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Does employment = Good for society?

I hear this argument over and over again "It produces jobs, so it's good for people".

But surely there must be jobs that aren't good for society and therefore not really good for people in the long run.

Working in a factory that produces bombs is one example I often bring up. You get a salary, pay taxes and are able to provide for your family. BUT you make bombs, tools for killing.
I believe that the same argument can be made for: Narcotics trade, Human trafficking, Elite sports, Patent trolls and so on.

What's your take on this? Are all jobs good because they are jobs? Shouldn't we always look at what the result of those jobs are before making the argument that jobs are good?
Do you have any examples of jobs that are normally perceived as good that you really think are bad for society?

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    Jun 17 2013: Not necessarily, the idea of someone being employed brings up the idea of people being able to create sufficient means to sustain their lives, but employment is not the only way this can be done. Today people are being scared into minimal paying jobs because of a fear of debt, and if the society was completely made out of jobs for people who are afraid of going into debt and the jobs themselves are not even enjoyable then theres no point in employment. There needs to be a creation of a resource based economy where people can be provided for without having to worry about losing their basic necessities. and the labor jobs that nobody wants to have can be taken over by technology while the jobs that require human thought can be taken by people but those jobs would not create an inequality and would be taken by few people but that system would mean more people are cared for and can spend time doing the things that they enjoy to do.
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      Jun 17 2013: Hi Jacob,

      That's precisely how I feel.
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        Jun 18 2013: Im glad! its nice to see people really thinking about the world issues from a truly unbiased perspective and I seriously commend you for that. For a long time ive been arguing that the idea of full employed, which was brought up by economist Milton Friedman, should not be the goal of society anymore, that work for profit is not a necessity of life. Its wrong to create low paying labor jobs for the purpose of keeping the economy in circulation. If our economy was focused on protecting human life, preserving nature, and minimizing inequality, there would be a lot less worry about "employment" and a lot more focus on work for the sake of human progress which are the jobs that we really need.
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        Jun 18 2013: btw, i noticed that it says you live in Sweden. lucky! I've always wanted to live in Sweden! (well any of the Nordic Countries really)
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          Jun 18 2013: Yeah I'm lucky that way. Have to put in a lot of work to keep it good though and it's not going to well over here with our system..
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        Jun 18 2013: Oh really? did Sweden get hit hard by the EU's recession? and anyway at least your don't have to live in the US...
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          Jun 18 2013: We got out of the recession better then most, but our right-wing government sold basically every state owned thing there was (well not everything but very much) to balance out the books, so now we have to rent our schools and hospitals back from private companies... Also there's nationalism (read racism) on the rise and they made it to parliament last election.

          But we'll fix it!
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        Jun 18 2013: oh man that really sucks, I hope you come out of it ok, the nords always seem to come out ok :)

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