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Can AI help in solving the problem it's creating?

Watson, Asimo and their robot pals are creating a society with new problems in terms of labour, income, inequality etc - can't their computing qualities be programmed to help find some novel solutions?

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    Jun 18 2013: There is a point in time Douglas that will indeed answer these questions and so much more. That point in time is refered to as "The Singularity".

    Jimmy's timeframe of being 15-20 years away is possibly how long til it occurs. You may like to google, Jason Silva, who has much to say on this whole AI area. He even has just started on Nat Geo his own program, called, "Brain Games".

    J'pense il y a nous vie epoch une vrai monde que etat avec intelligence artificial! Excuse moi si mon ecrit ete ne bon pas! : D
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      Jun 18 2013: I thought the Singularity was a Sci fi novel - but found this on Wikipedia

      Technological singularity

      The technological singularity is the theoretical emergence of superintelligence through technological means. Since the capabilities of such intelligence would be difficult for an unaided human mind to comprehend, the technological singularity is seen as an occurrence beyond which events cannot be predicted
      Proponents of the singularity typically postulate an "intelligence explosion", where superintelligences design successive generations of increasingly powerful minds, that might occur very quickly and might not stop until the agent's cognitive abilities greatly surpass that of any human.

      Kurzweil predicts the singularity to occur around 2045 whereas Vinge predicts some time before 2030. At the 2012 Singularity Summit, Stuart Armstrong did a study of artificial generalized intelligence (AGI) predictions by experts and found a wide range of predicted dates, with a median value of 2040. His own prediction on reviewing the data is that there's an 80% probability that the singularity will occur in a range of 5 to 100 years.[
      • Jun 18 2013: I know this might sound weird, but I think my research will bring forward significantly the singularity. Allow me to qualify my statement. I have solved the fundamental problems of AI, by doing the following- (1) believing that cognition IS computation - first that the mind is software, the brain is hardware, language is the UI (2) taking each of these areas in turn, and developing a realistic model of each. I have just finished the language solution, having completed the hardware solution last year, and the (system) software the year before that.

        Ten years ago, I found I had to stay at home to mind kids while my partner, a successful lawyer, pursued her (our) financial security. Therefore, if I was going to discover something basic, real and hopefully amazing, I was never going to have a better opportunity. My main quality that counts is my lateral thinking ability. I have the unconventional mindset AND the intellectual energy to pursue alternative models of cognition.

        I found the biggest problems to progress in this field were unnecessary - introduced by so-called gurus of the field, like Fodor. His analysis of symbol computation systems is fundamentally flawed.

        I have read many crazy things on the Internet that sound pretty much as I do now. I also know that a proportion of readers will always regard transhumanist pronouncements like this one with a jaundiced eye. All I ask is that you read my website, and suspend judgement until you have read and understood my work, and its main ideas. Www.tde-r.webs.com
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          Jun 19 2013: Thanks Miro - I had a quick look at your website (way over my head) I was very much struck by the theory that memory and consciousness are in fact the same - it rings so true!

          So, am I right in thinking that your work is theoretical? Is there anyone out there trying to make a computer based on your findings?
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          Jun 20 2013: I too have perused your provided link Miro and wonder like Douglas, whether it is in theory, or if it is something that you are in the process of initiating. Given the recent timelines, I am more inclined to think that it is still very much in its development stage and that you are on the verge of making it a reality : D

          It was late when I started reading thru it and I could see that you have invested an enormous amount of well thought thru intelligent and analytical analysis that clearly you have researched to an extraordinarly high standard.

          I liked how your approach, instead of standing on the shoulders of giants to develop your idea, you took a more fundamental approach (at the beginning/earlier stage) so that you were standing next to them and thereby able to see what they appear to have overlooked. Specifically the looping of information back into the program.

          I also found your point along the lines that people in the business of making computers are in the business of making money and so as such would not be inclined to develop another type of business.

          I am not suprised that there is a level of difficulty in grasping all that you have put up by way of your work, because I would expect to create a computer capable of thinking for itself, then it just has to be a very involved process.

          That said, if you are right in your findings, what are you doing with them? How are you setting about with a proof of concept? Importantly too, if you want to patent things, they must never have been published and so there are also legal considerations, as no doubt, an invention of this magnitude would literally be worth Billions! Oh just re-read your post, lol, your wife is a lawyer!

          Personally, I think you might be onto something and if Douglas doesn't mind and if you are happy too as well (in light of what I said about IP, $,etc), then I would love to run over your findings here via this AI aligned post and discuss it more!

          P.S I checked translator, thanks D !
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          Jun 21 2013: You are not the only one approaching the problem in this manner. The new term is "AGI."

          Ben Goertzel is a frequent contributor to TED comments. One can find his comments at the Sheldrake controversy blog. He is working on "OpenCog."

          http://wp.goertzel.org/
          http://wp.goertzel.org/?page_id=219
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      Jun 18 2013: Time traveller - May I suggest the benevolent AI : Google translate

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