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Antonio Gonçalves

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The weight that football has in our world today

Nowadays football is responsible for moving millions of euros. This is a problem?What is your opinion?
Why Germany is investing so much in this sport?

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    Jun 16 2013: Isn't it about "panem et circenses" providing a circus so that people won't complain if they only get bread to live on? It's a big problem everywhere. In my city for example, we're cutting down on health, education and most activities. But still they want to build a brand new arena for a total cost that could double the amount of teachers and healthcare personnel for at least 10 years.

    So, yeah... People are dying while others watch the circus.
    • Jun 16 2013: However the football have enermous weight in the city econmy, you can see the investiment in world cup or in others competitions. The football atract millions of people and they have pay airplane,bars,restaurants,hotels and many other activities. Football have money because they produce money.
      How many people work in this sport....
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        Jun 16 2013: Yes, it has economic weight, but only because we put money into it. Attracting millions of brief visitors to a place might have an economical impact on that community. But that money is taken from somewhere else, someone could have payed more tax to fund more hospitals or something that contributes to the well-being of all instead of investing it in this entertainment.

        Many of the hotels that are built can not be sustained without the football event and they therefore often disappear as quickly as they've come. The same goes for restaurants and bars and so on.

        The same argument can be made for war, it employs a lot of people and they make a living out of it, they build a lot of buildings that quickly disappear when they are gone.

        Football doesn't produce money, The treasury of any country makes the money, football just moves a lot of money around and it often moves it to places where it's not doing optimal good.

        How about all the extra police that are required, is that a good way to spend money?

        How many people work in the war industry, or the drug industry? Just because it provides jobs does not make it right.
        • Jun 16 2013: Good evaluation. Football have amazing things but i agree with you. I have just talk about the other activities and others pros to see your point of view. The problem is the high costs. One player can't cust 1 million. This is shameful.
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        Jun 16 2013: Thank you.
        High cost is a big problem, but I also find the whole elitist point of view very damaging for society as well. Many people actually believe that they CAN'T play football!? That only one who is fast and has a good sense of motor skill is good enough to play.
        Playing is supposed to be fun and everyone is supposed to be able to do it. People just need a field and friends to play football, no shoes or shirts are really needed. But if you don't look right or if your not physically strong enough it's thought that you're not good enough to play this game... Shameful really.
        • Jun 16 2013: Completely agree. But this problem can be saw in many others sports, however in football we can saw very well this problem because normally the fat guy is the goalkeeper... and others similar cases.
          This is a problem which may originate other problems.
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    Jun 22 2013: thankyou for explaining so well.Why not invest money in a way of being as a culture that both generates a smooth currency flow and is populated by a real show of support by the people...seems good all round
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    Jun 21 2013: Germany is the one country where all moiney is printed..it has been explained because they are the only ones who have the ability to create modern bills(????) So a country which creates money,is a world wide disrtributer may have in its expertese further goals to kick it towards their own end zone. On an absurd note..as a female I have always found a bunch of men runing after a ball resembles a biological event in which a single egg is sought after by hundreds of sperm..that all sports involve egg like objects fought after by groups of competitors. Once I experienced this view,I cant remove the metaphour of sports being a militarized version of sperm capturing the prize egg. If one asks many what is the pupose of man..it is to survive,which means future generations...all sports mimick this "fundemental quest" Hence Germany is in fact our frontrunner in a giant survival game(?) this is outside the box,but as an artist somehow seems relevant
    • Jun 22 2013: Germany is a great example of country who invest his money in football.
      Germany is the country who have more peolpe in the stadiums and is one country where football players have enormous wage.
      I am not saying that Germany are the main responsable for the investment in football, what i am saying is that football involve to much money and this money envolved in football have his goals,like active de economy,
      to entertainment millions of people and to give employ.
      And what i want to know from you are the opinion about this investment in this sport.
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    Jun 19 2013: This another way of escaping, leave your life and stay alive.
    • Jun 19 2013: But the money could be very useful for those have little to survive. And most importantly ,take care of others than worrying about entertaining.
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    Jun 17 2013: Sorry just jumped in so , without reading the conversai below i will just speculate that it is the modern hippodrome. Like what the romans used to have to keep the mob enticed.
    • Jun 17 2013: Maybe... and this entertainment justifies so much money ?
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        Jun 17 2013: I will ask my contract partner as he is soccer nuts, he's Urugyuan and they are a little psychotic when it comes to football. I think an 18 year old player sold for something like 50 million. It's a hard game and the element of surprise or the odds pending on ones knowledge of the game and the players can be addictive but i think most people choose a side and stay loyal just because it's their side. In britain they are loyal probably because that's all they have to look forward to each week.

        So why so much money? The clubs and the banks and all those people out there willing to pay their membership each year. We should just fight wars on the soccer fields, less bloody but the carnal avarice of the mob will still be there.
        • Jun 17 2013: But the clubs have enormous debts and his debts make difference in the bank accounts.
          Barcelona 320 million debt.
          This 320 million would be very usefull to pay hospitals,schools and other essencail services.
          What is more important ? Your entertainment or save children ? With the money that teams pay their players we can save thousands of pacients.
          Football is good but we should reduce the costs....
          Do not agree with me ?
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        Jun 17 2013: No, I don't agree Antonio. They are private commercial entities not national assets but i do understand what you mean. What it really comes down to is " Yes, one man is highly skilled in the game so , lets up the game by upping the perceived value of said player by paying enough money to feed spain for a month"

        We fool ourselves with vain fancies of worth by attaching perceived value and market it as such to others but in reality it's false like the falsity of glamour.

