Alessandra Bosco

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When do we loose our purity of thought as children and loose our spontaneity under layers and layers of over-thinking?

I hope I made myself clear despite my English.

  • Jun 12 2013: I don't know that we do. It is the over-analysis and the internal checking of our thoughts that causes us issues. I feel it is till there, just hindered by the internal monitoring system we build up which forces us to ask ourselves "Is this right?"
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      Jun 12 2013: I agree with you. It is clearly still there, hiding somewhere, and what I am asking myself is how to bring it back to light.
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    Jun 14 2013: Your English is fine Alessandra :)
    But what is this purity of thought? Human mind can be in many states like say, feeling, reflection, imagination, realization, contemplation, introspection etc. Why is your emphasis on thinking?
    I am asking because I am not getting what you mean.
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    Jun 13 2013: I don't think I had exceptional purity of thought as a child. I pretty much thought the same way I do now, although I'm more educated now. I was not terribly spontaneous as a child, I'm about the same now at age 53. Apparently these have changed for you?

    I'm not a very inhibited person, I'm always willing to play a role, or do unusual things, or talk about unusual subjects. Sometimes I have worked as an actor in TV and movies, which might be proof that I'm not too inhibited. How about you, Alessandra, are you inhibited? Are you comfortable dancing, or acting silly? Are you willing to ask unusual questions that not everyone is asking? Or talk about unusual subjects? Lately I've been talking a lot about tongue exercises, why it might be useful to exercise your tongue. If an unusual interest like that came to you, would you be willing to talk about it?
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    Jun 12 2013: As soon as 'education' starts and we are told what to think by government stooges, rather than how to think by teachers.

    Your English is fine Alessandra. Just a minor point: It is 'lose' - not 'loose'.
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      Jun 12 2013: I know, but I still believe that there must be a way for real educators -from latin "educere" which means: bring out (here's the whole point)- to be the majority and no more "dangerous" people to leave behind. Must that correspond with a whole social change or is it possible as a form of life resistance?

      (Martha Nussbaum has very interesting theories about this).
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    Jun 16 2013: it varies for everyone but it usually comes about as life experience leads us to replace ideals with reality. some people call it growing up.

    spontaneity is over-rated
  • Jun 16 2013: A lot of it depends on your parents and how their thinking is, but I would say as soon as you enter the world. As soon as you are born the indoctrination process begins. Whatever it may be. The views of the world around you are imediately thrust upon you. It's just the way society is. How you process information around you and settle on views is mostly determined ( at first ) by the tools you are given in the beginning of your life.
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    Jun 14 2013: maybe you should take an acting class, alessandra, it helps you lose some inhibition, show your emotions, break down some of your inner walls
  • Jun 13 2013: My advice, Alessandra, would be to hang around kids more often!

    Actually, this question came up in my mind too recently. We grown-ups are so aware of the consequences of our actions, and making a mistake (did you see the "Why are we afraid to make mistakes" convo?
    http://www.ted.com/conversations/18660/why_are_we_afraid_to_make_mist.html
    I think this plays a big role in our 'lack' of spontinaety. We're concerned about how we come across to others, and the effect of our actions on the long term, while children are more concerned with themselves, and live in the here and now.

    I found Mindfullness a great way to reconnect with myself, and live in the here and now. A little like meditation, I took time for myself to focus on me, and send my breathing to every part of my body. It helped me remember how to appreciate the little things, and enjoy them, and especially to appreciate living right NOW, this very second. Once I could do that, I found that spontinaety had a place in the here and now as well!
  • Jun 12 2013: It is out internal governor that checks our free and open thought. More than anything the question of "right and wrong" hinders our thinking. Or, and probably more important. "what would others think" is a great hinderance. If we just allow ourselves to think and roll with it, we would be in far better shape. Brainstorming and "rabbit trail" type thinking would allow us to be more open and free in our thought. More child-like as it were. It is still hiding there. We just have to allow it to come out.
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    Jun 12 2013: The time started loosing instinct ability of being curious as a child.......
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    Jun 12 2013: I am not sure what you mean by purity of thought. Perhaps the answer is that experience allows us to understand many phenomena as complex, while children would stop at a simple explanation that works well enough for their needs. Kids are more likely to think in simple categories, while adults typically come to think that the distinction between good and evil or right and wrong is fuzzier than they may have realized in childhood.

    In terms of spontaneity, some people are more spontaneous as children and others more spontaneous as they get older. Either young people or old people may act or not act on the basis of an exaggerated impression of the risks involved.
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      Jun 12 2013: I might say that the virtualization of reality that begins with language learning could be the starting point (potentially, at least, because as you say some people get more spontaneous (or stay spontaneous) growing older.
      With "purity" of thought I meant thought -> action without intermission of wondering wether it is wrong or right, acceptable or not, and so on. I think that the passage to complex thought could be the right explanation.
      So, how to maintain a sort of spontaneity with the others and be true with ourselves? Sometimes I feel so stuck in my thinking that I am unable to feel.
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        Jun 12 2013: I have never experienced the problem you are sharing of being unable to feel. Could you find an opportunity to volunteer somewhere with people who feel and promote feeling in you? Working or living with animals may also help.

        Depending on how extreme this challenge is for you, you might want to check whether you are suffering a clinical depression. Being unable to feel is, I think, a sign of depression.