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Bernard White

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In TED do we really give "thumbs up" when it is "argued well"? Or do we give "Thumbs up" when "we agree with it"?

I say this, because many people often argue their points very well. Even if I don't necessarily agree with them. How reliable is the "Thumb up" system?

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    Jun 13 2013: Normally when I agree. Why encourage a good argument if you think it's wrong?

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      Jun 13 2013: wait. it is impossible that you agree something that is well argued?? :)
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        Jun 13 2013: Oh....I just realized what Peter said....you are right.
        I should have read more carefully.
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        Jun 13 2013: Is there not such a thing as well-argued error? Just because an opinion is well-argued does not mean its conclusion is valid. For example: "Sacrificing one's own best immediate interest for the betterment of another will probably result in some personal loss." That's well argued, but it sucks as a philosophy of life and I wouldn't give it a thumbs up.
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          Jun 14 2013: Ed, I have understood, I think? what the three of you have said.

          But I get the feeling that Peter means that he will 'never' thumb up someone with a good argument, whe he disagrees with it......in order not to encourage it. And then, I think that is why Krisztian asks the question "it is impossible?"
          I wish Peter would come back and clarify.

          I have thumbed up good arguments/reasonings that I disagree with, because it sounds convincing, and the person has truly shown insight in the matter. Of course, by the same token I have refrained from thumbing up others as well.

          Arghh.......perceptions of words.....

          If you can help me make heads or tails of this I'd appreciate it.
          Otherwise, I hope Peter helps.
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          Jun 14 2013: i was kidding of course. you can read peter's comment as if he separated comments to agreed and well argued categories.
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        Jun 14 2013: Krisztián,
        I enjoy your sense of humor, which I perceived your comment to be...LOL:>)

        Mary,
        How about simply looking at Peter's comment, without analyzing? It's really a very simple statement:>)
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          Jun 14 2013: Hi Mary,
          Sorry for the confusion, but I think the rest understood ok. A car salesman can be a very persuasive character, but if his car is a duffer then you wouldn't buy it, no matter how eloquent. Or a Rolls Royce salesman may be an oaf, but you may buy his car; assuming you are very rich.
          I would save my thumbs up for an eloquent R R salesman. He has made a professional job of explaining the truth. From my perspective, of course. It is my thumb after all.

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        Jun 14 2013: Krisztian thanks.
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      Jun 13 2013: I read your comment several times Peter, and it makes perfect sense. Yes Edward, there can be a well argued error. Good debaters do that all the time!
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      Jun 14 2013: "Why encourage a good argument if you think it's wrong?"

      A new perspective. If it doesn't get me to change my mind, then I get the chance to counter with more personalized reasoning. Another chance to win them over. The whole point of debating.

      Having more people with more viewpoints helps to refine an idea. So rather than having a just your starting viewpoint : x is good
      you can end up with
      the reason x is good is because y
      So in z situation the reason is no longer valid, therefore x is moot
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        Jun 14 2013: Manishka, thanks for this explanation of x.y and z.

        "Having more people with more viewpoints helps to refine an idea."
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      Jun 14 2013: Peter, thanks for chiming in.

      You know, I understood what you said, and I gave you a thumbs up for it when you posted it.
      I also realize that Krisztian uses alot of humor in his short answers. But since he posed it in the form of a question, I was kind of waiting for a reply from you.

      I guess it was a rhetorical question.

      I don't really like to assume, that is why I asked.

      I think Ed's comment in addition to yours and Krisztian's short-circuited a fuse somewhere up in my mind.
      Oh wait....I think I had not had coffee yet......Aha.....now I know what went wrong.
      Well, that'll teach me a lesson. LOL

      :) Thumb Away Peter......or not, after all it is your thumb ;)

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