to know your true feeling without any offence.Thank you!


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    Jun 27 2013: No guns is a great idea, more guns means more guns. In other words if there were no guns there wouldn't be the need for a single gun. Peace.
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      Jun 27 2013: yeah,I can't agree more! Maybe that's why here in China people seldom ask for owning a gun.
      Thank you for your incisive idea!
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        Jun 28 2013: The day the Sandy Hook shooter slaughtered more than 20 children in five minutes, a man in China also attacked a school. He did it with a knife. He injured many people but did not kill one.
    • Jun 27 2013: What makes you think that?

      Situation 1. A riot happens and the rioters come down your block, going house to house raping and killing. They have no guns but you don't either. You are left to mob rule because you were not armed and the mob was not afraid of death.

      Situation 2. A gang of four comes to your door. They are unarmed and you are unarmed also. They break in and have their way with your wife, your child, making you watch the whole thing, then they kill your wife and children, torture you, and kill you.

      Situation 3. A woman lives alone. She's a rape victim. She refuses to ever be raped again but she can't depend on her neighbors because they won't always be there for her. She feels sad and fearful that she'll be raped again and all she can do is wait for it.

      As it goes now, a mob with guns think twice about attacking a single person with a gun in their home. At least one of the mob is going to die that day. In the LA Riots the mob didn't go door to door looting because it's LA, and behind almost every door is a person with a gun. Death was on the other side of individuals doors and the rioters knew this.

      So you live in a world where the individual is not an individual at all and the rest of us 100+ million gun owners in America will retain our individuality. The only way to be secure against the mob in your world is to join a group yourself or depend on the police, who are corrupt, and take their time coming to help. The gun made man (and woman) an individual who needs no one but his hard work and good morals. No government is needed.
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        Jun 27 2013: Maybe the difference lies in the way of thinking. People with the background of western culture seem have more frequent crisis awareness than people infected with eastern culture.Thus,the reason for owning a gun can be summarized as providing against the potebtial risks am I right?
        Here in China, we tend to think that crisis are small probability events so that we seldom think about owning a gun, even if there isn't a decree over gun ban.
        • Jun 28 2013: I can only speak for America gun owners and obviously I don't speak for all Americans, many of which are vehemently anti-gun.

          Your views on China are interesting. Japan is the same way. Same with Sweden and many or the Nordic countries etc.

          I think because America is a melting pot of ALL the worlds cultures that there are certain societal things that keep the peace, such as work ethic, TRUTH, and yes, guns.
      • Jun 27 2013: So you are saying that we should shape our national gun policy based on hypothetical situations which may or may not ever happen instead of basing it on actual crimes that have happened?

        Situation 1 - The last riot I remember was 20 years ago

        Situation 2 - That was a Charles Bronson movie.

        Situation 3 - My heart goes out to any woman but statistically she has a better chance of having her own gun used against her than she does of ever using it to defend herself. Get a dog.
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          Jun 28 2013: Sorry, it seems that I get the wrong point. American seems have a strong sense of independence and you all want to depent on yourselves rather than the government, even in some emergencies. That's a good character which will benefit you in many ways, especially in dealing with such emergencies and in doing academic researches.
          MANY THANKS!
        • Jun 28 2013: Seriously I don't know where you are coming from. I live near Oakland in California. There are tough parts of the Bay Area where it is literally not safe to go. Most big cities nation-wide are like this.

          There are daily occurrences of mob behavior. For instance on the bus a mob will get on the bus and start robbing and punching everyone and then jump off the bus laughing. This kind of thing happens regularly. Home invasion robberies happen frequently.

          If you want to know what is really going on in the news, don't watch the news, but rather go to your local police departments website and look at the crimes that have occurred. They update the list daily usually and you can see what kind of stuff really goes down.

          So 1. mob rioting behavior happens DAILY in America
          2. Charles Bronson movies happen daily in America
          3. who are you to tell any woman what she can and cannot use to protect herself? Read the FBI stats on gun ownership in America and you will see that gun states have lower crime rates than the states that over-regulate guns.
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          Jun 28 2013: As others have pointed out, most of those are simply fantasies. Crime rates are now lower than they have ever been since such statistics have been kept. You are safer now than you were in the "good old days."

