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Did you know this about TED?

This Conversation is meant as a Conversation where we share all the things we've learned about TED that may be of interest for the TED community.

It's for all the small (and big) things about TED that we've found out that we can't really share anywhere else.

Like who made the first TED account ( http://www.ted.com/profiles/1 )
Or that there are about 200000 protected profiles on TED
Or that...?

You know, the silly things that some of us like so much.

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    Jun 18 2013: People don't know this, but you can actually write FUCK in a TED comment, if it's justified.
    • Jun 18 2013: Gerald,
      A sad example of your treasury of freedom of speech.
      But, in today's moral fever, it was to be expected.
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        Jun 19 2013: swear words are not for the prissy but they are a legitimate part of the language and hold a legitimate place in everybody's vocabulary. often, they express how a person feels more accurately than attempting to eggshell-tiptoe around other peoples' sensitivity.
        • Jun 19 2013: Scott,
          Nothing wrong with not owning a value system.
          And, a lack of vocabulary is more easily hidden with swear word or two.
          As I age, I watch my children and grandchildren spew vile words in
          everyday conversations.

          I am so glad I was raised differently.
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        Jun 19 2013: say rather "not owning a value system that is the same as yours".

        curbing a person's vocabulary out of some traditional sense of appropriateness is akin to censorship.

        if you don't like swear words then don't use them but don't get all "high-road" with others that choose to.

        you may have missed the humour present in Gerald's post by focusing on the naughty word.
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        Jun 19 2013: It got me thinking about the evolution of language, differences in generations and variety in value systems.
        It was worth not censoring.
        • Jun 20 2013: Gerald,
          Still, I have a problem with lack of good manners.
          A Victorian attitude to be sure. But one I am proud to use.
          What you print on the internet is read by adults and children
          with some parents that want to protect their children from such
          you shared. It is a easy thing to dismiss. Obviously you did.

          Intellect comes in many forms and colors.
          Yours, a bit darker than mine.
          I am so glad I was raised differently.
        • Jun 21 2013: I find it astonishing, that you, sir, who are openly against aggression in language has to underline and undermine your statements with subtle, but noticeable aggressions and insults such as " Obviously you did" or "Intellect comes in many forms and colors. Yours, a bit darker than mine. " or "I am so glad I was raised differently." or " Nothing wrong with not owning a value system." or " And, a lack of vocabulary is more easily hidden with swear word or two. " or "A sad example of your treasury of freedom of speech.
          But, in today's moral fever, it was to be expected.". I thank you sir. For showing little children how to poison an serious and objective discussion and how to insult without swear words.
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      Jul 1 2013: ...and you've just proven you can as it is STILL here! The comment, I mean :)
  • Jun 19 2013: Scott,
    You can and will speak using any language you choose. That is a given.
    I am so glad I was raised differently.
    A bit more "high-road" for your pleasure.

    And, yes Scott, I did miss the humour in Gerald's post.

    I see you've not used a naughty word, although you could have.
    I appreciate that. Thank you.
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    Jul 1 2013: I recently went back to a conversation area that I was involved in and soon discovered that my whole comment had been deleted, along with about 5 other posts from other TED members!

    I was a bit surprised that mine had been removed as I always am mindful of what I say and post and so feel that a degree of cencorship had been applied in an uncaring manner.

    By this I mean that, I had put a lot of thought into what I had put up and was very fair in what I had to say and used no profanities or racial/religious slurrs etc, yet, my comment was wiped!

    Now I feel somewhat uneasy as I do not know whether my posts will be mysteriously deleted....no explanation...no idea as to what was said on the back of what I had said from others.

    It seems now like we can only perhaps view a sanitised version of TED comments, censored for what purpose?

    If freedom of speech is a right, then what has become of this right in the context as I have described above?

    If the ethos for TED is about spreading ideas, then how can there be this if there is such a thing as a wrong idea which culminates in cencorship/deletion.I had always thought that there was no such thing as a bad idea and if something was, then conversation and clarity would sort it out...... : D
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      Jul 1 2013: Time Traveller,
      I think I know the conversation you refer to, and my comments were removed as well. Unfortunately, that conversation evolved into personal comments that were off topic and disrespectful. Your comments in that conversation were very helpful and appropriate in my perception.

      The TED terms of use allows TED moderators to remove disrespectful, off topic comments, and often, the whole off topic thread is removed, rather than leaving some comments that are no longer relevant to the topic conversation.....make sense?

