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Cory Warshaw

Curator @ TEDxUCDavis, TEDxUCDavis

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Science vs God?

I am the Curator of TEDxUCDavis, and I wanted to create a page where people could discuss the talk at my event by Bryan Enderle: Science vs God. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn7YQOzNuSc&list=PLsRNoUx8w3rNNNJZyHiIb3MMhM3QQyiAD&index=10

First and foremost, I wanted to make a disclaimer. The views expressed in this talk do not reflect the views of the broader TED-organization. The selection was made entirely by me and the content was produced entirely by Mr Enderle.

I invited Bryan to speak despite the fact that I am an atheist, and knowing how often I would cringe at these types of talks. In my view what Bryan does differently is merely make a plausibility argument for traits that seem too fantastic to many. He is not arguing for the existence of God. I was once a vindictive atheist who cheered for Richard Dawkins in his debates and despised religious thought. Eventually however, I realized that this debate has been raging for centuries and to simply discount all the brilliant people who had faith would be too simple. There is a debate to be held yes, but it does not need to be so vitriolic and people of both sides can learn from each other.

In this debate section please keep your comments specifically to the points discussed in his talk, and try not to stray to other issues. I think Bryan titled his talk to be deliberately provocative, since it is this false dichotomy between faith and science that he tries to break down in his talk. If we can think how the two philosophies can inform the other, then we can have a productive discussion.

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    Jun 25 2013: Science deals with the physical world a world that can be measured, length, depth, mass, density and temperature are just a few obvious measurements. What they all have in common is they are limited – they have a beginning and an end or a fixed number. The temperature of a body is a fixed number, not an infinite number. The distance of a star is X numbers of light years but not infinity. My IQ is 80 but certainly not infinite. A god by definition is unlimited – god has no limitations. He or She is almighty all knowing all – whatever. So, if a god were to take on limitations, then she or he would no longer be god – or a god. In order to interact with the physical world – or universe a being or a god must have limits. A god with an unlimited hand could not create, mend or bend anything in a physical world. A being must have a hand or attachment that is small, medium or large in order to interact with the physical world but must remain limited in it’s use. Thus, god must be a spiritual being if she or he exists at all. As such god only stands by and watches the world spin round and round. She’s waiting for you! Maybe!
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      Jun 25 2013: Hi Vince.
      I agree with your analysis. You have just given a potted version of the bible.
      Jesus Christ created the universe.
      He came to earth & lived among us for 33yrs.
      He returned to eternity.
      He will be back shortly.

      :-)
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      Jun 25 2013: What would you describe as a spiritual being? Within infinity for these measurements, where should we start counting?

      A yard? One postulate was that the yard was derived from the girth of a person's waist, while another claim held that the measure was invented by Henry I of England as being the distance between the tip of his nose and the end of his thumb.[14]

      And to me a yard is green/brown grass behind my house

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