          Guns are dangerous. The raped woman would be much less safe with a gun in her house than without one. If she's that worried about a second rape, then a good stout deadbolt and a roommate or a dog (as someone else suggested) would be best. Counseling would be better.
      • Jun 28 2013: if you can have a gun then they can have guns too.

        situation 1: if you have a gun then so does everyone in the mob, the situation is unchanged. you are at there mercy because there are more of them.

        situation 2: same deal. though if no-one has a gun you can at least run away and try to get help or give someone in your family time to run away. furthermore your gun is somewhere in the house while theirs are in their hands.

        situation 3: same again, without guns she can run, with guns she can be shot while attempting to escape.
        • Jun 28 2013: Situation 1: FALSE. A pack of gun-toting thugs DOES NOT WANT TO BE SHOT. At least one of them is going to die if they attack. That is a strong deterrent.

          Situation 2: FALSE. We all don't have the luxury of being able to run anywhere. Disabled, elderly, children, you name it. Running away from your own home is cowardly and unworthy of being called the one responsible for the security of your own home.

          Situation 3: FALSE. See 2 above.
      • Jun 28 2013: situation 1: not false. a pack of gun toting thugs isn't thinking about not getting shot, they're thinking about doing the shooting themselves. this is evidenced by the countless gang shootouts that happen across the country every year. they don't care if the other guy is armed or not. if your argument is true you must explain why gun-toting thugs regularly confront other gun-toters.

        situation 2: also not false. there's nothing cowardly about running for help when a situation that you can't deal with (such as 4 strong thugs against you and some children) arises. also you haven't disproved my argument that when everyone has guns you definitely lose, but if no-one has guns you still have a chance. you also haven't countered my argument that criminals aren't going to wait for you to go and get your gun, or suggested what happens when you are not home with your family. your argument only works for the single case where you go to the door with your gun in hand and there is only 1 person on the other side of it. in reality it's not like that, they don't announce they are coming and there's always more than 1.

        situation 3: see above? are you serious? "A woman lives alone. She's a rape victim. She refuses to ever be raped again but she can't depend on her neighbors because they won't always be there for her." she shouldn't run?
        • Jun 28 2013: Believe me, in bad neighborhoods where there are gangs and other assorted thugs, whether they are armed or not, they think twice before breaking into homes because they know what is possible on the other side of the door.

          I'll take back the cowardly comment. I apologize. Sometimes the right thing to do, especially if someone is physically capable, is to run away. That said, in my home I have deadbolts on both the front and back door. It would take a minute or two for someone to break in and by then I would have my gun at the ready.

          You do realize that not everyone has the physical ability to run don't you?

          I find it interesting that there are over 100+million American gun owners with somewhere near 300 million guns and we only have around 10,000 gun deaths a year. A large percentage of those are suicides and a large percentage are shootings DONE BY police officers in the line of duty. To attribute 10,000 deaths a year to irresponsible gun ownership is incorrect. And just like any other inanimate object guns can be used incorrectly. For instance, there are more killings done with hammers than with rifles. There are man more deaths per year by car accident and I'd be interested in seeing what the numbers are for people who intentionally use a vehicle to kill someone. There are many more deaths per year caused by prescription medicine than there are by guns.

          This is a no-win argument because Americans are not going to give up their right to own guns at anytime. We see it as a way to defend our Constitutional Democratic Republic. Many instances in history have tyrants first disarming the populace and then exterminating people. The very reason for the second amendment is to protect every other amendment in the Constitution. The Constitution was made the way it was so that this will ALWAYS be a free country.

          The only thing that can be done is to make it harder for criminals and the mentally ill to be able to get them.
    • Jun 27 2013: Funny, when I'm in a bad neighborhood I'm not afraid of guns, I'm afraid of gangs and thugs.
      • Jun 27 2013: Excellent, Michael. One should really never be afraid of guns. One should be concerned with thugs who will use whatever is at their disposal to take what is not theirs. Now one way a person can protect themselves against such thuggery is with guns. I have spent over a decade in Texas, and have gone to initial and renewal concealed handgun license training. In each class, the majority of people were women or older people.

        A gun is a tool, an inanimate object. How they are used is the issue. With over 300,000,000 guns in the United States, a tiny fraction are ever used in crimes. In my opinion, it makes no sense to ban anything because less than 1% of owners use it in the wrong way. Criminals should be targeted, not law-abiding citizens.
        • Jun 27 2013: A hammer is a tool. A gun is a weapon. The key difference is that tools are used to build something else. A weapon is used to kill. You obviously have no basis for that 1% number btw.

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