      Usually, TED sends a notice to you which says something like.....sorry your comment was removed because it was a reply to another comment that was removed.....or something like that.

      Your comments seem very thoughtful, respectful and on topic, so don't give up.....ok?
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      Jul 1 2013: What Colleen writes here is correct. If something you wrote in Conversations is itself considered inappropriate, you will always get an email from the moderators about it. Sometimes there is a part of a thread in which someone is being sufficiently disrespectful of others to be in violation of terms of use, and in that case, the perfectly valid comments in response might be eliminated along with the comments in violation, because they would just be hanging there without anyone's being able to understand them out of context.

      The standards for deleting comments from the actual talks area, are, I believe, different from the criteria here.
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    Jun 23 2013: I am going to share this here, I have shared it before in other conversations.

    Did you know that AFTER a conversation CLOSES, the TED member that posted the thread can still access it, and post CLOSING REMARKS.

    These closing remarks appear in a gray box at the top of the thread.

    Doing this allows a future reader to have a good idea of the major points of the conversation.

    Still, today, after being a TED member for a while, I rarely see anyone enter closing remarks.

    I think it is a nice thing to do, I think it is good TED ediquette.

    It is never too late to go back to your old conversations and enter closing remarks.
    There is no time limit.

    Just click over there at the left side of the screen where SEARCH CONVERSATIONS appears.
    Change the Search: criteria to "Conversations by" then type YOUR name, and all the conversations you have ever started will display.

    You can then choose to enter your closing remarks......you get to have the last word. :)

    I hope more TEDsters use this feature in the conversations.
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      Jun 24 2013: Have you ever compared the closing remarks to the way you might have summarized the discussion in the thread?
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        Jun 24 2013: Are they not one and the same?
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          Jun 24 2013: Sometimes people open a conversation with a particular view and report essentially that that view was vindicated. In an active conversation, it can be challenging to represent the range of central ideas in a way that captures the debate or discussion.

          The summary is interesting for what the host of the thread took away from it, which may be quite different than what others in the conversation or a silent reader might.
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        Jun 24 2013: It can be a challenge to represent the range of central ideas in a way that captures the debate, but we can still give it a go. I have seen conversations with 16 comments, and still no closing statement.

        I think that, besides showing good manners, putting something of a closing statement at the end of a conversation shows that the originator of the post took an active role in the conversation, and walked away with something........and if they lack words, they could at least thank the participants.
        I think it shows respect for others, but of course this is my personal way of living, I cannot expect everyone to be the same.

        I kind of see it this way........how often do you call someone up with a question, listen to them ramble on with their reply, then hang up the phone without so much as a good-bye?

        I, personally, like to click on conversations that have ended, in a hopes to get some sort of closure. Even if I did not post a comment in the conversation, I am hoping to get a summary or an idea about what went on.
        And, if TED provides you with this feature, why not take advantage of it?
        But, I have been sadly disappointed in the lack of closing statements which are posted.
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    Jun 18 2013: Hmmm, or rather things that make you go hmmm. I am relatively new to this whole TED experience, while at 50 + TEDCRED Jimmy you are somewhat more experienced!

    I like your thinking, in so far as you create circumstances that initiate future/big picture ideals! From memory, I think there are some 200,000 TED members. I had mentioned in one of my posts somewhere here that only approximately (I think it is statistically) that only 5% of that membership will put up posts, the rest are readers.... so what is that then, 10,000.... from what I've seen it is nooooowhere near that amount! My reckoning 1000 tops, which would then be what, half a percent of 200,000!

    What can we conclude, from this, I don't exactly know but it does profer the question, of an online membership such as this, how many real members are there? That is to say, posters can be counted, however readers are unqualified, tho dare I say when they sign in there would be the potential to track membership traffic!

    Furthermore, I have noticed that you only put a short 1week time frame for your post, (as I now know) with the knowledge that if there is a lot of interest in it, you can extend it for a month. In my newbie ignorance I posted an idea with a 1 month time frame and pretty much seem to be the main contributor to it now after only some 10 posts and 28 odd days to run!

    I have also noticed that there is a particular topic that (apart from my TED Prize one) people avoid. It has to do with a religious belief that from my observation, people are SCARED to discuss for fear of being potentially subject to consequences that they would rather not potentially subject themselves to. As clearly am I, which is like Voldemort (of Harry Potter fame) Iwon't mention.

