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Cory Warshaw

Curator @ TEDxUCDavis, TEDxUCDavis


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Science vs God?

I am the Curator of TEDxUCDavis, and I wanted to create a page where people could discuss the talk at my event by Bryan Enderle: Science vs God. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn7YQOzNuSc&list=PLsRNoUx8w3rNNNJZyHiIb3MMhM3QQyiAD&index=10

First and foremost, I wanted to make a disclaimer. The views expressed in this talk do not reflect the views of the broader TED-organization. The selection was made entirely by me and the content was produced entirely by Mr Enderle.

I invited Bryan to speak despite the fact that I am an atheist, and knowing how often I would cringe at these types of talks. In my view what Bryan does differently is merely make a plausibility argument for traits that seem too fantastic to many. He is not arguing for the existence of God. I was once a vindictive atheist who cheered for Richard Dawkins in his debates and despised religious thought. Eventually however, I realized that this debate has been raging for centuries and to simply discount all the brilliant people who had faith would be too simple. There is a debate to be held yes, but it does not need to be so vitriolic and people of both sides can learn from each other.

In this debate section please keep your comments specifically to the points discussed in his talk, and try not to stray to other issues. I think Bryan titled his talk to be deliberately provocative, since it is this false dichotomy between faith and science that he tries to break down in his talk. If we can think how the two philosophies can inform the other, then we can have a productive discussion.


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  • Jun 29 2013: One problem nobody mentions is that in order to talk about this the way you are trying to, the first thing you ought to do is to remove the 'science' from God. A huge percentage of what passes for religion is not based on any kind of religious insight or intuition. It is instead the evolutionary paradigm masquerading as religion. In this way gays have always been held down, women have been held down, and men have been emasculated in their approach to God.

    Take away the evolutionary paradigm, which has been afraid of anything that even smells like a cause for the human genome not to be passed along, and then reexamine religion. Then you are left not with an absurdity, but a persona. Not a wall, but a way.

    Judge not, lest you be judged is the beginning of the scientific method. God, in almost every instance of communication with man, has tried to get man to understand what that means. Only by viewing the world with the kind of thinking that comes with the scientific method can an individual free their personal understanding of religion from the evolutionary paradigm. Only with that way of thinking can they actually see God.

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