        Greece starves, Spain starves yet they find the money to buy the tickets to go to the games.
        • Jun 17 2013: But are things that you can not ignore. The huge salaries paid by some teams are shameful. And we have saw players like xabi alonso,mascherano and others who have his money in offshores....
          But in other side i agree with you. I love football and i can understand the importance of this sport in our life nowadays.
        • Jun 19 2013: It is also important to mention the conditions imposed by FIFA to hold a World Cup or Euro ... The conditions imposed entail huge investments and constructions millionaire. And the worst is that after the completion of tournaments countries have enormous difficulties to pay the constructions.
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    Jun 17 2013: Well, Antonio, apparently you think it might be a problem, or you think somebody believes it's a problem, or you wouldn't have started this debate. In what way do you think it might be a problem? Is it just soccer, or are you talking about other sports as well?

    Personally I'm not much of a sports fan, but many people like it. I can see some good in it, because watching professional athletes encourages ordinary people to exercise and be physically active. Also, sports teach us more about the physical world and how to use our bodies to manipulate the physical world.
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      Jun 17 2013: Hi Greg,

      There are some positive effects, can you also see the negative ones? I made a comment a bit down where I list a few that I think are negative and greatly outweigh the positive ones.
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        Jun 17 2013: well, your criticisms are rather complex, Jimmy, possibly beyond me. To me, it seems people need entertainment, that it is a legitimate need, not just "bread and circuses." Even the name of TED stands for Technology Entertainment Design. Do you yourself consume entertainment in some form, and what is it?
    • Jun 17 2013: I have started this debate because i know people who love this sport defend the millions of dollares invested in this sport but i know other persons who think that the people should use the money to help hospitals,schools,,,,

      In my opinion sport is very important, but the main problem in this situation is the money, the money spend in players, in infrastructures and other things....

      But we can see another face of this question. If we think the big cities have big teams.... Can not be related ?
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        Jun 17 2013: Well, I'm not an expert, Antonio. I believe entertainment is a very basic human need, that if we didn't have entertainment, you would see stress levels increase, more crime, and other problems. So the entertainment of football is valuable.

        Do you consume some kind of entertainment? Is it movies, music, or what?
        • Jun 17 2013: Of course that entertainment is very important,but the question is the high costs! In this debate i want to know what do you think about the millions spent in this sport.
          I agree with you when you say that football is a great entertainment and this is a advance but in your opinion football is a good way to invest money or you think that we must invest less money in football and more in other sectors.
          I love football. Football is my favourite hobbie.
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        Jun 18 2013: Well, Antonio, the problem is I don't know how hard of work it is to be a professional athlete, do you? How much effort does it take, how many hours per week do you practice, how strenuous are the practices? I think I may ask about it, if I get the answer I'll get back to you. Or if you ask around, let me know. We also have to figure that athletes are much more vulnerable to injury, so that is part of why they are paid well. Well, I don't know about soccer, do soccer players get a lot of injuries? Also, pro athletes have to move when they get traded, I think some of the money is compensating them for the stress and difficulty of having to move. Also, a pro athlete is always representing his team, even when he's just walking around his neighborhood he has to make a good impression for his team, there is some stress in this, so that is part of why he is highly paid.
        • Jun 18 2013: I just talk about football and no about others sports... and i think that to be a good football player we must practise a lot but to be good in other sports we need too practise a lot.
          I do not agree with your argument about injuries... if things are as you are saying, the people who would have more money are the people who go for war.
          Football player can have many stress or many problems but we have too and we haven´t so much money....
          In my opinion Fifa must do a law against high values...
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        Jun 19 2013: well, I'm okay with athletes making a lot of money because they are making it from ticket sales, and whatever these athletes have, it is desirable enough that the teams can charge a high price for tickets. If you lower the amount of money they make, they probably won't work as hard or perform as well, and you may find, Antonio, that you don't enjoy the sport very much any more because you are watching inferior performances.
        • Jun 19 2013: You can have some reason about that. The players maybe can have high wages but are others things.... I live in Portugal and we have 2 or 3 stadiums since Euro 2004 and we are still paying and one of them are in risk of demolitacion.
          And i don't know if you know but Quatar want build one artifial island to Worl Cup in 2022....
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    Jun 17 2013: If it gives gainfull emplyoyment to many , its a service.
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      Jun 17 2013: So does war... Or narcotics or human trafficking... Does employment = Good for society?
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        Jun 17 2013: Jimmy Hi,Point taken. I will reframe my answer

        If it gives gainfull and harmless emplyoyment to many , its a service.

        It is said ,"Do not give alms instead give a person employement, so that he can lead his life with honor.
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          Jun 17 2013: Hi Adesh,

          I made a post further down on the harmful aspects of sports (football), I would be glad if you read it and got back to me with your viewpoint on those points and if you still believe that elite sports is good for society.
  • Jun 17 2013: Think that FIFA might be an offshoot of the illuminati. Should be good for the sport.
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    • Jun 16 2013: Yes, i understand your opinion. The Germany have invest strong in football because they have money and because football is good for the economy. This is one of the countries that can explore very well the benefits of football and this year is a good example.
      (when i say that Germany is investing in football my main objective is demonstrate that football is a good way to invest).
      Another thing important in this matter is the infrastructure, the teams should be very carefull with bad investiments in this sector.
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        • Jun 16 2013: Of course, Germany have money,Bayern bought Javi Martinez (50 millions)! Now they bought gotze. About the investing in youths, Germany have so many good players ,like gotze,kross,reus,shurrle.... and many others. Germans didn't have so power in football like in this moment and this is due to financial great moment.