    Also, consider, what becomes of all our TED words posted here? Who owns them? Where do they go? What becomes of them and what is the TED big picture ideal and when will the TED Community be informed of it? What does TED stand for? Who made it up!:D
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      Jun 18 2013: If you click on the link above that reads TED Community, you will see there are a bit over 189,000 members with photos and something over 1.74 million without photos.
      • Jun 18 2013: Fritzie,
        I haven't learned how to take my picture yet, not how to upload.
        Of course, I just don't care to try. lol

        TED is a great way to waste a couple of hours fighting over niggly points.
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        Jun 20 2013: Thanks for the update Fritzie, re TED member numbers! Wow it is 10 X larger than what I thought ! This then makes my speculation on the number of members who end up posting on the TED medium even significantly smaller again, proportionality.

        Still curious to know some of the answers in terms of the bigger picture as I posed in my earlier post ! : D
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          Jun 20 2013: Here is what I can tell you. TED stands for Technology Entertainment Design. The mission is to spread ideas, which the non-profit does in a continuously evolving way by gathering the most interesting and creative speakers across fields and bringing communities together to listen to and interact about them. Some of this is live via conferences, where talks can trigger collaborations among those in attendance. The TED Prize winners are some that can become a focus for collaboration, but any speaker's project might, as those in attendance interact with them during breaks.

          Another component is online, where anyone in the world can listen to and comment on the talks for free, engaging also in discussions about other ideas, as we do here

          There is no mystery to me in people's being members yet not participating in online discourse. One needs to sign in to have an alert of talks delivered to the email box, and the number of people interested in hearing the talks would, of course, be vastly greater than those who might want to converse here. There is little overlap, for example, between the TED speakers people want to hear and people posting online.

          There are groups of people who listen to TED Talks together or listen and then get together. So the ideas in the talks travel through word of mouth and discussions take place in lots of private venues among people who want to discuss the ideas together. The TEDx events are kind of like this, except that those are independently curated by the hosts of those.

          I expect TED would love to see ideas presented here and people connected by and inspired by them to take actions that solve problems and improve the quality of life on the planet.

          I do not notice general avoidance of religious topics here. People who do not participate in those likely have a range of reasons other than the one you mention. Some people are not interested in religion. Some are private about faith. Some notice and expect to read mainly hardened views.
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      Jun 18 2013: Well, as Firitzie says there are 1.74 million accounts that show up when you do a worldwide search more members with or without photos http://www.ted.com/profiles/browse?name=&company=&country=&sort=date&hasphoto=0

      And I managed to find out that there's been at least 1.92 million accounts created. You do this by adding the numbers 1920000 after http://www.ted.com/profiles/

      If you check the ratio of the first twenty profiles you will see that many are private profiles and some seem to have been deleted (Chris Anderson has profile number nine http://www.ted.com/profiles/9 ) .

      Maybe the Wiki can lead you somewhere on the history of TED http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TED_(conference)
      • Jun 18 2013: JImmy,
        I am positive your research will find eager readership.
        Do you have anything to do in life?
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    Jun 26 2013: Did you know that there's a thesis paper on "TED Conversations as a community". I just found out now (Googled my name and 4 pages in there it was).

    It's 15 pages long and was written in 2012. Sadly for many of you it's in Danish BUT you could always translate it if you're really curious.

    Here's the pdf http://isabelaagaard.dk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Ted-Conversation-som-Community.pdf
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    Jun 19 2013: 189,726 members of the TED Community have a profile with photos
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    Jun 18 2013: What's wrong with having a protected file. I'm of the old guard, I value or like a small group around me rather than an open book, which is perfectly fine for everyone who likes it or prefers it. I don't have much to contribute other than the dribble that formulates behind my eyes. Why is there such an interest in protected profiles ( not that it is a global issue) but it seems to crop up a lot.
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      Jun 18 2013: I didn't say that it was wrong, it was simply an example of info about TED that i thought few knew... Nothing more.
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        Jun 18 2013: Of course, i just used it as a launching rant Jim. There is a group of humans out there that believe a blanket one mind one thought society is our future where all is divulged and nothing is sacred yet we have had this communication medium for only 20 years and already the group mindset is skewed. Without knowing it people have become vampires of others details. quite a neurotic post, conspiracist mania? He heh! Good to see you on Jim.
    • Jun 18 2013: Ken and Jimmy,
      You guys can make a lot of something out of nothing.
      And, I'm just as bad. I am here writing this.
      Arrruggh !!!!!