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Kareem Fahim

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Are you comfortable with NSA collecting your personal data?

'Top secret PRISM program claims direct access to servers of firms including Google, Facebook and Apple'

The National Security Agency has obtained direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants, according to a top secret document obtained by the Guardian.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data

Well, all of us already knew so I don't think it has surprised anyone... but I'd like to know opinions of TED community, are you comfortable with fact that USA Gov. is continuously collecting your personal data?

@People who say 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oAKtBpdZSw

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Majority of people are annoyed by this 'data collection'. Western Govs., defenders of 'freedom' 'democracy' and 'input_word' are mere bunch of hypocrites. Although it is shocking how some people are defending NSA and these faceless entities... (maybe they are 'trolls' or NSA paid users...).

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    • Jun 14 2013: The meaning is they dont want him to fly to the uk and will fine any airline that takes him there, basically they dont want those cost of him being there and fighting extradition charges to the uk, which the government of the uk would have to pay for. (eg like assange has cost the government)

      Since the cost for doing it, to the airline is 2000 pounds, whereas the cost of defending his rights might run the uk government 2million, it does not seem much of a deterrent.

      But since they've put the word out early, they can pretty much be sure that airlines wont take him there, faring they may lose slots or some other sanction.
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        • Jun 14 2013: Juan, actually he could claim political asylum if he landed in the UK, that's what they don't want, and why they are doing this.

          And if he claimed that, they wouldn't be legally allowed to just 'put him on a plane to the us', if very similar to the Assange appeal case (who is also not a UK citizen), and his extradition.

          All the UK is doing right now, is putting the airlines on notice, dont bring him here. Personally I don't think they want anything to do with him, or the trouble it may cause. Nor have the Americans on their back, screaming extradite, extradite, but where the UK public dont see it that way. I think one case is enough for them. And they seem to have learned that lesson. -- (in fact two cases - The UK citizen the US want extradited for bypassing Nasa servers secuity or lack of. The US don't want for a UK trial for UK citizen, because the UK wont crucify him like the US will.

          Also I dont think (this is a joke) there is enough room in the Ecuadorian embassy for him :)

          I can see these possible outcomes, one the US get someone to do their dirty work and kill him, which was smart he named himself, as anonymity was not in his best interests. Or it ends up in a long protracted case. Or the Chinese just say - leave. Or it ends up an a stale mate - and in a few months later - when everyone has moved on and forgotten this - he accidentally falls down the 100 or so flights of stairs at the his hotel and is found with a broken neck. Which will get one line of coverage in the local hong kong paper, and that'll be that.

          If I was him, I'd be phoning/emailing around to see whom I could trust and what countries would be friendly, otherwise circumstances have a habit of overtaking you.


          Thanks for your comments about Nelson, the world could surely do with more leaders like him.

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